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blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 12:10 PM

BlackNDecker's "mini-Mugen" build thread
 
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I've posted this on several other sites but figured I share some pics here as well.

The car started out as a perfectly mundane 2001 civic grocery-getter:
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Of course it didn't stay that way. Thousands of man-hours and disposable dollars later...the car is getting completely overhauled. Better, stronger, faster...oh and a K24 swap:
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blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 12:13 PM

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These 2 pics show just how far the car has come over the past year:
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sandblasted Jul 3, 2011 12:15 PM

need to be MOAR LOW! lol. all seriousness tho....WOW! thats gonna be wicked when you get it finished. awesome!

blackwagon Jul 3, 2011 12:17 PM

Looks like a lot of disposable money going on. I like.

blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 12:21 PM

Thanks man!

Yeah, there is some wicked wheel well gap...but, the car is still stripped so the springs haven't settled.

The entire chassis has been converted to RSX type S: 5-lug, lower control arms, and all knuckle bushings have been replaced with Energy Suspension polyurethane. The shocks themselves are brand new OEM A-Spec for the 05-06 RSX. They have a conservative drop of ~1" and are rumored to be the same as the Type R suspesion. Eventually I will swap the "innards" for Koni race struts up front and get custom coilovers in the rear...but I want to get the car up and running first.

The only problem with this chassis (includes RSX, EP3, EM2, and ES1) is that if you go too low you will compromise handling due to the flawed McPherson strut design. So this car will unfortunately always have some degree of wheel gap --> Function > Form.

blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by blackwagon (Post 1009424)
Looks like a lot of disposable money going on. I like.

Thanks man! I can't wait till it's finished...I'm going to terrorize the local ricers!

blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 12:24 PM

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It's getting a 2005 Acura EL rear end swap as well:
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TurboManGT Jul 3, 2011 12:33 PM

Nice keep us updated. I love the engine bay color and motor!!

j1nNju1c3 Jul 3, 2011 12:49 PM

Subscribed! I love build threads like this

blackndecker Jul 3, 2011 01:08 PM

Thanks fellas!

The actual build thread is in my sig...I just thought I'd share some pics here on FitFreak. Lots of custom one-off parts in progress...including carbon fiber dash overlay (thanks to Rogue7), the front splitter I fabricated from scratch, and a diffuser I'm making for the rear bumper.

TurboManGT Jul 3, 2011 02:02 PM

Where you at in MN?

blackndecker Jul 4, 2011 01:41 AM

Med City



10 char

Kittengolf Jul 4, 2011 04:30 AM

Outstanding build. Truly epic. Great work bro.

SSMTEN Jul 4, 2011 12:52 PM

B&D, when i first saw this build, i really didnt like it. guess i had no vision, because now seeing the progress you've made and the semi-end product...im very impressed. +rep

blackndecker Jul 4, 2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by SSMTEN (Post 1009726)
B&D, when i first saw this build, i really didnt like it. guess i had no vision, because now seeing the progress you've made and the semi-end product...im very impressed. +rep

Thanks man! I have a good eye for form and design...I knew it would all come together eventually. The thing is...if you're really pushing the boundaries then there will be people who either don't understand or don't like what you're doing. I haven't used anybody else's car for inspiration and I think that is why this build is really unique. Not to mention lots of one-off parts that I am making myself.

blackndecker Jul 4, 2011 04:06 PM

Here are some pics of the custom lip and custom rear diffuser...this is cut and pasted from another forum:



Originally Posted by BlackNDecker
I've been looking for some aero bits for my civic build and unfortunately there really aren't any functional pieces for our cars. So...I'm making my own.

I made a tracing of the bumper and then extended the area slightly all around till I came up with an overall shape that I liked. I just made a template out of cardboard (no pics).

Then I traced the design on to a piece of REALLY flat wood and cut it out with a jig saw:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/857b42d6.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/a0ba63c8.jpg



Then I covered it with aluminum foil and painter's tape so the fiberglass won't stick to the wood:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/4feb7b95.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/a6b630d8.jpg



Then I ran out of blue and had to finish the last little bit with yellow painter's tape:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/19952fcb.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/a03b625b.jpg



Then I laid down the first two layers of fiberglass cloth and resin:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/21b85ce5.jpg



This will dry overnight then I'll sand it and lay down two more layers. I am also going to mold in a lip to mount to the bumper. The bottom of the splitter will extend the length of the bumper and will be ADJUSTABLE. More to come...



