Spring Comparision

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*Detailed Spreadsheet on Page 2*

This is what I came up with so far. I know there are some blanks, but this is all I could find. And if any of the information I have supplied is incorrect, just post the correction. This took like 10 min.'s so if this helps just one person, it was worth every second.

1st Gen Honda Fit Drop Spring Comparision
Name Part Number MSRP Drop Height F/R Spring Rate lb/in
Tanabe GF210 TGF122 $240 1.5/0.9 190/280
Tanabe DF210 TDF122 $220 1.8/1.3 173/274
Progress 40.106 $157.25 1.5/1.3 160/200
Skunk2 519-05-1750 $200 1.5/1.0 175/350
Eibach Pro Kit 4069.14 $230 1.6/1.3
Eibach Sport Line 4.694 $228 2.0/1.8
T1R S-Coil $251.99 1.6/1.4 179/341
Swift 4H017 1.4/0.8 168/313

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Man, that looks like crap. It looks much better on my spread sheet.

[kenchan]

Originally Posted by Mugen Mojo

Man, that looks like crap. It looks much better on my spread sheet.

hahahaha. lol

[JackBurton]

...its the thought that counts! +rep

[fit_love]

forgot the teins

[gettin~Fit]

Originally Posted by fit_love

forgot the teins

do you feel any different about the coilovers?

[98TypeR]

How about adding the stock spring rates for comparison?

[kennef]

Originally Posted by 98TypeR

How about adding the stock spring rates for comparison?

if anyone can definitively find the stock rates, that would be great.
also, i think that OP should mark the progressive springs with a P or something.

[fit_love]

Originally Posted by gettin~Fit

do you feel any different about the coilovers?

What? Sorry I don't follow. lol

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Originally Posted by 98TypeR

How about adding the stock spring rates for comparison?

I could not find them... help us all out and find them for me!

[gettin~Fit]

the tien basic coilover, I take it you don't like the s techs

[fit_love]

Originally Posted by gettin~Fit

the tien basic coilover, I take it you don't like the s techs

i love my s-techs

[fit_love]

Tein S-Tech's TEI-STEC $209.99 1.8/1.3

I've had my S-Tech's on my fit for about a month yet and I love them. I have the tein coilovers on my integra, so I'm used to that low look and feeling. To be honest, I don't think I gave up much in comfort or ride by putting them on. The ride is great. Most of the time I don't even realize I am lower than stock. I highly recommend them to anyone who wants the low look, but can't really afford coilovers right now. Here's some pictures for anyone interested:

[rabbitron]

thanks for putting up that list. i know i find it helpful.

are the spring rates correct for the tanabe's? the df's are lower than the gf's but are softer?????

its also wierd that the front spring ranges are all within 30 lbs and the rears can differ by as much as 150 lbs.

the numbers also make the Progress springs look like they're the best combo for drop and comfort (at least among those with the spring rates written)

thanks again for the list since i'm looking to get a set soon, and i'm trying to keep the ride comfort level as close to stock while lowered.

[RubyQQ1211]

Can anyone explain the Spring Rate (lb/in)? I am assuming the higher the number = stiffer ride?

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Originally Posted by RubyQQ1211

Can anyone explain the Spring Rate (lb/in)? I am assuming the higher the number = stiffer ride?

That is correct sir. And the way I got my numbers is taking the information from the web sites of each company and converting them all into lb/in from kg/mm. The equation goes as follows:

kg/mm = X lb/in = Y

X/.0179 = Y

Reference: Online Conversion - spring rate conversion

[kenchan]

fitlove- did you take the picts right after the install? cause your ride is
much higher than other stechs apps ive seen on Fits.

[kenchan]

also note that these are progressive rate springs...meaning, they have
initial and full compression rates and many variable rates in between.

those numbers are to be used only as a guide... there is no indication
whether those are initial or full or just averages.

if you see a rate like 500lbs, you know they are very stiff.

if you see 2 different rates from the same manufactuer then
you can tell which are stiffer as they probably (assuming)
used the same measuring method(s).

2 different rates from 2 different manufacturers.... you can only
guess.

[rabbitron]

Originally Posted by kenchan

if you see 2 different rates from the same manufactuer then
you can tell which are stiffer as they probably (assuming)
used the same measuring method(s).

2 different rates from 2 different manufacturers.... you can only
guess.

hence my confusion with the 2 sets from tanabe....

[kenchan]

Originally Posted by rabbitron

hence my confusion with the 2 sets from tanabe....

you're probably confused because you think lower ride = better
performance..not the case with just lowering springs.

The GF's are targeted for better performance than DF's. note
that i did not say better performance over stock.

better performance in general means using the car's optimum
suspension stroke per design and keeping the movement
to the minimum to reduce toe/camber change distortion.

therefore, the GF's ride stiffer and closer to the factory designed
ride height while lowering the ride a bit for appearance. it might
have better performance in the area that it limits suspension
movement with its higher spring rate to minimize camber and
toe changes. but at the same time it overpowers the programmed
dampers... so there's still a lot of give and take.

DF's ride lower riding near the outside tolerance of the designed
suspension geometry and softer as the obvious goal is dressup.
for people that drive for dressup concentrate more on comfort
than performance...therefore tanabe used softer rates.


>Tanabe GF210 TGF122 $240 1.5/0.9 190/280
>Tanabe DF210 TDF122 $220 1.8/1.3 173/274