Help diagnosing A/C issue
My 2015 (3rd gen) car's AC seemed to be working at first on the first warm day a few weeks back but then it stopped after a bit.
I've verified that the clutch spins when it is on
on some drives the AC seems to work perfectly fine. On other drives, it does not seem to activate or if it does it's barely detectable
When it is not working (well), the larger diameter AC pipe under the hood will be cool (not cold) or even a bit warm
There are no major fin integrity issues with the condenser
The AC pipes are intact.
Here are the results of some testing all done with a manifold with the high/low side gauges on the same day:
Observation 1:
Before turning the car on, the low/high side pressure where approximately equal. A short time after turning the car and AC on: the outdoor temperature per the car's thermometer is 97. humidity is 31%. The temperature of air coming from the vents with AC on max is 60f. The car is in the sun. High side reads 225-250psi variable over time. Low side reads 45psi. The recirculate toggle for cabin air is on. Windows open.
Observation 2:
Windows closed: Temperature is set to coldest, fan max. Vents open and vent position set to dashboard level main vents. The temperature coming from the vent is now 57f. Low side pressure 39-42 psi. High side 225-250
Observation 3:
with the fan setting on speed 1, vent temperature is 50.
Observation 4:
so it's now in this setup after having been running for a while
Front windows open
Temperature dial to coolest
Max fan
Dashboard vent position
Recirculate
Vent air is like 74
Low side pressure 12 psi
High side 225
Engine rpm is around 1500-1700
Observation 5:
Passenger vent air temp is 76-80 and driver is 96. Low side is now 0 psi. High 225. Car configuration as before
Observation 6:
After turning off the AC but keeping everything else the same, the low side returned to 28psi
Observation 7:
It immediately went to zero low side psi when I turned it on
Observation 8:
The car has just turned off now and the low side is 10psi and high side 225. When I first started the test, the car had been off for an hour low side was much higher like over 100
Observation 9:
It has been off for 20 minutes or more and the low side is 13 psi and high 190
So what do you think? Expansion valve stuck closed or clogged (intermittently)? That'd be my guess.
Thanks
I've verified that the clutch spins when it is on
on some drives the AC seems to work perfectly fine. On other drives, it does not seem to activate or if it does it's barely detectable
When it is not working (well), the larger diameter AC pipe under the hood will be cool (not cold) or even a bit warm
There are no major fin integrity issues with the condenser
The AC pipes are intact.
Here are the results of some testing all done with a manifold with the high/low side gauges on the same day:
Observation 1:
Before turning the car on, the low/high side pressure where approximately equal. A short time after turning the car and AC on: the outdoor temperature per the car's thermometer is 97. humidity is 31%. The temperature of air coming from the vents with AC on max is 60f. The car is in the sun. High side reads 225-250psi variable over time. Low side reads 45psi. The recirculate toggle for cabin air is on. Windows open.
Observation 2:
Windows closed: Temperature is set to coldest, fan max. Vents open and vent position set to dashboard level main vents. The temperature coming from the vent is now 57f. Low side pressure 39-42 psi. High side 225-250
Observation 3:
with the fan setting on speed 1, vent temperature is 50.
Observation 4:
so it's now in this setup after having been running for a while
Front windows open
Temperature dial to coolest
Max fan
Dashboard vent position
Recirculate
Vent air is like 74
Low side pressure 12 psi
High side 225
Engine rpm is around 1500-1700
Observation 5:
Passenger vent air temp is 76-80 and driver is 96. Low side is now 0 psi. High 225. Car configuration as before
Observation 6:
After turning off the AC but keeping everything else the same, the low side returned to 28psi
Observation 7:
It immediately went to zero low side psi when I turned it on
Observation 8:
The car has just turned off now and the low side is 10psi and high side 225. When I first started the test, the car had been off for an hour low side was much higher like over 100
Observation 9:
It has been off for 20 minutes or more and the low side is 13 psi and high 190
So what do you think? Expansion valve stuck closed or clogged (intermittently)? That'd be my guess.
Thanks
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