If you honestly think parts are expensive for Fits....you should probably stop modding cars. Fit parts are crazy cheap.

But I paid 845 for d2 coils bro. I'm just now paying off the three Indian reservation pay day loans at 79.9% interest rate. Still feel like a gotta good deal tho.

:rotfl: Thats a dumb statement

I think because the aftermarket company who used to offer parts for GD do NOT able to sell as much as what they hope,
they then realized that most of Honda Fit buyer (in US) would NOT spent too much on aftermarket parts.
so when the GE came out,
they think it would not be wise to offer aftermarket stuff for GE (In US market based on what they had sold for GD).
still if you really want to buy aftermarket parts for GE,
you can always buy directly from Japan,
and there are tons of aftermarket parts for GE there.

Times 1000000000000 :yeahthat:

Actually, the GE aftermarket is pretty good. I have owned some cars where everything was custom, even the springs that I had to order from Australia.

Other than turbo kits, s/c kits, and direct fit tuning solutions, we have everything else available.

Once Hondata is released for the GE, you will see more in the way of turbo and s/c kits.

I will also say that once the next gen Fit rolls out (2014/2015) and the price of the GEs go down a bit more, you will see alot more demand for the GE as "young" buyers will get a used GE and want to mod them. Once this happens and manufacturers from Japan focus on the new car, the aftermarket prices for the GE will drop, similar to what I've seen for the GD. Its just a cycle now. The GEs are just a bit too new for the prices to drop to a better level. This will change with the introduction of the next gen Fit.

^ I look forward to that happening.

Honda sell roughly 50k Fits a year in the US. and it is a 16,000 dollar vehicle. Compared to 200k civics. If it takes10,000 to develop a part that will sell for say 250.00 and you margin is 100.00 you need to sell 100 just to recoup R&D costs. So if 1-2% of owners mod your odds of making any kind of profit is severely limited.


Plus you can find an EG or EK hatch for 2 grand put 5k into it over a few years and have a clean ride for 7-8 grand. and the cars have had 10 plus years of development. Outside of a full engine swap you are pretty limited with the built in manifold. GD's are limited by the amount of head work that can be done. But the world had a 5 year head start on building products before the car hit the states

100% Correct on the basic stats of why part production was so limited!

Curious about this though... Are you referring to how thin the head gets if ported on the L15A1 and the associated cooling issues? Otherwise... most of the valve train is available to be upgraded. Other than no confirmed direct fit cam gears, and the time lag to either get a cam/regrind you can totally "work the head" :p

This doesn't apply to you, Connor, because you have jdm parts anyway. :P

Well there is a fair amount of work that can be done to the bottom end but having the corresponding top end done can be limiting. And unless you are doing it to do it you atart getting into kswap cost quite quickly. I am surprised there are not Fi kits for the GD unless the manifold causes such a limitation that people aren't going to pay 3000 fora 120hp kit.

Still confused...:confused:

True, if you start building a motor it will = $$$$. But the titanium retainers, springs, and cams for the GD engine, even if bought through some place like Bi$imoto are still less than most other builds. Heck, you can get a whole L15A1 for less than $700 from a wrecker. Parts will be something like $2K, it's just the labor that will be expensive.

Compare that to the average $10+K cost of a K swap... Sure the K is better, and will have FAR more potential. But the initial $ investment is higher.

Also, there were plenty of FI kit's for the GD. HKS, GReddy, T1R, Kraftwerks... And they were all around $3K or so. They made about 130+- whp.

I agree that $ to peak HP is low.. but they still are around a 40% bump in power over a base car!!! With injectors, exhaust and a Hondata people are easily into 160+whp. 200+whp FI GD Fits exist, including autos.

I do not see how the head (of the GD L15 anyway) is a limiting factor at all.

The turbo comment was for the GE's. And you are correct in the other regard.

I would think rods would be the limiting factor before the head ever was on an L15, they're tiny. I wouldn't think the head flow would be a huge issue until you got to some big numbers?

I'm just talking out my ass. :nod:

If I recall correctly GD3kamiwanaB was limited by his rods when he first pushed the limits of the L15.

You are correct, I have that thread bookmarked.

Damn, I haven't looked at that thread in four or five years and I still got it.

#OGFitFreak

LOL for sure #OGFitFreak

Yep, rods in the GD are WEAK. According to GD3kamiwanaB 10PSI is the limit on a stock block, and even then plug gaps better be checked often.

They did revise and strengthen the rods in the L15A7....And Lyon[Nightroad] was still able to blow one out on his lowish PSI turbo GE

Have to say I am female and old - (57) modified GD3 owner here. Love my GD3 and even at 6 years old it will always be the most loved car I've ever owned. Love working on it and changing it up. Like above when I first got my Fit I wanted to swap out the headlights for Nighthawk black but they were nearly $400.00 each for the entire housing. Was able to pick them up a few months ago for $135.00 each. I am sure as the GD 3 drifts into the sunset parts will be harder to find and dirt cheap.