Well...
#1
Well...
I'n not here to rant and rave. I bought a Fit (2007 with 28K miles on it) and I knew what I was getting. I don't hate the Fit but I can't honestly say I love it either. I find it to be reliable, very economical to maintain and rather bland. That said, I do have 2 things I would like to say to Honda.
1. The carpet is TERRIBLE. I have never seen such a cheap hunk of garbage as the carpet in that car. I have 58K miles on it and it looks like a bear has been using it for teething. I have had several Hondas over the years (starting with a 1980 Civic 1500GL) and I have never seen such terrible quality in a Honda product. There aren't even any decent OEM fit replacements available.
2. 33mpg highway? My 80 Civic got 45mpg highway 31 YEARS AGO. You cannot make me believe that in 31 years of Honda engine design and refinements that is the best you can do. I realize emissions standards play a role in this but in three decades surely you could have done better.
Okay, I feel better now...I've vented.
1. The carpet is TERRIBLE. I have never seen such a cheap hunk of garbage as the carpet in that car. I have 58K miles on it and it looks like a bear has been using it for teething. I have had several Hondas over the years (starting with a 1980 Civic 1500GL) and I have never seen such terrible quality in a Honda product. There aren't even any decent OEM fit replacements available.
2. 33mpg highway? My 80 Civic got 45mpg highway 31 YEARS AGO. You cannot make me believe that in 31 years of Honda engine design and refinements that is the best you can do. I realize emissions standards play a role in this but in three decades surely you could have done better.
Okay, I feel better now...I've vented.
Last edited by dixeyk; 09-17-2011 at 12:14 PM.
#3
I'n not here to rant and rave. I bought a Fit (2007 with 28K miles on it) and I knew what I was getting. I don't hate the Fit but I can't honestly say I love it either. I find it to be reliable, very economical to maintain and rather bland. That said, I do have 2 things I would like to say to Honda.
2. 33mpg highway? My 80 Civic got 45mpg highway 31 YEARS AGO. You cannot make me believe that in 31 years of Honda engine design and refinements that is the best you can do. I realize emissions standards play a role in this but in three decades surely you could have done better.
2. 33mpg highway? My 80 Civic got 45mpg highway 31 YEARS AGO. You cannot make me believe that in 31 years of Honda engine design and refinements that is the best you can do. I realize emissions standards play a role in this but in three decades surely you could have done better.
Your 1980 Civic was also probably 700 lbs lighter and a deathtrap in any accident above 30 mph and was putting down a pluse pounding 60hp.
Safety standards, more weight, bigger car blah blah
I do agree the carpets are garbage.
#5
...nope, it's a 5MT and it has never even sniffed 40mpg. I might have gotten 35mpg going downhill with the wind behind me but 40mpg is not something my little orange Fit will ever see.
Last edited by dixeyk; 09-21-2011 at 01:20 PM.
#6
I get about 40 mpg highway on the Fit without even trying? The laws of physics will say though that you can only do so much to save gas when you increase weight. For what it is I think the L15 is an incredibly efficient engine.
Your 1980 Civic was also probably 700 lbs lighter and a deathtrap in any accident above 30 mph and was putting down a pluse pounding 60hp.
Safety standards, more weight, bigger car blah blah
I do agree the carpets are garbage.
Your 1980 Civic was also probably 700 lbs lighter and a deathtrap in any accident above 30 mph and was putting down a pluse pounding 60hp.
Safety standards, more weight, bigger car blah blah
I do agree the carpets are garbage.
#7
That's very strange unless you're driving 80mph everywhere. At 65mph on a flat road you should be seeing 40mpg easy unless there's something wrong.
#8
I suppose weather might be a factor. OC has a lot of warm dry weather as opposed to NW Washington which does not and windy, wet conditions are not ideal for good mileage. As I recall my Civics always got better mileage in hot weather. That said my 86 Subaru wagon with 4WD and an engine ready to die any minute could manage 30mpg highway up here. Well...whatever the problem 40mpg is a fantasy as far as my Fit is concerned.
Last edited by dixeyk; 09-21-2011 at 02:59 PM.
#12
I was getting between 37.5 and 39 pretty consistently when my car was stock but now the best I can do is 33 and the last tank was just under 28.. Using 0w30 synthetic oil in my car helped a lot and running it to red line in a couple of gears at wot after the engine has warmed up a couple of times will result in more ignition advance from the ECU and will also help get better mileage...
