Tire Question. I searched...
#1
Tire Question. I searched...
So my Fit needs new tires and I have the option to buy a set of replacement wheels/tires for way less than it would be to simply buy tires?!
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
#5
Could the seller allow you to test-fit the new pieces and assure they don't rub?
Do the new wheels have the same hub opening (remember, newer Honda wheels are hub-centric)? If too big, not a large prob, as plastic spacers can be purchased inexpensively. If too small, ugh.
Make sure you try front AND back. I tried some other rims (different offset) on one of my cars once, thinking if any issues occurred, they would be at the front.
No issues, so I bought them, and wouldn't you know, if anyone sat in the back seat, the REARS would rub on bumps.
Do the new wheels have the same hub opening (remember, newer Honda wheels are hub-centric)? If too big, not a large prob, as plastic spacers can be purchased inexpensively. If too small, ugh.
Make sure you try front AND back. I tried some other rims (different offset) on one of my cars once, thinking if any issues occurred, they would be at the front.
No issues, so I bought them, and wouldn't you know, if anyone sat in the back seat, the REARS would rub on bumps.
Last edited by Carbuff2; 12-11-2011 at 10:14 AM.
#6
So OP, check your tires clearances now, then imaging a tire that has the tread .65" further out and is also 10mm wider on each side of the tire. Turn your wheels to maximum lock in both directions and see what kind of clearances you have.
#8
The tire WILL be taller, by a small amount. His stock sidewall is 55% of 195mm and the new sidewall is 55% of 225mm. The stock tires are a 23.44 inch diameter tire, whereas the 225s are going to be 24.74 inches. That's 1.3 inches larger and will be .65" taller along its radii.
So OP, check your tires clearances now, then imaging a tire that has the tread .65" further out and is also 10mm wider on each side of the tire. Turn your wheels to maximum lock in both directions and see what kind of clearances you have.
So OP, check your tires clearances now, then imaging a tire that has the tread .65" further out and is also 10mm wider on each side of the tire. Turn your wheels to maximum lock in both directions and see what kind of clearances you have.
#9
Yes, they will rub at stock height due to both the combination of their overall diameter (~24.74 inches compared to 195/55R15's ~23.44) and the additional width.
I personally run 205/55R15s (~24 inches when new) at the moment and rub at stock height both front and rear. Granted, I do have aftermarket wheels which places the wheel/tire combo 21mm away from the car's center line (towards the fender & out) the outer sidewalls of our tires would be at fairly similar locations, assuming you were to use the factory 15x6 ET+55 Sport alloys.
Now with that said and again if you were to use the factory Sport alloys, putting 225s on them would quite similar to that of putting 195/55s on a 15x6 ET+40 wheel (outer sidewall placement wise). It shouldn't rub if the tire was a 225/45R15 since their OD is (~23 inches); however, with the taller 225/55R15s (again ~24.74) you would indeed rub and be at risk for hitting your fenders if you hit a hard enough bump during turning.
I had to slightly pull outwards my front fenders in order safely clear and still barely "nip" the fender liners on bumps during cornering.
I personally run 205/55R15s (~24 inches when new) at the moment and rub at stock height both front and rear. Granted, I do have aftermarket wheels which places the wheel/tire combo 21mm away from the car's center line (towards the fender & out) the outer sidewalls of our tires would be at fairly similar locations, assuming you were to use the factory 15x6 ET+55 Sport alloys.
Now with that said and again if you were to use the factory Sport alloys, putting 225s on them would quite similar to that of putting 195/55s on a 15x6 ET+40 wheel (outer sidewall placement wise). It shouldn't rub if the tire was a 225/45R15 since their OD is (~23 inches); however, with the taller 225/55R15s (again ~24.74) you would indeed rub and be at risk for hitting your fenders if you hit a hard enough bump during turning.
I had to slightly pull outwards my front fenders in order safely clear and still barely "nip" the fender liners on bumps during cornering.
#10
So my Fit needs new tires and I have the option to buy a set of replacement wheels/tires for way less than it would be to simply buy tires?!
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
You bet.
Not only are they wider by 30 mm or 1.18", they are bigger diameter by a bunch, 23.4" stock vs 24.77". Not recommended.
#11
for anybody searching the forum for an answer:
2008 Honda Fit Sport, stock springs, wanting to run; 225/55-15 or 225 55 15 tires.
They will not work. They rub.
Thanks to everybody who replied.
-Dean
2008 Honda Fit Sport, stock springs, wanting to run; 225/55-15 or 225 55 15 tires.
They will not work. They rub.
Thanks to everybody who replied.
-Dean
#12
No kidding. If you search just 10% of the posts on this site you will not take long to find minimum offset 45 mm, maximum yire section width 205 and keep the tire diameter under 24 inches. Unless you want to do bodywork.
#13
So my Fit needs new tires and I have the option to buy a set of replacement wheels/tires for way less than it would be to simply buy tires?!
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
Only problem is the tires mounted are 225/55-15's instead of the stock 195/55-15 OEM size.
I searched but most hits are about going to bigger wheels/fatter tires?
I understand the tires are taller (~.7") speedometer will be off (@60mph, actual 63.3mph).
Will these rub?
Thanks
Dean
You bet. Not only too wide ( 5/8" each side -0 15 mm per) but too tall(by 1.3"), not to mention heavy as lead. You'll pay dearly in acceleration and in mpg.
#14
They do work. They only rub during extreme turns and extreme angles like driveways and such. They have never rubbed on the roadway even during spirited driving. During the last rotation we looked at the rub spots, it is only on the plastic wheel liners, no metal contact anywhere we could tell.
This is my second set this size on the stock rims on 2008 Sport. The first set wore perfectly even across the tread, so well in fact that I kept them to use should I decide to autocross it.
#15
I have 205-50-16" tires on 11.8 lb 6.5x16" 45mm offset wheels... If my car wasn't equipped with a KWSC high boost kit and other performance modifications, the weight of the tires would be like anchors... I love the ride, handling and traction but I have to be careful when passing a slower moving car on 2 lane roads... With the wheel size and offset I haven't had a problem with the tires making contact with the fenders... It would please me to no end if there were light weight wheels being manufactured with the same dimensions as the stock OEM wheels... The tires I now have if mounted on OEM alloy wheels would weigh 39.4 Lbs each where the wheels and tires I now have weigh 33.8 the ones that preceded these weighed just 24.5... each...
#16
^^why are u running 205/50/16? I have 205/45/16 +42. You see how low my car is the, only times I ever rub is when im turning and hit a bump or going in a strait line and hit a really big/nasty bump or dip in the road.
Last edited by MNfit; 01-02-2012 at 03:08 PM.
#17
It's kind of difficult to explain but I had 16x7"38mm wheels that I had worn out the 195/45/16" tires and was driving on my RPF1s when one of the 195/55/15s had a flat and ruined the sidewall before I could bring it down from speed and stop... I wasn't able to get a 15" tire and could get some decent 16" tires but they scraped badly so I ordered new wheels... They are the best tires I have had on my Fit as far as wet and cold dry weather traction ... I really needed the tires for a trip to Dallas.. I would hate them if my car was stock but for 5 months a year when we are likely to have cool weather and heavy rain fall I think they are great... I'll have a different set of 15" tires for the hot months..
#19
The only time I feel there is an advantage to having heavy wheels and tires is when you are coasting... They will coast further but then when you must stop they put more strain on your brakes and strut control arms. When you accelerate there is more strain on the control arms CV joints transmission clutch and engine...