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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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T1R B52 Damper Kit - Honda Fit 09+ (GE8

I have been trolling for parts for my winter buildup, and found these on the T1R catalog site. I figured I would share them with everyone, since noone had mentioned them. Enjoy.

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I would really like to see what the car looks like with these installed, and hear what the ride quality is like.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Alright, so $1500 for T1R coilovers. I'm not trying to create controversy here, but just trying to understand what these will do for the FITs handling. I've never modified a honda or Japanese car for that matter. Just to preface, I've got a set of $1600 single adjustable Koni Coilovers (TCKlineRacing.com) on my BMW M Coupe. The coupe handled well to begin with as compared to the relatively basic daily driver type/nothing special handling of the FIT. Adding the coilovers transformed the coupe into a very track worthy and extremely agile car. I'm not a good enough driver to know it's limits on the track. That's how well the car handles on coilovers.

I guess where I'm going with this is, what can you expect out of a fit with this suspension? Granted it's going to stay relatively slow and underpowered, will you end up with a car you can really push around corners, off ramps, and twisty back roads? I'm sure some wider tires are in order to make more of a difference, but will you be able to take a jug-handle or off-ramp with speeds greater than 30mph and not feel like you are going to roll the FIT? (I may be babying it, but i've got 700 miles on the thing and don't know it's limits yet...I'm still a little timid in it)

I'm hoping the answers are a resounding yes because I'd very much like to keep my driving style the same between my two cars. I feel like I have to back off on the FIT far too much. I know it'll never be a fast car, nor do I intend to track or autocross the thing, but i would like to extract a bit more driving excitement out of it.

lastly, after only paying $12,246 for my car, i almost feel retarded putting $1500 into a suspension. That's nearly 1/6th the car's value...just saying.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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well its 1300 USD...

and as for the bang for buck to get your fit a little more manageable in corners, i'd say why not take it to an autox event or to a road course... learn its limits... it'll only be a fraction of the cost of coilovers...

but i mean... having fun in a car... thats why you have the bmw right?
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dela
well its 1300 USD...

and as for the bang for buck to get your fit a little more manageable in corners, i'd say why not take it to an autox event or to a road course... learn its limits... it'll only be a fraction of the cost of coilovers...

but i mean... having fun in a car... thats why you have the bmw right?
right, you hit the nail on the head. If I'm going to go autocross or race, it's going to be in the coupe with 315HP, coilovers, nice rubber, not the FIT with 117HP. I like the do it once, do it right rule, but maybe a nice sport suspension is all I need. coilovers are probably overkill for me.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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very little horsepower is needed to autocross. and among econoboxes, the fit handles extraordinarily well, heck even among most c class cars it stacks up better than most. and its chuckable from the factory, just not up to the same standards that an M car might be obviously.


the dampers for the gd version made the fit very stiff, but they were also tracked with them and aj won the siphon class with that car.

i'm assuming the ge would be no different.

however they will be coming out with the s type dampers, which can be adjusted for dampening (but not height) and have been reported to make the stiffer, bouncier gd a very comfy daily driver.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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"**We recommend F.8k~12k / R.6k~10k for high performance driving applications. "

at those rates any larger bump your car goes over will slow
down your spoolup...and worsen your braking distance over
rougher roads because your abs will get all excited thinking that
the car is hopping around.

i suppose run their very minimum setup F8/R6, but that is still pretty stiff for a Fit.
keep the damping soft too because the camber and toe doesn't change as much
as other cars.. you dont need to stiffen it up to 'lockdown' the ideal angles.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eldaino
very little horsepower is needed to autocross. and among econoboxes, the fit handles extraordinarily well, heck even among most c class cars it stacks up better than most. and its chuckable from the factory, just not up to the same standards that an M car might be obviously.
Agreed due to there being classes. However, i've already got my money pit modified car...I don't plan on doing the same with the FIT and it's nowhere near the same experience to drive. Anyway, back on topic. Someone be the first to slap these on, do a review, and post some pictures. I was talking to a vendor who was going to give me a deal to do it, I just really don't want to sink $1000+ into a suspension for an econobox daily driver. I do want something that will make it more pleasurable to drive while keeping the ride away from the harsh end of the spectrum. Right now, it leaves a lot to be desired.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fmcfad01
Agreed due to there being classes. However, i've already got my money pit modified car...I don't plan on doing the same with the FIT and it's nowhere near the same experience to drive. Anyway, back on topic. Someone be the first to slap these on, do a review, and post some pictures. I was talking to a vendor who was going to give me a deal to do it, I just really don't want to sink $1000+ into a suspension for an econobox daily driver. I do want something that will make it more pleasurable to drive while keeping the ride away from the harsh end of the spectrum. Right now, it leaves a lot to be desired.


if you are looking to avoid harshness, you should not look into these.

wait until the dampers themselves are available and pair them either with a set of swift springs ro the type s springs that you can get bundled with them.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eldaino
if you are looking to avoid harshness, you should not look into these.

wait until the dampers themselves are available and pair them either with a set of swift springs ro the type s springs that you can get bundled with them.
Are none of the coilovers adjustable? It's been my experience that adjusting compression has better affect on ride than spring selection.
 
