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Joined: Apr 2011
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From: NY
Ha! I must be confusing the two....but I find the wipers just fine with the 3 settings: super fast for those downpours, slow for rain, and then in "pause" mode for those misty days......
Yeah I think you're confusing the two. We have intermittent wipers, but not variable speed intermittent wipers. So we can't control that delay between wipes.
But like most of the options I want there's a mod for it ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html
The part # is:
Also, if I remember correctly some (if not all) AT owners couldn't do this mod b/c of some missing the connector by the fuse box. So afaik it might not work for all GE's (so glad I got the MT Navi, just don't have time this summer to do the mod yet)
But like most of the options I want there's a mod for it ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html
The part # is:
As for the heated side mirrors, Canada has them as an option, but not available in the US. Some have ordered the heated mirror element from Canada, and wired em up to the rear def.
Another mod I will be doing, but I'm holding off till I get the auto-fold mechanisms as well, and then install them all at the same time. Probably will add the reverse mirror tilt function as well. ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ml#post1008018
Another mod I will be doing, but I'm holding off till I get the auto-fold mechanisms as well, and then install them all at the same time. Probably will add the reverse mirror tilt function as well. ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ml#post1008018
Yeah I think you're confusing the two. We have intermittent wipers, but not variable speed intermittent wipers. So we can't control that delay between wipes.
But like most of the options I want there's a mod for it ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html
The part # is:
Also, if I remember correctly some (if not all) AT owners couldn't do this mod b/c of some missing the connector by the fuse box. So afaik it might not work for all GE's (so glad I got the MT Navi, just don't have time this summer to do the mod yet)
But like most of the options I want there's a mod for it ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html
The part # is:
Also, if I remember correctly some (if not all) AT owners couldn't do this mod b/c of some missing the connector by the fuse box. So afaik it might not work for all GE's (so glad I got the MT Navi, just don't have time this summer to do the mod yet)
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Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,421
From: Upstate New York
I HATE sunroofs/moonroofs. I really don't get why some people like 'em. It's one more thing to go wrong (malfunction, leaking, etc.), and they increase the road noise in a car, even with the sliding part closed. And the decrease temperature insultation, even with the sliding part closed. It's hot and sunny here in Dallas; I spend a lot of time staying away from the sun. I sure as heck don't wanna give it more opportunity to intrude into my car! In fact, when looking at larger cars to buy earlier this year, a main reason I didn't find one to buy is that in order to get lumbar support and/or power adjustable driver's seats, you almost always had to get a sunroof/moonroof.
As for colors, I always buy white cars. Those cool colors you like because they're so different? That also means that many other people won't wanna buy your car, when you go to sell it. That translates into a lower resale value. White cars are fairly easy to sell; most people will buy a white car, even if that's not their first choice. White cars don't show dents as much as colors and dark cars, or dirt and dust. Plus it helps in a hot climate. There are tons of white cars here, so yeah, they are very common. Which means a lot of people will be interested in a white car for sale.
The Fit is one of those cute cars, though, that WOULD look good in a funky color. If I weren't going to sell my Fit in a couple of years, I would've considered a color other than white (but nothing really funky). The Fit looks good in red, which is a basic color. The dark gray (not silver) is a pretty color, but somehow it doesn't look right on a cute car like the Fit.
As for colors, I always buy white cars. Those cool colors you like because they're so different? That also means that many other people won't wanna buy your car, when you go to sell it. That translates into a lower resale value. White cars are fairly easy to sell; most people will buy a white car, even if that's not their first choice. White cars don't show dents as much as colors and dark cars, or dirt and dust. Plus it helps in a hot climate. There are tons of white cars here, so yeah, they are very common. Which means a lot of people will be interested in a white car for sale.
The Fit is one of those cute cars, though, that WOULD look good in a funky color. If I weren't going to sell my Fit in a couple of years, I would've considered a color other than white (but nothing really funky). The Fit looks good in red, which is a basic color. The dark gray (not silver) is a pretty color, but somehow it doesn't look right on a cute car like the Fit.
