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Old 02-06-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman View Post
No, you said that they belong in "the junk bin of history". I guess that's why everyone has quit cycling, sailing, and cross-country skiing. Cars, motorboats, and snowmobiles just do the job better.
No I didn't. I wrote (new emphasis added for clarity):

"I hope that torque convertors are consigned to the same junk bin of history".

Like most people I have a lot of hopes and I'm entitled to express them. Maybe you hope that automatics will vanish and everyone be forced to use a clutch and manual gear lever.

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The carburetor and choke are completely bogus comparisons. Carburetors and fuel injection take the same input and produce the same output, making it a meaningless implementation detail. The choke was used merely to aide the engine. It never was a driving control.
When the choke was introduced many people criticised it because it frequently left the engine idling for too long. Agreed it wasn't a direct control but it is another example where eventually machinery became a better alternative to human control.

Carburetors are relevant in much the same way. Plenty of people didn't like (and probably still don't) the modern fuel injection system. Way back before carbs some vehicles had a manual control of the fuel/air mixture.

I never implied that no one should be allowed to use manual gearboxes merely that I don't wish to again and I'd be happy to see them go.

I didn't join a "manual gearboxes are great" thread and make a pro-automatic post to derail it. That would be rude, maybe even trolling. i posted a supporting message and added my thoughts.

OTOH you joined a "CVTs are great" thread and seem to be determined to derail it. That kind of action doesn't do much to further the interests of those of us contributing to this forum.
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