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yah, those spring rates are too high for anything 'comfort.'

damping does help but if you want comfort, the approach is to get lower spring rate with higher damp rate. you have a bmw, you should know this.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fmcfad01
right, you hit the nail on the head. If I'm going to go autocross or race, it's going to be in the coupe with 315HP, coilovers, nice rubber, not the FIT with 117HP. I like the do it once, do it right rule, but maybe a nice sport suspension is all I need. coilovers are probably overkill for me.
You are one of the fortunate that have a project car. Currently I won't be adding anything else due to my first mod (the Car Seat), but I do have to say, the fit is a very fun and tossable car. I came from a 270hp 3.5SE Altima to the FIT and have to say, the fit handles as well, if not better in the corners. I have no problems with sharp corners or jughandle/cloverleaf type of on/exit ramps over 30mph. I take Rt 73 from Brandon VT to Sudbury VT and it has alot of twists & turns over a 5 mile run. The fit can be tossed into almost all of them at 60mph stock. The Altima felt really heavy going into those corners.

I'd love to have the fit ride even flatter through the corners but even the way it is, it is one heck of a drive.

~SB
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Light, fun to drive at the limits is how I'd describe the fit.

However, the limits are pretty low compared to other cars designed for performance...
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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The Coupe doesn't sway at all going around anything, so when the FIT does at 30mph, I've been too much of a nancy to push it further. I guess I gotta push my luck a little bit and find out what it can do.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
"**We recommend F.8k~12k / R.6k~10k for high performance driving applications. "

at those rates any larger bump your car goes over will slow
down your spoolup...and worsen your braking distance over
rougher roads because your abs will get all excited thinking that
the car is hopping around.

i suppose run their very minimum setup F8/R6, but that is still pretty stiff for a Fit.
keep the damping soft too because the camber and toe doesn't change as much
as other cars.. you dont need to stiffen it up to 'lockdown' the ideal angles.
Type One Racing :: Suspension & Brakes :: Fit (GE8) :: T1R B52 Damper Kit - Honda Fit 09+ (GE8)

they aren't that high kenchan...

Springs are made out of Cold forming process with standard rates F.6k R.3.2k are equipped with the damper kit for maximum street performance. **We recommend F.8k~12k / R.6k~10k for high performance driving applications.
yup lol. they wouldn't be bad for DD's
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fmcfad01
The Coupe doesn't sway at all going around anything, so when the FIT does at 30mph, I've been too much of a nancy to push it further. I guess I gotta push my luck a little bit and find out what it can do.
Yeah, the stock base tires suck, so do the stock sport tires. It doesn't take much to get to the edge on stock tires in the fit.
 
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Yeah, the stock base tires suck, so do the stock sport tires. It doesn't take much to get to the edge on stock tires in the fit.
ditto on the tires... the dunlops arent much... new stickier tires are def a good upgrade
 
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dela
ditto on the tires... the dunlops arent much... new stickier tires are def a good upgrade
Definately agree. Looking at Potenzas for my TE37's That is top priority before the suspension build. Not to mention it is hard to justify starting a suspension build when the cost for extraneous parts is so high. Cusco sway bars (The only ones I can find at this point) are F'in expensive. Then I figure strut bars, fender braces, x- brace and miscellaneous under body bracing, I am looking at upwards of 6 or 7 grand in suspension alone. On top of that I have to drive down a hilly alley to get to my garage. Don't feel like tearing up expensive parts on crappy roads.

Not trying to be the kid spending the most on the Fit, but I have a vision of perfection. Just wish I had the bankroll to match said vision. And the availability of a supercharger...
 
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Originally Posted by Kittengolf
Definately agree. Looking at Potenzas for my TE37's ..
I dunno which potenzas you are looking for, but read this

unless you are getting the re760, then nm
 

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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I know this thread is a bit old, but I thought I'd chime in on the handling of our GE8. My wife and I both autocrossed our 09 Fit Sport in a local street tire class with the HS index. The only 'mods' we made were a set of stock-legal camber bolts, an alignment and some Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs in 205/50/16 on stock wheels. That's it. We both won our divisions with some very intense competition. Granted, neither of us is 'new' to autocrossing but it goes to show you what a very stock GE8 is capable of.

The FIT handles very well for what it is and I can't wait to put on some adjustable dampers (come on KONI!!!!) to see what it'll do. The sway with the stock spring/damper setup is absolutely atrocious. My club utilizes a banked 1/2 mile oval with a sizeable paved infield for an autocross venue and the club safety stewart almost stopped us from running after he saw our first couple of runs...course workers were complaining that we were gonna tip over!! hahaha Anyhow, the FIT does do a wonderful tricycle impression...that's for sure.

Oh...ours is an automatic, too...so no, it's NOT the ideal autocross rig...lol.

I want an M Coupe in the worst way...I think it'd kick ass in BS autocross...
 
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