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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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2012 AT for the Highway Not MT

After doing some research it sounds like the MT "race" at highway speeds of 60+ mph with the rpm at 7000 in 5th gear. At that point it should be in 6th gear but of course that doesnt exist.

I dont hear this complaint with the AT on the highway.

So is the MT good for drivers who spend less time on the highway and the AT for drivers who spend more time on the highway?

Fair conclusion?

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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RPM on the freeway doesn't matter. manual transmission fits get better mileage, city or highway.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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RPM on the freeway doesn't matter. manual transmission fits get better mileage, city or highway.
QFT

RPM is at 4k above 65mph. Doesn't matter.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Some say the MT sounds like its going to explode at 65+ mph.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Some say the MT sounds like its going to explode at 65+ mph.
those same people don't know what they're talking about.

honda is a lot smarter than "those people". They spent a lot of time and money figuring out the best gearing for their car.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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manual transmission fits get better mileage, city or highway.
R U sure? My last two Honda A/T's had Direct Couple (lockup) torque converters that take all of the torque converter slip out in the higher gears. For years to get top mileage you had to go with a M/T...not sure if that is the case anymore? Honda claims the FIT A/T gets better fuel mileage than the FIT M/T to the tune of 2 Mpg with the Base and 1 Mpg with the Sport. I just purchased my '12 FIT Sport A/T and I haven't determined if it has a DC torque converter yet, but being a Honda I would say yes

2012 Honda Fit - Specifications - Official Site

 

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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maybe on a dyno. but in real life, MT wins
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Thank you YouKant
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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maybe on a dyno. but in real life, MT wins
What you have there is an opinion, not a fact. Real life doesn't run on opinions.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Rpms are higher but so far I have made 2 road trips with my mt using the cruise between 65 and 70 and I still managed 36 mpg, I have a 38 mpg average after 10 fill ups and 2800 miles
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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Did you just mistype in your first post, 60+mph and 7000rpm? The L15A in the GE is not going to blow up at stock rev limits, unless the person misshifts on a downshift and skyrockets the rpms beyond the revlimiter and even then it may not pop.

And have to agree with solbrothers, whoever said it sounds like it is going to explode really has not a clue what they are talking about. At 190km/h sustained running mine sits at about 6000rpm if I remember correctly, I don't ever really look at the tachometer.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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As an owner of a 2009 Fit Sport AT and now the owner of a 2012 Fit Sport MT I'd like to chime in. The Fit AT was a good, versatile car but it just wasn't very fun to drive. I debated this for a few years and finally decided to just sell it and buy the MT. It's like night and day, the MT is so much more fun to drive and I actually like the purr of the engine more then the AT's. The AT is the one that whines when you try to gun it on the highway, the MT sounds like a nice vtech engine revving up. I have no regrets getting the MT and if others are debating which one to get, I'd definitely recommend getting the MT hands down.
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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has your fuel economy changed?
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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has your fuel economy changed?

I assuming you're asking me.. but no, it really hasn't changed much. I was averaging 33-35 mpg in 50/50 highway & city driving in the AT and I put 278 miles on the new car so far and filled it up today with 8 gallons. So that averages out to be 34.8 mpg. I'm actually surprised b/c I drive the MT a little harder then the AT since it's so much more fun to zip in and out of traffic. I spent all days modding it today and can't wait to go to work tomorrow so I can drive it some more. lol
 
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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The M/T are clearly more fun to drive if your into shifting, I got my first A/T in '74 and never looked back...now having said that, when I drove off-road in one of my CJ-5's it was a T-14 and nothing else
When I'm driving home after working all day I want to relax, so I don't have any problems with the A/T. Now when I want to do something "Sporty" I go for a spin on my GSX650F and have some real fun!

 

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Originally Posted by Sooner97
As an owner of a 2009 Fit Sport AT and now the owner of a 2012 Fit Sport MT I'd like to chime in. The Fit AT was a good, versatile car but it just wasn't very fun to drive. I debated this for a few years and finally decided to just sell it and buy the MT. It's like night and day, the MT is so much more fun to drive and I actually like the purr of the engine more then the AT's. The AT is the one that whines when you try to gun it on the highway, the MT sounds like a nice vtech engine revving up. I have no regrets getting the MT and if others are debating which one to get, I'd definitely recommend getting the MT hands down.
I agree completely. So many here make assumptions that because the MT has shorter gearing that it is so loud on the highway. I hear no difference. It's quiet at 65-70 mph. Around 80 you hear the faint droning. Turn up the tunes if you think it's loud. And yes, the MT transforms the character of the Fit almost completely. Feels different, sounds different, different experience. Add the Dunlops which have a stiffer sidewall than the Bridgestones and your handling is better too.
 
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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Go for a set of Conti DWS 205/50/16's and you'll see/feel/hear a world of difference.


So is the MT good for drivers who spend less time on the highway and the AT for drivers who spend more time on the highway?

Fair conclusion?
fstyle your conclusion is not fair. Either/Or... The preference seems most often to boil down to the individuals ability to be able to drive an M/T. There have been a fair share of new M/T drivers on the forum who have reached out for help. Most folks have never driven anything but an automatic for the simple reason they don't want to bother. A/T car sales far exceed M/T sales across the board.

If you're serious in the conclusion then I would say it makes no difference. I drive frequent 400mile trips and am very pleased with my 2010 Sport M/T. What DID make a difference was getting good tires. Continental DWS 205/50/16's. Road noise is down considerably and road noise far exceeds the engine noise at speed.

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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 01:58 AM
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AT on Highway and Higher MPG

Originally Posted by YouKantPimpInaKIA
When I'm driving home after working all day I want to relax, so I don't have any problems with the A/T. Now when I want to do something "Sporty" I go for a spin on my GSX650F and have some real fun!
Good point. With the MT you always have to get behind the wheel and work.

Plus the Federal Government gives the AT better MPG. I'm not sure about Consumer Reports.
 
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 04:19 AM
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yeah because when i drive, i dont want to have to pay attention to anything

 
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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yeah because when i drive, i dont want to have to pay attention to anything
Not shifting has nothing to do with not paying attention. So what your saying is your a better driver because you have to pay attention to the shifter?....Ha!
 

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