08 fit sport auto
current mods:
muffler delete "mod"
short ram intake


Intake manifold(Weapon R) Vs. FlashPro
I bought the car as a daily commute, but I fell in love with it. started to tinker with it and now im hooked. Yes there is many and plenty of cars I could have gotten but this is what I have. Ive chosen concentrate my goals to having a car that can be driven every day yet I can take it to the local autocross events and have fun, suspension is on its way, so are the brake rotors and premium pads, even brake lines. Yes I know its an auto but hey what can I do now lol.
I honestly think that the flashpro would be the better of the two, but ive looked into the manifold as well. What do you guys/gals think?
also maybe fitfreaks may have any connects on a decent price on a flashpro or manifold? looking to buy before the years end.

 

flashpro!!! the manifold wont give you as much usable power as the flashpro can

 

Flashpro because you should have that before you start modifying. That way, as you add stuff you can tweak you map to optimize your additions.

Sorry if that reads like an elementary school "fill in the blank" answer lol

 

flashpro should be your first mod

 

850 for flash pro and up to two hours of a base dyno tune, sound like a good deal?

 

If that is flashpro that you can keep and continue to mess with, yes, $850 is a great deal for flashpro purchase and 2 hours of tuning.


I however, would grab that deal only after you have purchased a header and intake, so that they will use those 2 hours of tuning to great advantage to you!!

 

A flash pro will bet you gains on even a stock l15.

Intake manifold/header/etc won't.

 

Ok well I just orderd some headers I already have a short ram intake. I decided on leaving the muffler delete special instead of installing a legit axle back, honnestly I feel like adding a exhaust "can" would give that fart can sound.

 

Note: I get to keep the flash pro/ tunning files It would be dumb for a 700 flash

 

We're in the same boat man. Debating on another bolt-on part (like an intake manifold) or... getting Flash Pro. Part of my hessitation on Flash Pro is getting my car tuned! And tuned properly!!!! I'm not going to just any shop for a "tune" (if I go Flash Pro). It would be a shop with a proven record of tuning the Flash Pro and doing so with the Honda Fit. On the flip side... most bolt on parts I can do at home. So I'm still pacing back and forth on this.

Some members on here have mentioned worth wile gains with Flash Pro and my guess is they wouldn't be feeding people BS but this is the "inter-web". lol

 

Late to the thread BUT... Flash Pro first then your other preferred mods. Why? Usually by just installing any part be it a header, short ram/cold air intake, mid-pipe, test pipe, etc. may INITIALLY give you (or feels like) a bump in performance... till the ECU/PCM adjusts its long term fuel trims and/or timing to compensate in attempt to get things back in a "factory like" spec.

Running Flash Pro for example will allow you to tune your Fit to take advantage of the improved exhaust flow from the header you've installed (if installed), will allow you to adjust your fuel trim and ignition timing to help take advantage of the intake manifold you're considering installing (if you get one), and even bump up your rev limit and top speed limiter in the process if you'd like.

Long story short, Flash Pro is a powerful and versatile engine management tool that'll assist in engine tuning and diagnostics be it in stock, simple bolt ons, or an all out boosted application. In addition to that, it allows you 2 hours of data logging as well as being able to see and tune your engine LIVE, I.E. while running, which very nice since you can do a part throttle tuning as well which helps in terms of drivablity.

I personally have Flash Pro on my A/T GD3 with just a Spoon N1 axle back (for now) and have been running a lightly changed stock Fit base map for almost 10 months now while running 93 octane. This little bastard actually feels like it pulls (... for a 1.5L single cam) in 3rd and 4th gear once I start creeping pass 4k RPMs; where as without it, there wasn't a noticeable transition in power so to speak.

PLUS, M/T's get to use Launch Control and A/T Sports (not sure about Bases) have sort of a "dual map" ECU/PCM function. What I've noticed with mine, I can flat foot 1st and 2nd while in D and S with the transmission shifting itself and it will shift itself at its factory shift points just before redline. The same is true when using the paddles in D if memory serves me right... In S "Manual" mode, if you changed the rev limit for example the car will indeed rev all the way to that limit you set it at and ignore the 6.5k limit in the other modes.

Anyway, the question isn't... "Why should you get Flash Pro"... It should be, "Why shouldn't you get Flash Pro?"

 

twisting my arm bit by bit Hootie

Thanks for the general info. That was a good, clean and simple explanation.

 

You're welcome.

Now just do it, its only money.

 

Flashpro definitely the way to go. Then when you feel the need for boost you have your engine management covered already. I recently picked up my flashpro and am having it e-tuned.

 

Ill post numbers after saturday to show some results, ive talked to the guy who is going to tune the car. This shop is a authorized dealer from hondatas website, mak-speed in temecula ca. They seem to be aware of proper tuning abilites since most of his work pertains to dealing with k series engines. All I can say, im excited lol

 

The lack of a flashpro was THE major hold back in regards to GD# mods. I was talking to Ben at AJ Racing yesterday and he said they would still be making many of there parts if the Hondata was available 2 years ago. While the piggyback systems kind of worked this is the holy grail of retuning for the GD3.

 

Just wondering how the install and tune went?

I've finally decided to shop around for a FlashPro. Hope to get one soon!

 

FlashPro HANDS DOWN!!!

I am now up over 15+whp from the first re flash.

I had done Shifting at 7.5K is FUN

Launch control is super addicting

I also retain 32-36MPG running on 91 pump gas

2 other guy's in my group have one, one of which is a Sport AT and he LOVES IT. All he did was remove the speed limiter and change the RPM limits. Got him a new map soon though so he can REALLY see what it's good for.

I WOULD NOT put a manifold on the car without a FlashPro as that will SERIOUSLY effect VE and might run OK till the ECU re learns and attempts to compensate. Remember, the stock ECU is TOO smart and will attempt to re tune to set AFR's per certain ranges and will nerf any bolt on mods.

With I/H/E and IK-22's I was <90whp... Worse of than most Fit's STOCK

Just by re trimming fuel I gained 8whp

Especially if you intend to AutoX or keep the car any period of time, I cannot recommend enough getting a solid tune on it!!!

 

Update: I have not had one day off or enough time to drive . Up to Temecula to get my tune, luckily the guy has his hands full so it kinda works out. Work has me like a slave but its our busy season with three large projects going on at once.

 

So if the ECU detunes itself after bolt ons, then this obviously is the best mod to get first. Since it uses the OBDII port tho, does that mean you can't use the ultragauge?