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B-Blue 12-08-2010 10:45 AM

Fit 2nd in sales in the B-segment war
 
  • Nissan Versa 6,724
  • Honda Fit 4,180
  • Hyundai Accent: 4,052
  • Ford Fiesta: 3,473
  • Chevy Aveo: 3,262
  • Toyota Yaris: 2,154
  • Suzuki SX4: 1,140
  • Kia Rio: 966
  • Scion xD: 810
  • Mazda2: 462
via cars.com

All though it's good that our Fit is in second, it's trailing the Versa by quite a bit. You'd think will all the extensive marketing Ford has done with the Fiesta they would of sold more. It looks like the heavily incentive Focus is stealing all of the Fiesta's thunder. When people see they can get more of a car (even if it's riding on a 10+ year chassis) for less, money talks. Feel sorry for the poor little Mazda2.

(Oh and please, no fanboi talking with crap like 'Ford sucks blah blah blah', you'll look like a moron.)

circa40 12-08-2010 11:40 AM

Wow, I didnt know the Versa is that popular.

ThEvil0nE 12-08-2010 11:44 AM

sad to see the SX4 down on the list... it's such an underated car...

keifla123 12-08-2010 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by circa40 (Post 939868)
Wow, I didnt know the Versa is that popular.

The base model with no options sells for less than $10k so that is probably a big reason why it is so popular.

kenchan 12-08-2010 12:23 PM

price.

have to remember over 95% (no scienfitic data) of folks that lease/buy these cars are poor.

thefit09 12-08-2010 12:25 PM

Ford sucks, blah blah blah.

Vanct 12-08-2010 12:40 PM

Not gonna lie...seeing the Fiesta fail brings a smile to my face. It's barely doing better than the Aveo. At least Ford is moving in the right direction, though.

hayden 12-08-2010 01:05 PM

Guys, the Versa comes in 6 packages with 2 engines. It also comes as a sedan or a hatch model, and ranges in price from $9,990-16,470. As far as I'm concerned, the Fit is the king.

hayden 12-08-2010 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by ThEvil0nE (Post 939869)
sad to see the SX4 down on the list... it's such an underated car...

No dealerships...

Uncle Gary 12-08-2010 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Vanct (Post 939902)
Not gonna lie...seeing the Fiesta fail brings a smile to my face. It's barely doing better than the Aveo. At least Ford is moving in the right direction, though.

I'm not smiling, because it will just confirm to Ford management what American car makers have always said: "Americans don't want small, fuel efficient cars".

hayden 12-08-2010 02:18 PM

Fuel's actual projected cost is information that costs quite a bit of money to these companies, and furthermore, the economic forecasts they based model development on, which if evidence by the onslaught of small cars a few years back (like when the GD was released) were right on about the economy. There is something to it, or Fiat wouldn't be arriving with the 500, and Smart would have stayed out of the US market, even though it hasn't worked out amazingly well for them. I bet they stay regardless. It's just a matter of getting their current models over here at a profitable rate and that has little to do with the actual car, and more to do with how they can get their existing products to be more profitable than other products. Small cars are the most risky, even though I think people would enjoy them more if the companies pushed the concept here - but - why would they? Corporations will always go for the most money they can based on the market they have available to them. You want small cars? Then you want an overly expensive cost of living, high taxes, or no space to roam around and live in. Consider that...

edit: wanted to add that fuel costs are not the whole picture. It's really more about economic conditions. Buying a fuel efficient car still saves you money on gas, and likely insurance, which just gives you more money in your pocket. It's when fuel costs rise that people see more of the direct impact of economic interdependency, rather than it being hidden behind a more indirect system that results in things like unemployment -- which might even be related to the high fuel costs that could have potentially put a few people out of the range for being able to pay their mortgage every month a few years ago, and started a downward spiral we could see. The imbalances show up in different areas at any given time. Fuel costs rising feels like an imposition and that's why you hear so much about it.