White cars don't show dirt or scratches, but they DO show rust worse than any other color, and here in NY, that's a major consideration unless you plan to trade cars every two years or so. FWIW, I think trading cars every two years is foolish. You end up eating the depreciation, while somebody else gets a nice two year old car in an unoffensive color. I buy one new car every 7-8 years and drive it into the ground. If I didn't have to deal with salt and rust, I'd probably keep the car longer, so ease of resale is way down my list. Heck, my Harley is 18 year old, and I plan to keep it for the rest of my life (the Harley IS white, however
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Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Bethesda, MD
Ok... need to read through the message board more, but could anyone tell me if you can purchase the panoramic roof aftermarket (Genuine Honda Part)? Has it been determined that these roofs aren't available in the U.S. because they don't pass U.S. roll-over tests?
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From: Georgia
The panoramic roof isn't available from honda USA. You can always get a large aftermarket sunroof (moonroof?).
I don't know if it changes the structural integrity of the car; the Fit's roof is really thin sheet-metal. Depends on what's between it and the headliner. I suspect that plexiglass is stronger. Honda did make structural changes for the US market, notably a longer nose with greater crush space, so it's possible the clear roof didn't make the cut.
Reports from Euros that have one indicate it makes the interior hotter.
I think it's more a question of marketing. Either the market won't pay for it here, or it would cost sales of the more profitable civics and accords here in the states.
I don't know if it changes the structural integrity of the car; the Fit's roof is really thin sheet-metal. Depends on what's between it and the headliner. I suspect that plexiglass is stronger. Honda did make structural changes for the US market, notably a longer nose with greater crush space, so it's possible the clear roof didn't make the cut.
Reports from Euros that have one indicate it makes the interior hotter.
I think it's more a question of marketing. Either the market won't pay for it here, or it would cost sales of the more profitable civics and accords here in the states.
afaik it's never been determined why not.... Probably due to the crash testing, could also be the cost.
It probably could be done, but there will be a lot of cutting, and customization to get it to work, and you'd also have to get complete parts list.
from Dave's sticky thread (top of this forum)---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ts-thread.html
Seriously it doesn't seem worth it to get a panoramic roof which doesn't open (only the shade is retractable)
For a lot less you can get an aftermarket sun/moonroof, even a giant panoramic one that opens. ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...c-sunroof.html
The view from inside is unbelievable.
It probably could be done, but there will be a lot of cutting, and customization to get it to work, and you'd also have to get complete parts list.
from Dave's sticky thread (top of this forum)---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ts-thread.html
For a lot less you can get an aftermarket sun/moonroof, even a giant panoramic one that opens. ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...c-sunroof.html
The view from inside is unbelievable.
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8
From: England
New Euro Jazz EX owner (UK Jazz = US Fit)
Pick up my late 2008 Deep Sapphire Blue Pearl Jazz EX on Wednesday 21st. Can't wait. 
It has all the toys except the heated leather seats that come in the range-topping EXL - and built in satnav, which I didn't want anyway. I prefer to be able to upgrade using a separate plug-in type. It does have the 'Premium upgrade' pack though - stainless sill step covers, rigid moulded mud flaps and body coloured side rubbing strips. (I didn't realise these were options until after I'd bought the car
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The panoramic roof is fixed and has special glass to reduce heat build-up but the car has aircon and climate control too. There is a fully progressive electric blind inside that looks just like normal roof padding. (Progressive meaning you can open it to any degree, there are no fixed stages.)
The jury's out on the 16" alloys. They look great but it's too early to say whether they will make the ride harsher - but since I haven't tried one with 15" alloys will I ever know?
Anyway, love the forum and some of the modded cars, although apart from the wheels maybe, ours will stay stock. We have two modified MX5's to play with as well though.
It has all the toys except the heated leather seats that come in the range-topping EXL - and built in satnav, which I didn't want anyway. I prefer to be able to upgrade using a separate plug-in type. It does have the 'Premium upgrade' pack though - stainless sill step covers, rigid moulded mud flaps and body coloured side rubbing strips. (I didn't realise these were options until after I'd bought the car
)The panoramic roof is fixed and has special glass to reduce heat build-up but the car has aircon and climate control too. There is a fully progressive electric blind inside that looks just like normal roof padding. (Progressive meaning you can open it to any degree, there are no fixed stages.)
The jury's out on the 16" alloys. They look great but it's too early to say whether they will make the ride harsher - but since I haven't tried one with 15" alloys will I ever know?
