No New Fits
Mini van? Mini van? That's ancient history. People don't buy many of them any more, not enough to keep production lines going. Time to let go folks. We got over station wagons and convertibles and the like. We can get past mini vans as well.
Take a look at Toyota and Honda. They make the two best in the segment with no signs of ceasing production anytime in the foreseeable future
Last edited by BMWguy22; Aug 8, 2021 at 03:38 PM.
As other companies have dropped out of the minivan market it gives companies like Honda and Toyota some breathing space competition wise with an opportunity to pick up other customers. But it's still a shrinking market segment overall with no long term future.
Dodge (the pioneer of the minivan) is still making them.
https://carsalesbase.com/us-dodge-grand-caravan/
I love convertibles, sometimes steal my boyfriends.
Would also rather drive a minivan than an suv, and I am 26, no kids. Suvs look like a box, no style at all, and they have terrible handling, unless spending $250,000 to buy a Urus, or similar from say Porsche, or another performance brand. Drove my bosses brand new Escalade a few weeks ago, what a horrendous piece of shit. I'm very familiar with the roads he sent me on, driven that route dozens and dozens of times. That Escalade turned a 6 hour round trip drive, into 7 hours of lame driving, as it handles like I imagine a fit would if riding around on 3 tires, and 50 loose bowling balls were in it. Very possibly the worst handling vehicle on the road, but having had the opportunity to drive no less than 20 suvs over the years, including my sisters Honda CRV, which I strongly dislike. The heft, and height, seem to make an suv very ill handing. Only driven 2 minivans, both were a much nicer driving experience than an suv.
Sales figures for the Grand Caravan - a bit down the page.
https://carsalesbase.com/us-dodge-grand-caravan/
https://carsalesbase.com/us-dodge-grand-caravan/
Clearly there's a market or else they wouldn't make them anymore (i.e. Honda Fit).

I love convertibles, sometimes steal my boyfriends.
Would also rather drive a minivan than an suv, and I am 26, no kids. Suvs look like a box, no style at all, and they have terrible handling, unless spending $250,000 to buy a Urus, or similar from say Porsche, or another performance brand. Drove my bosses brand new Escalade a few weeks ago, what a horrendous piece of shit. I'm very familiar with the roads he sent me on, driven that route dozens and dozens of times. That Escalade turned a 6 hour round trip drive, into 7 hours of lame driving, as it handles like I imagine a fit would if riding around on 3 tires, and 50 loose bowling balls were in it. Very possibly the worst handling vehicle on the road, but having had the opportunity to drive no less than 20 suvs over the years, including my sisters Honda CRV, which I strongly dislike. The heft, and height, seem to make an suv very ill handing. Only driven 2 minivans, both were a much nicer driving experience than an suv.
Would also rather drive a minivan than an suv, and I am 26, no kids. Suvs look like a box, no style at all, and they have terrible handling, unless spending $250,000 to buy a Urus, or similar from say Porsche, or another performance brand. Drove my bosses brand new Escalade a few weeks ago, what a horrendous piece of shit. I'm very familiar with the roads he sent me on, driven that route dozens and dozens of times. That Escalade turned a 6 hour round trip drive, into 7 hours of lame driving, as it handles like I imagine a fit would if riding around on 3 tires, and 50 loose bowling balls were in it. Very possibly the worst handling vehicle on the road, but having had the opportunity to drive no less than 20 suvs over the years, including my sisters Honda CRV, which I strongly dislike. The heft, and height, seem to make an suv very ill handing. Only driven 2 minivans, both were a much nicer driving experience than an suv.
I see that in the winter time. Once they slide off the icy road they flip real easy, especially if they hit a curb. That's when the people without seat belts sometimes tend to get thrown out. If you're really unfortunate you'll get thrown out in the direction the vehicle is rolling and get pancaked as it goes over you. I've seen a few press writeups about the occasional accident over the years mentioning that. I can't help wondering if, after having done so much front end crash testing, maybe they should move on and do some more testing on roofs too.
I see that in the winter time. Once they slide off the icy road they flip real easy, especially if they hit a curb. That's when the people without seat belts sometimes tend to get thrown out. If you're really unfortunate you'll get thrown out in the direction the vehicle is rolling and get pancaked as it goes over you. I've seen a few press writeups about the occasional accident over the years mentioning that. I can't help wondering if, after having done so much front end crash testing, maybe they should move on and do some more testing on roofs too.
The Grand Caravan is dead. Now your options are the higher priced Chrysler Pacifica or the cheaper Voyager.
Where I work they have an older Grand Caravan, and also a Ford E350 15 passenger van to shuttle customers around, run errands, etc. Both have been excellent vehicles, and i believe are around 12 to 14 years old. Give me those to drive over the 2021 Escalade, or 2020 Terrain I've recently driven. That 2020 Terrain had just 16,000 kms on it, and had at least 3 rattles already. My 2008 Fit has 0 rattles.


