I need help with hooking up a non-Honda keyless entry

smeister · #1 (**permalink**) 06-10-2006, 10:52 PM

It's a Viper 5000. I need to hook up the 7 wires for the keyless entry and do not know how to hook them up. If anyone has done this please give me some tips. Thanks.

vtecboost · #2 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 01:29 AM

read the manual i think its in the manual to wire for negitive trigger. But your looking for the White/green White/Blue wires in the drivers kick for the lock and unlock wires.

xplicitnoize · #3 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 01:36 AM

I can help you with this....PM me i you need . I am a electronic car tech.....i do this all the time!

spider2k · #4 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 06:40 AM

assuming its the NA fit, this is direct from....directed

12volts white (50A) + ignition harness

Starter black/white + ignition harness

Ignition black/yellow + ignition harness

Second Ignition N/A

Accessory yellow/black + ignition harness

Second Accessory white/red + ignition harness

Keysense green/white - ign harn or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 11
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 20 pin plug, pin 8.

Power Lock white/green - dr kick or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 9
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Power Unlock white/blue - dr kick or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 10
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Lock Motor white/black 5wi fuse box, green 8 pin plug, pin 2

Unlock Motor yellow/black 5wi fuse box, green 8 pin plug, pin 5

Parking Lights+ red/black + fuse box, 14 pin plug, pin 5

Parking Lights- blue - switch or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 19
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 16 pin plug, pin 5.

Hazards same as turn signal wires

Turn Signal(L) green/red + switch or GCM, 20 pin plug, pin 6
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Turn Signal(R) green/yellow + switch or GCM, 20 pin plug, pin 5
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Reverse Light green/black + fuse box, 14 pin plug, pin 9

Door Trigger green (D), purple (P) - kick or GCM, 20 pin plg, pins 14, 13
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.
The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 20 pin plug, pins 20 and 9.

Dome Supervision green/red - fuse box or GCM, 20 pin plug, pin 12
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Trunk/Hatch Pin green/red - dr kick or GCM, 20 pin plug, pin 16
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 20 pin plug, pin 7.

Hood Pin green/black - pin sw or SCU, 20 pin plug, pin 18
Notes: The SCU (Security Control Unit) is under the driver side dash.

Trunk/Hatch Release N/A

Factory Alarm Arm white/red - dr kick or SCU, 20 pin plug, pin 4
Notes: Meter this wire while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder.
The SCU (Security Control Unit) is under the driver side dash.

Factory Alarm Disarm white - dr kick or SCU, 20 pin plug, pin 3
Notes: Meter this wire while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder.
The SCU (Security Control Unit) is under the driver side dash.

Disarm No Unlock see factory alarm disarm

Tachometer green/orange ac fuse box, 6 pin plug, pin 2
Notes: Can also go to any fuel injector and use the wire that is NOT yellow/black.
Can also go to any ignition coil and use the wire that is NOT black/white or black.

Brake Wire white/black + sw or fuse box, 14 pin plug, pin 4

Parking Brake green/orange - switch or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 3
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Horn Trigger orange - switch or GCM, 14 pin plug, pin 8
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 16 pin plug, pin 2.

hope this helps.ive also been doing this for about 10 years.

smeister · #5 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 11:06 AM

Thanks guys! I do have the directedtech info for the NA Base Fit, but the Viper 5000 manual talks about 87a and open and closed and I don't know what wires it is talking about. I'll check the manual first and look for the

Power Lock white/green - dr kick or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 9
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

Power Unlock white/blue - dr kick or GCM, 40 pin plug, pin 10
Notes: The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.

If anyone could tell me exactly what wires from the Viper 5000 goes to which wire on the Honda I would be set heheh.

spider2k · #6 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 10:34 PM

ground the violet and violet/black wires.

the green/black goes to white/green

the blue/black goes to white/blue.

the white/black and brown/black are not used for your application.

smeister · #7 (**permalink**) 06-11-2006, 10:37 PM

Thanks for the help! I'll finish it up tomorrow and let you know.

smeister · #8 (**permalink**) 06-22-2006, 08:29 AM

Alright, I finally had time to finish up a few wires. The only problem is I can't seem to set up the alarm. The instructions say to leave one door open and then turn the igition on then off and then hold down the button. It is supposed to chrip after 3 seconds for the first menu but nada. Did I wire something wrong? The alarm also seems like it has no sensitivity and when it is armed I can't even get it to ALARM.

xplicitnoize · #9 (**permalink**) 06-23-2006, 01:53 AM

You have to connect the green wire of your main alarm harness to those wires.
"Door Trigger green (D), purple (P) - kick or GCM, 20 pin plg, pins 14, 13
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.
The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 20 pin plug, pins 20 and 9.
just be sure that you connected every wires you need to connect.
Also maybe you've enter the Valet Mode by mistake and you can't go in programmation mode while you're in Valet Mode. To get in or out of valet mode you have to put ignition on and then off and then press the little black switch one time.

Have Fun !!!

smeister · #10 (**permalink**) 06-23-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xplicitnoize

You have to connect the green wire of your main alarm harness to those wires.
"Door Trigger green (D), purple (P) - kick or GCM, 20 pin plg, pins 14, 13
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.
The GCM (Gauge Control Module) is incorporated in the instrument cluster.
If equipped, also found at the SCU (Security Control Unit) under the driver side dash, 20 pin plug, pins 20 and 9.
just be sure that you connected every wires you need to connect.
Also maybe you've enter the Valet Mode by mistake and you can't go in programmation mode while you're in Valet Mode. To get in or out of valet mode you have to put ignition on and then off and then press the little black switch one time.

Have Fun !!!

Ok, I diode isolated two door trigger wires from the alarm to only the green door trigger on the car. I left the purple (passenger) one alone. Also, what does Ignition on mean? Do I turn the key like I was starting the car without the clutch being down? TIA

xplicitnoize · #11 (**permalink**) 06-23-2006, 05:21 PM

Ignition on is the position of the key when all the lights come's on in the dash without starting the car.

spider2k · #12 (**permalink**) 06-24-2006, 08:51 AM

how did you isolate them? did you just put a diode between each line and the green or did you cut each wire and put 2 diodes on each one?

smeister · #13 (**permalink**) 06-24-2006, 12:23 PM

I cut the honda wire and put 2 diodes on each of the door trigger wires on the alarm.

Sol705 · #14 (**permalink**) 07-07-2006, 05:37 PM

Question, doesn't doing this void the warranty? The dealership was very specific about not installing any components on my own (I guess similar to the
"warranty void if seal broken" stickers)

spreadhead · #15 (**permalink**) 07-07-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sol705

Question, doesn't doing this void the warranty? The dealership was very specific about not installing any components on my own (I guess similar to the
"warranty void if seal broken" stickers)

No it won't void your warranty. However your warranty will not cover anything you damage doing the install. The stealership just wants more of your money.

Sol705 · #16 (**permalink**) 07-07-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spreadhead

No it won't void your warranty. However your warranty will not cover anything you damage doing the install. The stealership just wants more of your money.

Is there a number or something I can call to double check this? I'm not too keen on them sharging me $500 to install a POS car alarm that won't even have keyless entry