Anyway, love the forum and some of the modded cars, although apart from the wheels maybe, ours will stay stock. We have two modified MX5's to play with as well though.
Refigerated glove box too
or maybe to keep the baseball cap in, for you in the U.S 
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Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Georgia
Baseball cap? I think I'd use it to keep guinness fresh. Do they still come with a widget?
What do you think the ratio of manual transmission Fits is to automatics in the UK? Here I think it's about 90% autos.
What do you think the ratio of manual transmission Fits is to automatics in the UK? Here I think it's about 90% autos.
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From: England
Guinness - of course! I've got some in the fridge and yes, they do come with widgets.
Looking online, 551 manual cars for sale compared to 200 automatics. That's actually very high for automatic transmissions as generally we prefer to connect with our cars through the gear shift
Speaks volumes for the CVT transmission. The I-shift introduced with the GE was not well liked though, Honda quickly reverting to the CVT box.
Looking online, 551 manual cars for sale compared to 200 automatics. That's actually very high for automatic transmissions as generally we prefer to connect with our cars through the gear shift
Speaks volumes for the CVT transmission. The I-shift introduced with the GE was not well liked though, Honda quickly reverting to the CVT box.
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Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Georgia
Guinness - of course! I've got some in the fridge and yes, they do come with widgets.
Looking online, 551 manual cars for sale compared to 200 automatics. That's actually very high for automatic transmissions as generally we prefer to connect with our cars through the gear shift
Speaks volumes for the CVT transmission. The I-shift introduced with the GE was not well liked though, Honda quickly reverting to the CVT box.
Looking online, 551 manual cars for sale compared to 200 automatics. That's actually very high for automatic transmissions as generally we prefer to connect with our cars through the gear shift
Speaks volumes for the CVT transmission. The I-shift introduced with the GE was not well liked though, Honda quickly reverting to the CVT box.
I don't know why Honda doesn't sell Fits with CVTs here. The tech is offered on the Insight, and other makes, notably Nissan has it on all models. Might be a marketing thing. We've lived with automatics all our lives and they always shifted; maybe the US market doesn't like CVTs outside of hybrids. Is "I-shift" in the UK the 5 speed automatic box?
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From: England
I think it was.
The characteristics of the I-shift didn't suit the smaller engines but most end users and the motoring pundits seem to agree that the CVT and 1.4i VTEC engine is the perfect combination and gives seamless changes and is 'always in the right gear'. The I-shift seemed to be indecisive and forever 'hunting' - shifting between gears and never quite happy with the one it found. It didn't make for happy Jazz drivers
I think for the US market maybe the converse is true and that the CVT gearbox may not suit the characteristics of the 1.5? - but you may know otherwise. I don't know of the Insight - and of course different manufacturers CVT transmissions will be built to match their own engines.
The characteristics of the I-shift didn't suit the smaller engines but most end users and the motoring pundits seem to agree that the CVT and 1.4i VTEC engine is the perfect combination and gives seamless changes and is 'always in the right gear'. The I-shift seemed to be indecisive and forever 'hunting' - shifting between gears and never quite happy with the one it found. It didn't make for happy Jazz drivers
I think for the US market maybe the converse is true and that the CVT gearbox may not suit the characteristics of the 1.5? - but you may know otherwise. I don't know of the Insight - and of course different manufacturers CVT transmissions will be built to match their own engines.
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From: Vermont, USA
They would certainly not be plug and play for the normal USDM Fits, even if Honda sold the EV parts (which I think they are not doing, as they are only leasing the EV Fits, rather than selling the cars outright). The manual climate controls in the US Fits are pretty much completely mechanical; turning the knobs moves various baffles in the ductwork to direct the air in different ways. Any of the electronic control setups would require reworking or replacement of various other parts of the HVAC system to operate.
The actual control switches might be plug-and-play replacements for the automatic climate controls on non-EV Fits/Jazzes in the parts of the world where they're available, even though there are some significant differences in the rest of the system. (A non-EV fit wouldn't have an electric heater, for example.) They could also be unique to the EV model for all I know.
The actual control switches might be plug-and-play replacements for the automatic climate controls on non-EV Fits/Jazzes in the parts of the world where they're available, even though there are some significant differences in the rest of the system. (A non-EV fit wouldn't have an electric heater, for example.) They could also be unique to the EV model for all I know.