A/C Vent Temperatures
#21
Two things I noticed in our new FIT. Window tint helped some, but with it parked side-by-side with our small Hyundai, the inside of the FIT heats up much faster and gets much hotter. It certainly is a larger cabin and glass area, but I have a feeling that there is very little insulation behind the headliner and that large metal roof is just bringing that heat into the cabin.
Joe
Joe
#22
pbanders,
what was the results of your tests? I am having the same issue and I want to know what to tell my dealer if they start pushing back... My Fit is for my wife, and she is just coming over from Russia. She is dreading the hot summers here in Texas, and I have to get the A/C on her Fit VERY cold for her... so far I have been very unimpressed with the A/C.
what was the results of your tests? I am having the same issue and I want to know what to tell my dealer if they start pushing back... My Fit is for my wife, and she is just coming over from Russia. She is dreading the hot summers here in Texas, and I have to get the A/C on her Fit VERY cold for her... so far I have been very unimpressed with the A/C.
#23
BAT, haven't had time yet, busy with all kinds of things, I'll try to get to it in the next couple of weeks as it really heats up around here. Nothing has changed from my earlier observations. While the Fit A/C may be adequate for other people, for me, here in the desert southwest, it's only good once it's been running 5-10 minutes and you're driving at constant speed (either on city streets or freeway). If you're in traffic or have to accelerate, the compressor cycles and you get vent temperatures that go up to over 70 degrees. It also appears to me that any fan-based cooling of the evaporator (like when you're stopped at a light) is inadequate, causing rising vent temperatures.
I'm going to get mine checked out, but I suspect I'll be told it's "normal" (read: poorly designed and we can't fix it). While I really like my Fit, the poor A/C, high sensitivity to crosswinds, and lack of power in mountain driving are getting me interested in finding something else.
I'm going to get mine checked out, but I suspect I'll be told it's "normal" (read: poorly designed and we can't fix it). While I really like my Fit, the poor A/C, high sensitivity to crosswinds, and lack of power in mountain driving are getting me interested in finding something else.
#24
Add me to the club... have had the Fit for exactly 1 day, and the first thing that strikes me is, this A/C is WEAK. I've owned 5 cars, 3 of them Honda's, and this is definitely the weakest A/C of the lot.
One thing I notice is that with the A/C vents in the full 'up' setting (i.e., all air coming out of the top vents), it is quite strong and acceptable. However, when I set it to split up/down (half upper vents, half lower vents), the upper-central vents get very weak. Much more than I'd expect... not a 50% drop, but rather a 80% drop or so in force. The side upper vents do feel like a 50% drop, consistent with my other 2 Honda's.
Oh well... the A/C I do not like in this car!
One thing I notice is that with the A/C vents in the full 'up' setting (i.e., all air coming out of the top vents), it is quite strong and acceptable. However, when I set it to split up/down (half upper vents, half lower vents), the upper-central vents get very weak. Much more than I'd expect... not a 50% drop, but rather a 80% drop or so in force. The side upper vents do feel like a 50% drop, consistent with my other 2 Honda's.
Oh well... the A/C I do not like in this car!
Last edited by justintime; 06-01-2009 at 10:36 PM.
#27
This is a good tip... but I *really* trust Honda would have put some insulation in the first place if it was the smart thing to do... oh well. I'll take a lookie and see!
#28
Any ways try it leave a drain area so it don't drip on to the fire wall and enjoy the cool air.
#29
As you can imagine, summer temps here in Phoenix challenge most auto A/C systems. I haven't been too impressed with the Fit's so far when the temps go up, as it seems the system does a lot of compressor cycling (on/off/on, with warm air for 1-2 seconds before going cool again).
I've got an A/C vent temp gauge for home use that I will be using to monitor the vent temps the next few days. We just had a "cold spell" for Phoenix, with morning temps of about 50 deg. F today, but it's supposed to be back up to near 90 deg. F by Saturday.
I waited for about 10 minutes before doing a max/min betwwen the A/C and heating system. Blower speed was on setting 1, exterior temp was about 48 deg. F. Minimum temp with the A/C was 35.5 deg. F, max temp with the heat was 156 deg. F.
