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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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tire rub on lowered fit

i lowered my fit on t1r's and got some new tires after doing so. owning a civic before my fit, i could run any size tire without any rub it seemed. i thought no different with the fit. i was wrong. my stock 185/55R16's didn't rub my fender liners are all. before i lowered my car, i ordered a set of tires, 195/55R16's. at the time, i figured a wider tire would be best, along with a wider sidewall to protect my rims because the city i live in, is retardly riddled with pot holes. never once thought about the tires rubbing. so, i lowered the car, put the new tires on a week later, and well, rub it does. i have 15" steelies that are going on this winter that are the same size(comparatively) to my stock 185's.

my question is does anyone else have this issue? ways to fix this?
i plan to drop down to a 15" rim next summer, to solve this problem, but i'm looking for something now. lol. my inner fenders are taking a shit kicking.

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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raise it back up. not much else you can do if you don't wanna buy new tires.
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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raise it back up. not much else you can do if you don't wanna buy new tires.

on no, theres no going back. shes low, she aint going back up. i'll deal with the rubbing for now. new rims and tires next year. just wondering if anyone has had the same problem or not.
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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what kind of drop are we talking about and are you still on stock rims?
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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What's the point of using taller tires and lowering? That seems counterproductive to me.
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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What's the point of using taller tires and lowering? That seems counterproductive to me.
you don't have to lower as much since the tires are taller...worked perfectly for my car.
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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195/50/16 is the correct size. Your tires are too big around!
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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Well I have 205/45-16 and I'm lowered on Megan coils with no problem and they are on the stock sport wheels
 
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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you don't have to lower as much since the tires are taller...worked perfectly for my car.
I don't follow that logic. Taller tires raise the car. That would mean it would require more lowering.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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I don't follow that logic. Taller tires raise the car. That would mean it would require more lowering.
think wheel gap.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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think wheel gap.
Ah, so it's all about a look rather than the actual ride. I see.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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The problem is that your sidewall is too tall. The second set of numbers in the tire size is the aspect ratio for the sidewall. A 185/55R16 is 24 inches in diameter and the 195/55R16 is 24.4 inches in diameter. Depending on your offset and height you may be able to run the optional wheel's tire size which is 205/50R16 (24.1" diameter) or a smaller and narrower195/50R16 (23.7" diameter).

As for 15s, depending on the wheel's offset, I think a 205/55R15 would be good for your application in the summer. For winter, 185/60R15 should suffice; if I recall correctly, a narrow tire performs better than a wide tire in the snow.

Here is a tire size calculator to help you see what tire sizes are close to the factory size. Tire size calculator
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Ah, so it's all about a look rather than the actual ride. I see.
it's both...I use to ride on 205/40/17. Well I had a pretty good size wheel gap and my car was having serious issues entering/exiting driveways. When I came across any speed bumps even if angled over them I would still scrape. I did some research and decided to up my ratio a bit and I bought some 205/45/17 tires. Now I have the ground clearance I need while still being much lower than stock and my wheel gap is a lot smaller.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Well I have 205/45-16 and I'm lowered on Megan coils with no problem and they are on the stock sport wheels
And you wouldn't with an overall diameter that small. It's .2" shorter in radius than 205/40/17s, which can be utterly slammed.

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Hootie - exactly, thank you. Also, this rubbing issue may be more complicated than we realize. Diameter obviously plays into it, and the path of the wheel does not goes go vertically, so is it possible that the tire is brushing against something along it's path, and not necessarily hitting a point at it's maximum travel point. I'm not lowered so I haven't really seen where it rubs on these cars. However, when the diameter is small enough, the outer edge of the tire could go past the obstruction no matter what, until it hit a more terminal rub spot. Just a theory.

And yes, narrower diameter tires for snow are better. Might as well get tall ones too if you are at stock height (for the added clearance.)
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bmxman
it's both...I use to ride on 205/40/17. Well I had a pretty good size wheel gap and my car was having serious issues entering/exiting driveways. When I came across any speed bumps even if angled over them I would still scrape. I did some research and decided to up my ratio a bit and I bought some 205/45/17 tires. Now I have the ground clearance I need while still being much lower than stock and my wheel gap is a lot smaller.
At least visually, I'm finding among members who've lowered and added rims, that 17/45s look best on regular lowering springs and 17/40s with coils. Even though the 45s would probably rub slammed like that, but still, 40s with a mild drop look kind of small.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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yeah my 45's rub a bit I need to have the front fenders pulled just a little.
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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roll your fenders sandblasted!
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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You could fit 205/50's on your stockers with no problems and no rubbing.

Have you thought of that?
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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go to a body shop and get a quote for fender rolling. they should use a rolling tool coupled with a heat gun so your paint doesn't chip. problem solved.... till you go lower or get wider wheels
 
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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The fit is already enough low stock imo. I put 185-60-14 tires (from my civic) for auto-x, and sometimes the car (just a plastic trim in the front but still) rub on the ground (in parking entrances mostly), with stock suspension.
 



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