Originally Posted by SFactor2

REP for the post only!!

i only tell the truth

i don't believe that people should be rewarded for "doing the right thing"
but i will try to point out all the liars/people who post crap that don't know the truth

naughty kids need to spanked!!

Originally Posted by Gbaby2089

did you intend to neg rep me? if not you

also summing up this thread=

someone really needs to close this thread

Originally Posted by Koi

Wow, where did this SFactor2 troll come from? He's like solbrothers on crack, except solbrothers is actually likable in a way. Shouldn't you stick to posting on the public forums of edmunds or caranddriver or something, at least until you learn how to compose a proper sentence?

Originally Posted by TurboManGT

He negative repped me too just because he didn't agree with me

Originally Posted by Koi

Long story short, what I said summarized is that there's no point in people trying to DISPROVE or explain how the BTC doesn't do anything, etc, in this thread. As I said, there's threads already out there dealing solely about the BTC that have already discussed exactly what mahout has been posting about. There is no need to keep posting negative "reviews" of the BTC here - if you think it's bunk, fine, just keep it to yourself, state your opinion once, and know that there's already threads on this forum that present that side of the argument. No need to funk up this thread with some kind of anti-BTC zeal.

Originally Posted by Koi

Here's the thing though. While you're trying to prove the ineffectiveness of the TC, the EXACT same things you've said have already been discussed in multiple threads on FitFreak months ago. There's always going to be people like you who are looking to improve HP or whatever at exorbitant costs for not much in return (you're not going to get much out of this car without FI, end of discussion), and there's always people like me who want to improve the daily driving performance of what is a very slow and sluggish car. Performance is relative to what the car is being used for and the person driving it ("the manner in which or the efficiency with which something reacts or fulfills its intended purpose"), and from what you can infer from all the positive reviews of the TC, this mod does improve the performance of the car. If you don't agree with the majority reaction to the TC, and think the technical workings of the TC are pointless, then okay - just keep it to yourself and know that there's plenty of people who have already discussed the TC in it's pros and cons in much more detail than you probably can.

There are people who want to prove that a mod is not worth the money, and there are those who actually have the mod and think it was worth the money. So what are you trying to prove? Just by reading the threads on the BTC, anyone should be able to form an opinion regarding whether or not the purchase is worth it or not. There are plenty of people on this forum (and those who don't visit this forum, including those who have BTC for non-Fit cars) who believe the TC is a great mod that is worth every dollar - regardless of all the whining people have to do about how it's the "same as stepping harder on the throttle".

Frankly, it's quite idiotic for anyone to claim how there's no HP/TQ/etc increase when Blitz explicitly says there is no improvement in those areas. If we buy the TC fully knowing this, why would we be arguing how those areas of performance were increased? The only people who are going to be disappointed are those who don't know how to read and buy anything that they think will give them more HP and other e-peen numbers.

And if you want to think about the price - it's still relatively cheap compared to most items out there from quality companies. If someone thinks Volks racing wheels are a good performance mod for the money, then hey - you can get the TC for the cost of one wheel. If someone thinks a catback with ~3-4hp increase is a good bang for the money, then you can get the TC for $100-200 less than that, and without exorbitant shipping rates. And really, what is $400 to people modding their cars - even a highschooler working parttime at minimum wage can afford it in a month, don't bother asking me about the budget of people who are spending $3k+ on FI and $1k+ on wheels etc.

Nobody is arguing that the TC is "more" worth it than a new set of tires, or a set of coilovers, or etc etc etc. The only thing anyone is saying regarding the TC is that it is a good mod, period. Buy it if you want, get something else you want better handling, get this or that for whatever else you want that the TC doesn't fulfill. As you said, let the reader decide - not someone who thinks that well-received "cute" mods can't help a vehicle's economy or performance (my MPG has actually gone UP from using the TC - I only have my own results, but that's enough for me - I'm not trying to prove a point that was never brought up by BTC in the first place). There's enough info out there for him to make a decision on his own without your watchdog-complex in protecting him from spending money on a "cute" mod.

Originally Posted by mozarwasagenius

I'm low on funds so I'd say $100 Thanks

Originally Posted by mahout

On an 08 the most bang for the buck is to deactivate the front antisway bar to greatly reduce the enormous understeer on your Fit. Thats deactivate, not remove, by tying up the ends to the inner fender.
Best thing is its free.

Originally Posted by SFactor3

neg repping someone who neg repped u = sore loser!!!