I'll experiement with blower speeds, and compare these temps to my other cars when I can.
I've got an A/C vent temp gauge for home use that I will be using to monitor the vent temps the next few days. We just had a "cold spell" for Phoenix, with morning temps of about 50 deg. F today, but it's supposed to be back up to near 90 deg. F by Saturday.
I waited for about 10 minutes before doing a max/min betwwen the A/C and heating system. Blower speed was on setting 1, exterior temp was about 48 deg. F. Minimum temp with the A/C was 35.5 deg. F, max temp with the heat was 156 deg. F.
I'll experiement with blower speeds, and compare these temps to my other cars when I can.
#30
The A/C on my 09 is just OK. I have also noticed the cycling, but I'm a hypermiler so I really only use it when my girlfriend is in the car, or I'm driving on the highway. I almost never use it in the city, so I've only noticed the cycling once or twice. I'm in Ohio, so I'll be having a sweltering, humid summer coming to give it a real test. A/C isn't a deal-breaker for me though, most small cars I've been in have crummy A/C, especially my friends Aveo.
#31
I'm going to get mine checked out, but I suspect I'll be told it's "normal" (read: poorly designed and we can't fix it). While I really like my Fit, the poor A/C, high sensitivity to crosswinds, and lack of power in mountain driving are getting me interested in finding something else.
I live in Texas and and like all plains states it's flat as a board. The wind is pretty calm for most of the year too. If I lived in a mountainous region that had lots of crosswinds I would not have purchased a Fit.
#32
I'll put mine to the first real test today, 95 degrees outside.
So far though it has handled high 80 degree weather fine here. Humidity is a bitch here though, so just getting rid of that makes you feel cooler ever if you don't lower the temp much.
So far though it has handled high 80 degree weather fine here. Humidity is a bitch here though, so just getting rid of that makes you feel cooler ever if you don't lower the temp much.
#33
Today it was 93*F here in Chattanooga. My Fit's A/C vent temperature was 43*F without recirculation on, 52*F when stopped. That's 50*F temperature drop across the evaporator cool (40*F when stopped), pretty damn good if you ask me.
#34
how do y'all know the temp of your a/c? is it digital on the Sport? i have a Base and live in Dallas and haven't had any problem with the a/c (yet, errrkkkk).
i always keep my reflective windshield things up anytime i park, and i have really dark tint around the back. hrmm i dunno.
i always keep my reflective windshield things up anytime i park, and i have really dark tint around the back. hrmm i dunno.
#35
how do y'all know the temp of your a/c? is it digital on the Sport? i have a Base and live in Dallas and haven't had any problem with the a/c (yet, errrkkkk).
i always keep my reflective windshield things up anytime i park, and i have really dark tint around the back. hrmm i dunno.
i always keep my reflective windshield things up anytime i park, and i have really dark tint around the back. hrmm i dunno.
we manually check it.
the sport has nothing that tells you.
just get yourself a automobile temp gauge and you will know yours.
#36
For the people dissatisfied with A/C...something that I think will really help is windshield tint...I've been advised against it since it's illegal but it would improve things drastically--70%, maybe just 50% VLT w/ metallic for more heat deflection. I'm sure the cabin temperatures would have a definite drop, the windshield is HUGE!
#38
I live in Phoenix as well. I wonder how well the Fit would do if it had a more powerful engine? Say 130-140 HP. A friend at work as a Civic with the 1800 CC motor and no problem with A/C. Car is blue. I have an older Toyota Tacoma with 2.5 4 cyl and the A/C works very well. However, it does take awhile to cool the interior down, cuz the color is blue. Last time I ever buy that color here in Hot Feenix!
Engine hp not the issue its the hp of the A/C compressor.
Like most manufacturers they use the least powerful compressor they can to not affect mpg too much. But then of course it isn't designed for Phoenix in July and August, or Myrtl Beach then either as the humidity also affects the vent echaust temperature.
#39
This would have to be in the 100*F+ ambient temperature range. A car's A/C evaporator coil cannot operate below 32*F without icing over and plugging up which would stop all cooling.
#40
The A/C clutch would disengage the compressor way before it ever froze up though, haha.