#13
My AT just got two tanks over 39 mpg on a long road trip in 100 heat. Mostly 75+ mph through the Mojave and Sonoran deserts. The AT will hold it's own for a slushbox.
#14
I was getting between 37.5 and 39 pretty consistently when my car was stock but now the best I can do is 33 and the last tank was just under 28.. Using 0w30 synthetic oil in my car helped a lot and running it to red line in a couple of gears at wot after the engine has warmed up a couple of times will result in more ignition advance from the ECU and will also help get better mileage...
#15
The automatic Hondas fuel mileage isn't all that great in traffic or hilly terrain but with the taller gearing they have the engine is turning much lower revs than a car with manual transmission... I think I would prefer an automatic if I lived on the High Plains because the drop in revs would be less stressful..
#16
I can honestly say that my Fit is still getting great gas milage and I normally fill up every 2 weeks. It has a lot to do with how you drive, weather and road conditions. I wouldn't give up my baby for anything and I know it has its faults but the fun factor just erases those things in my eyes.
#17
I can honestly say that my Fit is still getting great gas milage and I normally fill up every 2 weeks. It has a lot to do with how you drive, weather and road conditions. I wouldn't give up my baby for anything and I know it has its faults but the fun factor just erases those things in my eyes.
Last edited by dixeyk; 09-23-2011 at 02:44 AM.
#18
I guess for me the fact that the Fit is fun -is based on several things. First my Fit is modified and doesn't look like anyone elses Fit on the road (at least here in WV). I've had people stop and ask me about the car, someone took a picture of my Fit rolling down the road sticking their cell phone out the sun roof to snap it and I've had guys give me the thumbs up. So yes, all that has been fun. I've never own a car that has gotten that kind of attention and I have to say everytime I open up the garage door I feel like Twinkie in FF Tokoyo Drift when he is showing Shane his car for the first time. To me the Fit puts a smile on my face everytime I get behind the wheel. Oh and this also makes owning my Fit fun...
I am the only person in WV who actually shows their car in import classes at cars shows all over WV and Ohio. We've actually won some Best of Shows and even though the car is my DD it is my weekend show baby too. So far the Fit has won 20 awards and this is something else fun that I do with my car. I still can't wait to get behind the wheel of the Fit and this is the only car I've ever had this connection with. Everything else was just transportation until I got the Fit. Purchased it for the good gas milage but then once I started modifying and making it my own - it became so much more. My hope is to keep driving the Fit for many more years. I have owned it for 4 years and only have 25,0000 miles on it so my hope is that it will take me to nearly my retirement time. Then I plan to purchase a Honda either a CRX, EG Hatch or Del Sol that will become my new show car. No matter what happens though the Fit will always be remembered as the most fun car I have ever owned.
I am the only person in WV who actually shows their car in import classes at cars shows all over WV and Ohio. We've actually won some Best of Shows and even though the car is my DD it is my weekend show baby too. So far the Fit has won 20 awards and this is something else fun that I do with my car. I still can't wait to get behind the wheel of the Fit and this is the only car I've ever had this connection with. Everything else was just transportation until I got the Fit. Purchased it for the good gas milage but then once I started modifying and making it my own - it became so much more. My hope is to keep driving the Fit for many more years. I have owned it for 4 years and only have 25,0000 miles on it so my hope is that it will take me to nearly my retirement time. Then I plan to purchase a Honda either a CRX, EG Hatch or Del Sol that will become my new show car. No matter what happens though the Fit will always be remembered as the most fun car I have ever owned.
#19
I guess for me the fact that the Fit is fun -is based on several things. First my Fit is modified and doesn't look like anyone elses Fit on the road (at least here in WV). I've had people stop and ask me about the car, someone took a picture of my Fit rolling down the road sticking their cell phone out the sun roof to snap it and I've had guys give me the thumbs up. So yes, all that has been fun. I've never own a car that has gotten that kind of attention and I have to say everytime I open up the garage door I feel like Twinkie in FF Tokoyo Drift when he is showing Shane his car for the first time. To me the Fit puts a smile on my face everytime I get behind the wheel. Oh and this also makes owning my Fit fun...