B-Blue 12-08-2010 02:32 PM

Here in SoCal gas prices have gone up by more then 10¢ in the last week. I can only imagine what they'll be next year. Glad I got my little GE with me.

kenchan 12-08-2010 04:52 PM

yep, same here. i pumped gas yesterday into my GD and noticed that it was up about 8-9 cents since a week or so ago. but only $3.10 which is considerably lower than in the city...

doctordoom 12-08-2010 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by hayden (Post 939916)
Guys, the Versa comes in 6 packages with 2 engines. It also comes as a sedan or a hatch model, and ranges in price from $9,990-16,470. As far as I'm concerned, the Fit is the king.

wow you make a very good point

Occam 12-09-2010 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by B-Blue (Post 939850)
  • Nissan Versa 6,724 - 95 cu-ft
  • Honda Fit 4,180 - 91 cu ft
  • Hyundai Accent: 4,052 - 92 cu ft
  • Ford Fiesta: 3,473 -85.1 cu ft
  • Chevy Aveo: 3,262 - 91
  • Toyota Yaris: 2,154 - 87.1
  • Suzuki SX4: 1,140 - 89 cu ft
  • Kia Rio: 966 - 92 cu ft
  • Scion xD: 810 - 84 cu ft
  • Mazda2: 462 - 87 - cu ft

The Rio and Accent are basically twins, so they would put the Fit in 3rd if measured together. It would appear that overall, even in a class where size doesn't sell, size sells.

(if you've ever been in a versa, it doesn't feel like a small car on the inside)

EpilepticFit 12-09-2010 05:40 PM

yo occam, is that interior space, or cargo space?
I hope the ford, and mazda go to (nearly) the top. They are much better looking and better to drive than all but one of the cars on the list. People will convert.

You can hardly expect a brand new product (with little cash incentives) to overtake established ones. I would also suspect that Ford and Mazda are keeping supply down slightly to increase demand. It was very difficult to find the right Fit on the lot when I was in the market for one. It would have been much easier to buy a Civic for example.

Many people (NOT on this forum) are kinda clueless when it comes to car buying and consumption in general. People want more than they can chew off and the banks and credit card companies have made it easy to overspend. This kind of explains many trends and fads alike: eg. SUVs, boy bands, star tattoos, pet rocks, riced up cars, etc.
I'll admit I used to like that band with fred durst in it. Never bought a cd so ultimately harmless (except for the embarrassment).

Thanks for bringing it to our attention B-Blue!

Occam 12-09-2010 08:56 PM

That's passenger volume. This time with both:

Thank's B-Blue for posting the full list, by the way.

Passenger volume + cargo volume = total interior volume.

Originally Posted by B-Blue (Post 939850)
  • Nissan Versa 6,724 - 95+17=112
  • Honda Fit 4,180 - 91+2=112
  • Hyundai Accent: 4,052 - 92+16=108
  • Ford Fiesta: 3,473 -85+15=100
  • Chevy Aveo: 3,262 - 91+7=98[
  • Toyota Yaris: 2,154 - 87+9=96
  • Suzuki SX4: 1,140 - 89+9=98
  • Kia Rio: 966 - 92+16=108
  • Scion xD: 810 - 84+11=95
  • Mazda2: 462 - 87/13 = 100


belfastcowboy 12-14-2010 12:59 PM

i like ford but the fiesta is a POS

surprised to see scion xD so low down there

hayden 12-14-2010 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by belfastcowboy (Post 941712)
i like ford but the fiesta is a POS

surprised to see scion xD so low down there

You know, I kind of am too. Neat cars, but I think the fuel economy isn't that great. They've gotten quite large too, which isn't a bad thing. Reminds me of the Element a little bit, in that it's quirky, heavy, and mostly held back by it's fuel economy, but has a cult following.

Occam 12-14-2010 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by hayden (Post 941721)
You know, I kind of am too. Neat cars, but I think the fuel economy isn't that great. They've gotten quite large too, which isn't a bad thing. Reminds me of the Element a little bit, in that it's quirky, heavy, and mostly held back by it's fuel economy, but has a cult following.

The xD is still a small, Yaris based vehicle. The xB has gotten much larger though, and is closer in size to the Element.


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