I got the splitter sanded and removed it from the wooden template. I have some more pics showing step-by-step but my iPhone died. I'll post them when it's charged.

So the splitter will look like this under the bumper. I'm going to mold the bumper so that it transitions smoothly to the splitter. I want to incorporate a Type R lip as the transition:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/Splitter.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x.../splitter1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...litterside.jpg



And this pic shows how far back the splitter extends:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...litterrear.jpg



Some more progress. Got the bumper and splitter all taped up:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...head/tape1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...head/tape2.jpg



Here is a shot of the mounting...I used the holes already in the bumper:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ead/bolts1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ead/bolts2.jpg



And getting foamy with the Great Stuff. This is the basic form...it still needs some shaping, but you can see that the splitter really doesn't stick out that much once a lip is installed:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ad/foam1-1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ad/foam2-1.jpg



Coming along nicely...
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ead/shape2.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ead/shape1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...ead/shape3.jpg



Decided to scrap the foam...it was too difficult to shape it. So on to the revision:

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/revised1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/revised2.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/revised3.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/revised4.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/revised5.jpg



Made some progress over the weekend:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...dsplitter1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...dsplitter3.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...dsplitter2.jpg



I got the splitter all finished:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...itterdone2.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...itterdone5.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...itterdone1.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...itterdone4.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...itterdone3.jpg



Started working on the rear diffuser...
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/b55a8577.jpg



This is not the final shape...I will continue to shape it:
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/e698a7ea.jpg



http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...d/9aeb7b63.jpg



I'm going for something similar to this:

http://www.wrxtuners.com/forums/atta...470566_690.jpg


TurboManGT Jul 4, 2011 05:45 PM

I like how the front turned out and the rear should look sexy with a diffuser like that.

555sexydrive Jul 4, 2011 11:02 PM

For the front sussy, you just need to get some inverted tie-ends. On my 5R Teggy with the Toda sussy all around, I had some inverted tie-ends that allowed the front tie rods to sit in a more horizontal position and I was lowered approximately 50mm from stock height. Prior to this I had SWIFT SportMach's on the stock sussy and lowering was about 20~25mm and the tie rods were angled up some, but not to the point where handling was compromised.

Just something to look into. ;) As well as getting some sort of adjustable camber/toe front and rear. I had purchased new front knuckles with J's RCAs installed and J's rear adjustable arms.

Looking very nice indeed and awesome fiber work, though I wouldn't of expected any less after what you churned out with the door mirrors.

mike410b Jul 4, 2011 11:49 PM

Hmm I have to subscribe to this as it looks like I'm about to buy an EP3

^Going to look into what you posted to.

Being in WI....B&D I NEED to see this car

blackndecker Jul 5, 2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 555sexydrive (Post 1009855)
For the front sussy, you just need to get some inverted tie-ends. On my 5R Teggy with the Toda sussy all around, I had some inverted tie-ends that allowed the front tie rods to sit in a more horizontal position and I was lowered approximately 50mm from stock height. Prior to this I had SWIFT SportMach's on the stock sussy and lowering was about 20~25mm and the tie rods were angled up some, but not to the point where handling was compromised.

Just something to look into. ;)

I don't plan to drop the car beyond 1" (wheel gap is not a big concern to me at the moment). The only other suspension I would consider would be the Koni 8610 race struts with custom spring rates. If I do lower the car beyond 1-1.5", I'll probably get the Buddy Club RCAs to fix the angle of the front lower control arms.

Re: adjustable camber/toe front and rear...this is a MUST on this chassis. Unfortunately the options are limited. I'll probably pick up the Hotchkis camber plates (these are good for about 3* camber and 1* caster).


Originally Posted by 555sexydrive (Post 1009855)
Looking very nice indeed and awesome fiber work, though I wouldn't of expected any less after what you churned out with the door mirrors.

Thanks man! But, the carbon fiber work on the side mirrors was the work of JDP!


I am getting some carbon fiber work on the interior by none other than Rogue 7. Here are some teaser pics:
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