I am the only person in WV who actually shows their car in import classes at cars shows all over WV and Ohio. We've actually won some Best of Shows and even though the car is my DD it is my weekend show baby too. So far the Fit has won 20 awards and this is something else fun that I do with my car. I still can't wait to get behind the wheel of the Fit and this is the only car I've ever had this connection with. Everything else was just transportation until I got the Fit. Purchased it for the good gas milage but then once I started modifying and making it my own - it became so much more. My hope is to keep driving the Fit for many more years. I have owned it for 4 years and only have 25,0000 miles on it so my hope is that it will take me to nearly my retirement time. Then I plan to purchase a Honda either a CRX, EG Hatch or Del Sol that will become my new show car. No matter what happens though the Fit will always be remembered as the most fun car I have ever owned.
I am the only person in WV who actually shows their car in import classes at cars shows all over WV and Ohio. We've actually won some Best of Shows and even though the car is my DD it is my weekend show baby too. So far the Fit has won 20 awards and this is something else fun that I do with my car. I still can't wait to get behind the wheel of the Fit and this is the only car I've ever had this connection with. Everything else was just transportation until I got the Fit. Purchased it for the good gas milage but then once I started modifying and making it my own - it became so much more. My hope is to keep driving the Fit for many more years. I have owned it for 4 years and only have 25,0000 miles on it so my hope is that it will take me to nearly my retirement time. Then I plan to purchase a Honda either a CRX, EG Hatch or Del Sol that will become my new show car. No matter what happens though the Fit will always be remembered as the most fun car I have ever owned.
About a decade ago I got a brand new 2002 WRX (silver sedan with no spoiler). It was my 40th birthday present (from my wife) and it was the kind of car I had been wanting for years. I grew up driving Hondas (multiple Civics) and now I had a thriving business, house, retirement, terrific wife...you get the picture. Fast forward several months...9/11 happened (and as a lot of our income came from work the shop did for Boeing it was devastating to the business) then a few months later I was diagnosed with cancer. My next step was going to be lay off my employees and try to downsize and ride it out. I was tol by my insurance company that if I did that they would cancel my insurance coverage (this is while I was in active treatment for my cancer). I kept all my employees and paid them with my savings, retirement and eventually by borrowing from my credit cards. A year later I was cancer free (and I am coming up on a decade cancer free next year) but I also lost everything of material value (savings, retirement, home and finally my WRX). In truth, I have gained much more than I lost. I went back and got my Masters my wife and I have a wonderful 8 year old boy (and after 27 years and still going strong) and I am probably in the best health (and shape) I have ever been in. My life is better in more ways than I can count. That said I also had a the great big cosmic reset button pushed on my life so at age 50 I am only 5 years into my job (although thankful to have a job in this economy) and facing the prospect of needing to work until I am 100 to get back to something resembling savings and retirement...but it's way better than being dead.
But...I miss the WRX and what it represented to me. I look at the Fit and it just seems like a goofy orange faux car (partly because it was all the car I could afford). The Fit and the WRX could not be more different. The WRX was fast, agile, reckless and could go anywhere (fire roads were a thing of beauty in my WRX). I also learned how to work on it so I had a connection with it like I have never had with any car (just as you have with your Fit). After reading your post I realize that I have not been giving the Fit a fair shake. I have been disappointed for all that the Fit is not and not seeing it for what it is. Maybe it's time to start seeing the Fit for what it really is. I went out and bought a new Skunk2 shifter knob in an attempt to show the Fit some love (and maybe it's time to install that SRI still sitting in the box under my desk). It'll never be my WRX but maybe if I make it mine I can have some fun with my Fit as well...maybe I'll even grow to love it like the rest of the Fit Freaks . Thanks for reminding me to look at things in a different way. I predict your going to need a bigger trophy table.
Last edited by dixeyk; 09-24-2011 at 11:45 AM.
#20
What your post made me realize is that my problem with the Fit isn't about what it is but what it is not. What it isn't is my WRX.
In truth, I have gained much more than I lost.
But...I miss the WRX and what it represented to me. The Fit and the WRX could not be more different. It'll never be my WRX but maybe if I make it mine I can have some fun with my Fit as well...maybe I'll even grow to love it like the rest of the Fit Freaks .
In truth, I have gained much more than I lost.
But...I miss the WRX and what it represented to me. The Fit and the WRX could not be more different. It'll never be my WRX but maybe if I make it mine I can have some fun with my Fit as well...maybe I'll even grow to love it like the rest of the Fit Freaks .
"Let the car show your character and not give you character." Cheers!