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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 04:23 AM
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low oil pressure?

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First thing at 13 miles from home . I notice was the cruise control stop working and then engine lite came on. Then I started to lose power due to engine shutting down. But I still had power but I could not accelerate hardly at all but I could hold a steady speed. Never heard any pinging or engine noise and still don't. Its just missing a lot or stumbles.
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It sounds as though the car went into limp mod, the ECU will do that to try and protect the engine. You lose power and cant rev past 3K rpms.
If your oil pressure is low, the VTEC solenoid will not function. You will notice a loss of power when attempting to accelerate. Check to make sure your oil level is within specs. If your oil level is good, then your VTEC solenoid may be starting to go.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I got it at Honda now for its miss firing bad on 2 and 4 cyl. They are now going to take the head off and check pistons and valves. I told them I don't want a bandage fix but was told they need to do this to make sure of what is wrong before they can give me a new engine. We see what happens from here.
 
Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Great if you can get a new engine.
 
Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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I'd hate to be on either side of this deal.... I'm like fittman and do my oil changes myself when I feel like it is time for them to be done... I've never let a dealership lay a wrench on my car in the 5 1/2 years have had it....
 
Old Jan 31, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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I'd hate to be on either side of this deal.... I'm like fittman and do my oil changes myself when I feel like it is time for them to be done... I've never let a dealership lay a wrench on my car in the 5 1/2 years have had it....
I agree. I've never let a mechanic touch any of my cars other than a recall.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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OK peeps here the latest on the Fit. Seems Honda now says I have 2 bad coils on cyl 2 and 4 but they need to replace all 4 cause if 2 are bad all need to be replaced for a nice fee of 1000 dollars. Now I'm really getting confused. Could running the car without oil cause this? or is this a coincidence. Only thing I could think that would cause 2 bad coils would be running it in limp mode for 13 miles.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Did they tell you the condition of your motor? Did they do any tests to it at all? Did they show you the tests?

"The coil packs are bad" sounds like a slight of hand to make you forget about the original problem. Both problems may be valid, but you should really get some information from them on the condition of the motor internally after your oil loss issue. Don't let them dodge that issue or confuse you.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Something doesn't sound right. Smoke and mirrors.
I would put the brakes on it all until you bring in a corporate contact.

The number, right out of my owners manual, is 800-999-1009

If I were you I would be on the phone with them explaining what has occurred a what you're take on things is. The dealer service messed up big time and now they are hiding behind bad coils?? Where is there obligation of fault in that? You have experienced a loss, they messed up. That needs to stand in front of all this.

Don't let a dealer steamroll you.

My guess is your car ran perfectly fine before the oil plug dropped out of it. Honda had it in their shop and worked on it. No need to prove anything beyond that.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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My guess is your car ran perfectly fine before the oil plug dropped out of it. Honda had it in their shop and worked on it. No need to prove anything beyond that.
Well said.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Krimson_Cardnal
Something doesn't sound right. Smoke and mirrors.
I would put the brakes on it all until you bring in a corporate contact.

The number, right out of my owners manual, is 800-999-1009

If I were you I would be on the phone with them explaining what has occurred a what you're take on things is. The dealer service messed up big time and now they are hiding behind bad coils?? Where is there obligation of fault in that? You have experienced a loss, they messed up. That needs to stand in front of all this.

Don't let a dealer steamroll you.

My guess is your car ran perfectly fine before the oil plug dropped out of it. Honda had it in their shop and worked on it. No need to prove anything beyond that.
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They didn't service the car properly and it failed. Definitely their fault. Raise all heck because, they are sweeping their mistake under the rug.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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I agree x3. Don't get distracted and call Honda. Report that dealer too. Actual cost of the work is a few hundred for the coil packs at dealer cost with labor and that is the least they could do. I believe Heat is the reason the coil packs fail but the jury is still out on that.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Thanks peeps and car did run great before all of this. I had no problems at all. I just called that number and will call again in morning. Hours are 6 to 8.
 

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Like everyone has already said, don't let them punk you. Stand your ground and refuse to pay them any amount of money for anything.

Getting in contact with corporate is probably the best thing to do. The dealership is probably going to try to weasel its way out of this, unless you go straight to their superiors (Honda corporate).

They've already taken your time for what should have been a routine oil change. Now they want to blame your coilpacks and charge you? Don't let them take your money too. I hate it when dealerships pull this kind of nonsense.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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Yeah this dealership is a joke. I got another Honda also a 2007 Civic. Really like both the Fit and Civic. Got lifetime oil change with both but really bugs me every time I take in for change they always say I need this and I need that. They do that to everyone its really kinda funny to listen to and how most people bite. O this dealer is in Panama City FL
 

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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I really hope it work out for you but with my experiences with Honda Customer Service, I dont think it will.

In my case they had already goodwilled the fan motor so when my 09 rolled up for a vacuum leak that "required" new o rings on the upper manifold and a valve adjustment, the best they could do was 50/50 though I explained they probably did not perform the recall properly on myfit (broken clips and wire ties not replaced)

Deven though
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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sorry...

dealership ignored me and I walked....long story short (in another thread), my lower intake manifold was MISSING A BOLT, allowing a large amount of air in, resulting in CEL's and horrible mileage. FIxed it at Home Depot.

you can go the bird dog route, and I wish you the best, but you may want to start testing the coil packs yourself (switch them up and see if the same cylinders keep acting up). Pull the valve cover off and see if everything up top is getting oil and seems ok.

At the very least it will give you more ammunition in your fight. The dealership will say you cant prove you or someone else didnt remove the plug yourself and big H might side with that.

This is yet another reason why honda will never see me for fluid changes...most techs that handle these small jobs are underpaid and dont give a shit. I've known a few techs from Honda and the minute I ask for something other than an Oil change it is clear to me that I'm better off asking the more prominent members on this site instead.....
 
Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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The whole scenario from start to present doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Now, they are diverting from the real issue. Best to pursue it without the dealer.... they are ready for a run-around... and it will cost you for their incompetence.
 
Old Feb 2, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Thanks to the peeps for info about calling Honda seems this is getting better. Talked with a lady and she was all for me. Seems she called the dealer and they are more then willing now to get this problem under control. Thanks again peeps
 
Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by poohhill
Thanks to the peeps for info about calling Honda seems this is getting better. Talked with a lady and she was all for me. Seems she called the dealer and they are more then willing now to get this problem under control. Thanks again peeps
Great news!
 
Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Most often the right phone call to the right person can make a huge difference.

Good for you for making it - freaks like to help freaks.
 



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