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phenoyz 01-31-2013 03:01 PM

4x100 vs. 4x114
 
Is it safe to put a Wheel with Bolt Pattern of 4x100 to a car with 4x114 bolt pattern?
Thanks

jazzhands68 01-31-2013 03:19 PM

not unsafe, just impossible. bolt holes wont line up and you wont be able to mount them.

DiamondStarMonsters 01-31-2013 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1160668)
Is it safe to put a Wheel with Bolt Pattern of 4x100 to a car with 4x114 bolt pattern?
Thanks

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Wanderer. 01-31-2013 04:37 PM

No but you CAN have the wheels redrilled or use adapters. Keep in mind if you use adapters it's going to change the offset.

phenoyz 01-31-2013 07:14 PM

another question:

GE8 Honda Fit's RPM is really high can this be adjusted? anything to lower its rpm
(its gearing ratio?)

high rpm might be why honda fit's mpg is not great...

MNfit 02-01-2013 03:42 PM

:iough:g............................

Black3sr 02-01-2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1160732)
another question:

GE8 Honda Fit's RPM is really high can this be adjusted? anything to lower its rpm
(its gearing ratio?)

high rpm might be why honda fit's mpg is not great...

It is an easy fix. Just don't push the gas pedal down so far.

DreaMv 02-01-2013 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1160732)
another question:

GE8 Honda Fit's RPM is really high can this be adjusted? anything to lower its rpm
(its gearing ratio?)

high rpm might be why honda fit's mpg is not great...


drive like a normal person and dont push the pedal to the metal everywhere!

phenoyz 02-01-2013 10:25 PM

No sensible replies ....I dont drive HARD !!!!! this is my suppose to be DD-gas saver car !!!!!bought this to SAVE GAS not RACE IT !!!!!

that very old junk looking company car a 2000 Nissan Altima GXE, revs at 2300 rpm at 60 mph
while the fit revs at 3000rpm.
At 80 mph the nissan revs at 3200 RPM...and it has 254,000 miles !!!!
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

That OLD 2000 Nissan Altima GXE (automatic) is like a HYBRID !!!!!
at first I thought the gasoline gauge was not working , that needle almost never moves, it almost never eats gas--- BUT UNFORTUNATELY it WORKS !!!!

I WISH Honda Fit's RPM can be adjusted !!!!!

(and i drive that Nissan HARD---80-100 mph, not my car its the company's !!!)



The only way i can get a good mpg with the Honda Fit is to drive between 60-65mph always air condition OFF...(highway)

turn on A/C and drive above 70 mph your mpg will suck

*I use premium full synthetic eneos 0w-20 (sustina)*


Definitely not a Nissan person but they got it right.....

phenoyz 02-01-2013 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by RichXKU (Post 220459)
Final drive...
lower final drive ratio: longer gears, overall lower RPM, higher top speed. Better cruising fuel economy
higher final drive ratio: shortens gears, overall higher RPM, lower top speed, worse cruising fuel economy.
The 5MTs are considered to have a way too high final drive compared to other small cars, so you have to stick to 60-65 or fuel economy takes a hit.

ligher flywheel and underdrive pulleys let the engine rev more freely

LSD was pretty self explanatory, but wouldnt affect performance, just handling and cornering grip.


https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/gene...ios-chart.html

This is the guy who knows what he's saying too bad he doesn't post here anymore....

mkane 02-01-2013 11:02 PM

Taller tires is an option. We get our best mileage @ 65 also. Hate being passed, usually end up around 34mpg, lot's better than the 18mpg the truck gets.

phenoyz 02-01-2013 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by mkane (Post 1161005)
Taller tires is an option. We get our best mileage @ 65 also. Hate being passed, usually end up around 34mpg, lot's better than the 18mpg the truck gets.

i am using 15x7 enkei rpf-1 with 195/55 tires
(i've also taken the rear seats off to make the Fit as light as possible)

with the Honda's small engine compared to that Nissan Altima, the Fit
should have a significantly higher mpg !!!

and that nissan is also a VERY heavy 4 door sedan, and i don't know or nobody knows who is maintaining that .

i just drive it...but still it drives like a HYBRID and the ENGINE is still strong!!! --- 254,000 miles (it actually also drives smooth)
also found out today theres no water in the fucking coolant!!! lucky it didn't over heat as i've been
driving it for a week already like that...

i drive that Nissan 310 miles / day from las vegas to pahrump then to arizona....then back to vegas

DiamondStarMonsters 02-02-2013 01:14 AM

Well that escalated quickly.

