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cjecpa 10-20-2013 01:53 PM

VTEC Mini (Austin not BMW)
 
Usually a car enters my mind so I research it out of interest, was watching the remake of the "Italian Job". They used the new Mini but also had a original so I was looking at it then I wonder if people are doing engine swaps due to the age and reliability. I came across people doing a VTEC swap so you may of seen this before.

Mini TEC VTEC Mini

Just when you thought it was safe to buy a Mini.


Once upon a time when the mountains were young, import-car buyers were avant-garde. These half-mad radicals thought nothing of trading in a perfectly good De Soto Firesweep for --whoa!--an English car! They craved something quirky and agile like a Morris Minor or Hillman Minx that worked. Worked! Started every morning. Lasted decades. Sold for cheap.
Of course, you nod, they wanted a BMC Mini, but engineered by Honda.
And 40-plus years later, Mini Tec of Royston, Georgia, offers just that--a rorty 220-hp Honda VTEC four-cylinder engine mashed into an original Mini. The real BMC Mini. Two of these wee paperweights parked together look like a pair of dice. Mini Tec will sell you a couple--or just one--then run for the tall brush. They aren't afraid the car won't work; they're afraid it will.
The original Mini's charisma is so legendary that BMW gambled mega-millions--successfully--on its resurrection in 2001. But compared with the BMC Mini, BMW's version is a Peterbilt. The impossibly "cute" 1959 Mini designed by Sir Alec Issigonis still provokes helpless smiling. Among enthusiasts, ownership remains contagious; the minute one Issigonis Mini appears, the entire neighborhood must be dusted with flea-and-tick powder.
You're right, that's pure hyperbole. But with Minis, hyperbole is just good reporting. Add a dose of violent VTEC performance, and whoppers are automatic. The Mini Tec VTEC is one of the fastest, and, um, furious-est, drives south of a Z06. Just look at the numbers from the one we tested-1792 pounds and a claimed 220 horsepower. The Honda engine was originally for the Acura Integra Type R and was rated for 195 horsepower. But Mini Tec says better-breathing intake and exhaust systems add 25 ponies, and despite copious amounts of wheelspin, the VTEC Mini still scooted to 60 mph in 5.0 seconds.
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But sliding a 21st-century VTEC into this Bronze Age Mini takes more than shoehorns and grease. Norman Holley, a Clemson graduate engineer, devised his Mini Tec B-series subframe to facilitate the VTEC Mini's Frankenstein-ism. The hood and the front fenders must be stretched forward four inches. (It's not noticeable until you're told it's there; then it looks cryptically cool.) The conversion doesn't change the stock Mini's front-suspension dimensions, welcoming any new or aftermarket Mini wheel. The Honda radiator has room to sit low, with no ugly hood modifications. A standard Mini brake servo and stock upper control arms and uprights combine with the standard Honda distributor and ECU. Camber, caster, and ride height are fully adjustable. Except for its invisible nose extension, the Mini Tec Mini is indistinguishable from a 35-hp '59 Mini.
From the pilot's seat it feels the same, too. If you've never sat in an original Mini, nothing can communicate its utter eensie-ness. But we'll try. One afternoon years ago, our friend John Clark retired from racing in a Mini, for cause. He is an XXL sorta guy, and his racing Mini Cooper S fit him like spandex. He was on the track annoying physics that day, tossing the 80.0-inch wheelbase-- 80 inches!--side to side through the esses at great speed when, suddenly, the car took matters into its own hands. Rolling, leaping, and rolling, it closed in around him like aluminum foil around take-out fried chicken. Unhurt, but shaken and stirred, he was removed surgically and found other pursuits. The point? This little car feels nearly as wide as it is long, decidedly not the formula for high-speed stability--and with a VTEC under its chin, high speed is never far away. A word to the wise.

Accordingly, full-power applications put our test car in a sort of swoon, veering sharply this way or that, depending on the phases of the moon. Acceleration is stupendous, of course. We had no difficulty keeping up with an aggressively driven AMG SL65 in heavy interstate traffic. But then it started to rain. In the wet, throttle applications sent our micro 175/60R-13 Yokohamas sluicing still farther this way or that, ignoring the moon entirely. Exciting.
And the distinctive Mini driving position added spice. The steering wheel was tilted toward horizontal, city-bus style, as befitted the original Mini. And our test car had a bit less caster than the ideal, making for so-so on-center response. Caster settings can be adjusted to suit, and in the dry, uncertain steering feel was merely a distraction. But at speed in the rain, giving the throttle hard bursts to stay with the AMG, we were the world's busiest bus driver.
Not surprisingly, given the age of this silk purse, a little sow's ear is showing. The steering-wheel position, throttle steer, short wheelbase, and tiny wheels all counseled caution—while delivering stellar skidpad numbers, incidentally. That said, this VTEC Mini is surely the definitive pocket rocket. And speaking candidly, Mini Tec allowed that although the customer who ordered our test car demanded the full turn-key $30,000 Type R treatment, milder Honda VTEC's of, say, 170 horsepower (starting at about $19,000 for a complete car) make a far more drivable package. Or if you already have a Mini and a Honda powertrain, you could simply buy the $2500 kit and do the conversion yourself. Sounds right to us.
If you're a guy (or gal) who thinks Vin Diesel is a girly man, this R-car is the Mini for you.
Mini Tec, 426 Dawkins Road, Royston, Georgia 30662; 706-246-0072;www.superfastminis.com. Sold through: GoMini, 5665 Highway 9, Suite 103-262, Alpharetta, Georgia 30004; 404-406-2422;www.gomini.com.


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Sandy. 10-20-2013 05:27 PM

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There are also conversion kits over here to put an engine in the rear of a Mini.

B series are common, but saw this one at a Mini track day Supercharged K20 looked and sounded awesome!

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cjecpa 10-20-2013 05:44 PM

I have seen some use ones for sale in the USA as well as non runners that could be a project car for such a swap. These cars with the swap are going for around $30k.

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Wanderer. 10-20-2013 05:51 PM

I've seen a B series mini in the wild and boy it could scoot. A very unnatural sight lol.

cjecpa 10-20-2013 05:55 PM

Another Mini model with a LT1

1969 Austin America (mini cooper)

Sandy. 10-20-2013 05:56 PM

They would make an interesting project, were my favorite car as a kid and if coupled with a B series engine would be a perfect match.

And for one at that price with a swap doesn't seem too bad to me.

cjecpa 10-20-2013 07:39 PM

Yes, an unique car that would surprise quite a few high performance cars on the road.

The car always looks great modified not a VTEC


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FitStir 10-21-2013 10:45 AM

The first I heard about this was a few years ago when I read a thread or article about a K swapped modern day Mini... then when I searched more, I saw Honda engines being swapped in to classic Mini's all the time... if you think about it, it makes perfect sense... a great chassis with a great engine.

They even swapped old VW Beatles with Honda engines.

cjecpa 10-21-2013 11:02 AM

Cool little car that you do not always think about. Like most older cars great body style but the engine can be a concern as to performance and reliability. The car still carries a high price in running and non-running form.

1965 Austin Mini Cooper 1275 2 cars for 1 price

1978 Austin Mini Cooper right side drive

1972 Austin Mini,classic mini,morris,mini copper.british car


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