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FitStir 12-19-2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by mightyjoefit (Post 1215577)
i did some searching and a lot of reading...the two ecu's are pretty much completely different. although both generations share the same engine with no changes between the two, honda felt the need to change the internals/wiring of the 2nd gen ecu's.

Are you sure about that?
I thought the GD3 (1.5L versions) had the L15A1, and the GE8 (1.5L versions) is L15A7.
Similar but different variations.

mightyjoefit 12-19-2013 04:03 PM

your right, gd had vtec and ge got ivtec. i forgot about that....man, im bout to go back to my bread and butter OBD1 civics. lol OBD2 stuff is a pain in the ass.

Off to do more reading...

mightyjoefit 12-21-2013 07:48 PM

ok, i just did some comparisons with different ecu's as far as m/t vs a/t i.d.'s.

Heres what i found:

2009-2011's all start with RP3-xxx(i found 1-2 exceptions which were in the 12'-13' fits, i excluded them to cut down on some confusion).

This is where it gets confusing...
09'-11' ecus with RP3-A03(or A04) are m/t.
09-11' ecus with RP3-A53(or A54, A63, A64 & A75) are a/t (or atleast what i found).

The even more confusing part...
Theres also 3 letters just under the RP3-xxx. The letters "FXU" were found only on m/t ecus that i found and are a confirmed m/t fit.
The a/t ecus seem to use anything but "FXU" that i found and are a confirmed a/t fit. Ex. of such a/t ecu's- FEY, FEX, F93, FFX.

Now, this may be info you already know but i didn't see any postings of such findings. As far as breaking down the above ecu's into where they are from I.e.- uk, asian, u.s., ect. I havent gotten too deep into that yet. But, im still looking. Hopefully i didnt make a fool of myself. Im a pro at obd1's and obd2A's...this witchcraft obd2B mess is just wrong. lol

Wanderer. 12-23-2013 09:31 PM

Realized today I need this to remove the speed governer. Topped out at 120, need NOS, two of the big ones. But won't help with the governer there. Meh.

Any other ways around this?

*hypothetical situation

mightyjoefit 12-24-2013 12:08 PM

unplug the vss...but then you wont know how fast your going.

p.s.- the tuna, no crust, is still crappy. :)

Wanderer. 12-24-2013 02:04 PM

Ohhhh speed sensor? Could I add a different speedo somehow or I guess I could just use GPS! But then my odometer won't work right?

I like the tuna here.

1SickVeilsideZ 12-24-2013 03:28 PM

120 in the fit? I don't think I've ever gone past 85 lol!


"...Bull $hiet a$$hole no one likes the tuna here!..."

13fit 12-24-2013 04:54 PM

Well, the GE8 has nice short gearing in the manual transmission. I think its rated to 138mph at redline in 5th if it wasnt speed-governed.


Dont unplug your VSS, your vtec solenoid wont activate.

EDIT Im told that honda did the vtec scenario just like its old cars, wont hit vtec if cold, low oil pressure, or if vss is disconnected

Wanderer. 12-24-2013 05:11 PM

Oh... Well I need dat VTAK so I guess that's not an option. Thanks for that input 13fit.

Gonna run the salt flats lol nah this is just hypothetical talk.

FitStir 01-02-2014 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by 1SickVeilsideZ (Post 1216205)
120 in the fit? I don't think I've ever gone past 85 lol!

:yeahthat:



Originally Posted by Wanderer. (Post 1216220)
Oh... Well I need dat VTAK so I guess that's not an option.

You don't need no stinkin vtak.... You need a long straight runway (if we didn't have a limiter). :D


But seriously isn't our i-VTEC geared for more of fuel economy? iirc, Peak torque occurs right before vtec engagement (~5.2-5.3k)...

13fit 01-02-2014 09:17 AM

we dont have true i-Vtec

We have good oldfashioned cam profile vtec like the old hondas

Our roller setup, small bore, and big stroke (for size) is why we make decent power and still be efficient. It is also why people can get good numbers out of bolt ons.

Wanderer. 01-02-2014 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by FitStir (Post 1217170)
:yeahthat:


You don't need no stinkin vtak.... You need a long straight runway (if we didn't have a limiter). :D


But seriously isn't our i-VTEC geared for more of fuel economy? iirc, Peak torque occurs right before vtec engagement (~5.2-5.3k)...

I'd like the runway to be on the shorter side rather than longer, so VTEC would be nice to have. GE8 VTEC is legitimate VTEC with a high cam. The GD has economy oriented setup like VTEC-E.


So I may have had an Apex'i RSM fall out of the sky. I know you can disable the speed cut on some vehicles with it, not sure if it'd work with the GE Fit? I can't find anything online but I know the GD is included in the manual, but it predates the GE. Anyone with info or should I start a new thread?


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