There is a big fight here to make the cameras illegal all over the state. Doubt it will succeed, but the policy manual exempting judges, local politicians and any cop owned car from getting tickets really teed a lot of people off. (The "Homelsss Health Insurance Tax" was just in Frisco when they hit me with it.)

 

The real culprit is the citizens. We can vote measures into law all by ourselves over here, so we've been demanding more services and no tax increases.

If you blame Arnold or *the democrats* you're just wasting our time playing out the same old partisan bullshit.

 

secondspassed...I suspect you are right.

 

Well the bush administration left quiet a mess and we are still trying to clean up lol jk...... Serisly gov is too big it's time to have a little less blahhh

 

Wow that is f*%^ed up! In Illinois 84 in a 65 will get you a $75 ticket. 94 in a 65 will get you a $95 fine. Court supervision is offered once every year so 1 ticket a year won't even show on your record for insurance or suspension purposes. California is crazy.

 

It's all about the money, not safety

 

You are right. Politicians and organized labor had nothing to do with forcing all the major corporations to leave the state due to regulation and taxes In case you didn't hear CA just shut the doors on its last auto manufacturing facility (nummi) today. Tickets and stiff fines are due to the failed policies of politicians trickling down to the individuals who are already "taking it in both ends."

By the way, if you get a ticket, learn your rights. Often you are being sited for "unsafe speed," so the question becomes whether or not the speed was safe or not, not if you were over the posted limit. Make sure to ask the officer what he considers the safe speed on that road to be.. if he says 30 and you were going 32, they can't reasonably argue what you were doing was unsafe. Always fight www.ticketassassin.com

 

If the politicians weren't responsible for the high corporate taxes, who was?

 

I'm a motorcop and the first post was not formatted correctly so it was misleading.

Here are the correct sections/fines:

VC 14600(A) $214,-Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 days
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 16028(A) $796 -Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance)
Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the
violation date.
VC 21453(A) $436 -Failure to stop at a red signal.
VC 22350 $214 -Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit
VC 22349 $328 -Unsafe Speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit
VC 22450 $514 -Failure to stop at a stop sign
VC 22454(A) $616 -Passing a school bus with flashing red signals
VC 23123(A) $148 -Driver using wireless phone not hands free, First offense
VC 23123(A) $256 For each subsequent offense
VC 23123.5(A) $148 -Driving while using wireless device to send, read or write text
VC 23124(B) $148 -Minor driver using wireless phone
VC 22500(I) $976 -Parking in a bus loading area
VC 22507.8(A through C) $976 -Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense
VC 22507.8(A through C) $1876 Subsequent offense
VC 26708(A) $178 -Unlawful material on vehicle windows
VC 27150(A and B) $178 -Adequate muffler required
VC 27315(D and E) $148 -Mandatory use of seat belts
VC 27360(A and B) $436-Mandatory use of child passenger restraints. Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program
VC 27400 $178 -Headsets/Earplugs over both ears
VC 27803 (A through C) $178 -Motorcycle safety helmet requirements
VC 34506.3 $616 -Commercial Driver - Log book violation
VC 4000(A) $256 -No evidence of current registration. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction
VC 4159 $178 -Display of license plates. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction

myke

 

thats sooo insane i cant belive what the fcost is for useing your phone<

 

I love California but I'm glad I don't live there! Just wonder how my family who live in El Segundo make it...

 

Yeah, the ocean and beaches are great, but with all the insanity that goes on there...could not live there.

 

Nothing has changed, you guys are a bunch of drama queens. I've been here all my life and you are making traffic fines, which you don't get unless you break a traffic law, an essence to bash a state. This thread should be closed now cause this is just idiotic, if you want to bash the state and not discuss 2nd Gen stuff, off-topic is a little further down.

 

haha seriously, i agree. these aren't mandatory fees; these are fines.

 

Yes, but they only punish the poor. I can afford a speeding ticket so I don't hesitate to speed, but for some people, especialy in states with outrageous fines, that could be the difference between buying groceries or not. As others have said, it's all about money not safety. The state can predict how many people will get tickets and depends on that money for funding.

Besides, my customers from California have more speeding tickets for 10mph or less over than any other state. Around here it is unheard of to get pulled over for less than 10 over. Must be alot of pressure on officers out there to issue citations.

 

If you have a population density like we do, then you would have a similar issue. I have yet to receive a ticket for anything under 15. Pressure? How have you heard of pressure our officers have, I have 2 cousin's in the sheriff's and an uncle in the sheriff's department, they just do their job. Seriously guys? This is just plain dumb. Fines are a deterrence, you don't want to get a ticket don't break the law. How much of a deterrence they are is up to the person receiving them. You can pay for them, so it's no big to you, if it's punishing the poor, maybe they'll learn not to speed.

 

Fair enough, I wouldn't dare blame it on the officers themselves, that would be silly. It's just that, as an outsider, I can't come to terms with how expensive everything is in CA. Your regristration fees, inspections, fines, insurance (thanks to a crazy department of insurance that passes laws that do nothing to benefit the customer), emissions standards, point system, etc. Are all crazy to me. It's just odd to see someone who wouldn't be upset. I guess I see the fines as part of a larger problem. I live in a city that has banned red light cameras, we can find other ways to make money.

 

It's understandable that people are incredulous when they look at our fines, however it serves as a deterrence and in fact our population density and sheer amount of people makes it hard to police. Your state has 1/3rd of the population of documented person's than our state, this doesn't include illegal immigrants so it would probably be higher. I don't like the registration fees, insurances, inspections (smog is waived for first several years on a new car). I don't mind the emissions standards when you have this many cars, it makes it easier to breathe, do you remember what China looked like during the 2008 Olympics, it could be like that. Point system, I agree it's idiotic, red light cameras, a lot of jurisdictions don't even have them anymore.

 

Now that I think of it though, don't you guys have sone of the lowest property taxes in the country?

 

We're in the middle (27th)

The Tax Foundation - State and Local Property Tax Collections Per Capita by State, Fiscal Year 2007