:lock:

mike410b 02-02-2013 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1161006)
i am using 15x7 enkei rpf-1 with 195/55 tires
(i've also taken the rear seats off to make the Fit as light as possible)

So you've been part of the cause of the high revs. 195/55/15 is shorter than stock for a GE.

with the Honda's small engine compared to that Nissan Altima, the Fit
should have a significantly higher mpg !!!

You know the Fit is a tall people/stuff carrier, right?

and that nissan is also a VERY heavy 4 door sedan, and i don't know or nobody knows who is maintaining that shit..the owner of the company also don't give shit...

Your 14 year old Nissan weighs 28-3k lbs. That's a relatively light car by today's standards.

i just drive it...but still it drives like a HYBRID and the ENGINE is still strong!!! --- 254,000 miles (it actually also drives smooth)
also found out today theres no water in the fucking coolant!!! lucky it didn't over heat as i've been
driving it for a week already like that...

In what way does it drive like a hybrid? I've driven Prii/Insights and outside of regenerative braking, found them startlingly normal. Good job caring for your car >_>

i drive that Nissan 310 miles / day from las vegas to pahrump then to arizona....then back to vegas

BTW, you never said what you were getting for MPG in either car.

sr.sedan 02-02-2013 03:09 AM

May be this pinoy drive in the fuckin city that why he doesnt see the great gas mileage that the fit get and also its nothe way you step on the gas its also the way you brake

Wanderer. 02-02-2013 09:44 AM

2000 Nissan Altima: 18mpg city 26mpg highway rated.

Most online stats agree:
2000 Nissan Altima MPG Reports | Fuelly

It does have a 16 gallon tank, so maybe that's why you think it gets better gas mileage? You know the Fit has a tiny 10 gallon tank right? I can go further in my wife's Chrysler than the Fit but it has a giant gas tank, it definitely doesn't get better gas mileage.

In all this complaining you have yet to say what your gas mileage was on the Altima, if you say 35mpg i'm sorry but i'm going to have to raise the BS flag.

phenoyz 02-02-2013 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by sr.sedan (Post 1161035)
May be this pinoy drive in the fuckin city that why he doesnt see the great gas mileage that the fit get and also its nothe way you step on the gas its also the way you brake

What the hell you saying you step on gas the way you brake !!! READ !!!

I drive as conservatively as possible on the Fit to get good mpg

Did you READ what I said.. I only get good mpg on the Fit if I drive
between 60-65 mph (highway) A/C OFF!!!


In the city stop and go the Fit mpg definitely sucks especially with A/C turned on !!!
With this small engine the Fit should also get good mpg in the city but it doesn't!!!!

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@ Wanderer I am speaking on personal experience, that 2000 Nissan Altima GXE drives like a hybrid,
No reason to lie...

Dwalbert320 02-02-2013 12:04 PM

Sell your Fit. Crack open a beer. Relax. Move on.

This car isn't for you.

phenoyz 02-02-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Dwalbert320 (Post 1161088)
Sell your Fit. Crack open a beer. Relax. Move on.
This car isn't for you.

I love how it drives! I love its cargo space capacity! although mpg isn't STELLAR...

mike410b 02-02-2013 03:51 PM

I see you ignored my post, I'll once again ask:

What sort of fuel economy do you see in each car?
In what way does the Altima drive like a hybrid? I'm assuming you've never driven one before.
You've raised the effective gear ratios of the car by putting smaller than stock tires on.
Braking has a massive role in fuel economy, it sounds like you fail to realize this.


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