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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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k20 anyone?

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another reason to love the new generation fit.
source: Gaijin-garage facebook page.
 
Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:30 PM
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that looks like there is room to spare.
 
Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:36 PM
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Of course there's room to spare...there's no intake manifold on it, in the first pic. Second pic looks crammed as usual.

That said, in the GE, Spoon/J's had their Fits K-swapped real quick too. US people just suck.
 
Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:46 PM
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Well when money is no object anything is possible.
 
Old Feb 21, 2014 | 12:20 AM
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I was about to say that there's a lot of room in that engine bay after the K20 then I saw that there was no intake manifold.

I just can't accept the 3rd gen, it's not the same Fit. It seems bulky, boring, and just too econoboxy. The previous gens had that sporty look to them, this one eeeehhhh. Who knows, I haven't even drove one, let alone see it in person.
 
Old Feb 21, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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The ones I have seen from Japan look good so far. Always difficult to make a solid judgement from pr photos.
 
Old Feb 21, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Saw a pic of that GK at Spoon somewhere completely stock and was wondering what they were going to do with it. I think it's funny they didn't even bother playing with the stock motor and just swapped it straight away
 
Old Feb 21, 2014 | 09:14 PM
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They swapped it due to the proven power of the k20. R&D on the L series takes time and time is not always on your side when marketing products for a brand new vehicle, especially when they are competing against every other race company.
 
Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ikutoisahobo
I was about to say that there's a lot of room in that engine bay after the K20 then I saw that there was no intake manifold.

I just can't accept the 3rd gen, it's not the same Fit. It seems bulky, boring, and just too econoboxy. The previous gens had that sporty look to them, this one eeeehhhh. Who knows, I haven't even drove one, let alone see it in person.
1.) Its lighter than the GE.
2.) Its DOHC/6MT from Honda.
3.) GD/GE don't look sporty, they drive well for what they are, but nothing more.
 
Old Feb 22, 2014 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevens24
Well when money is no object anything is possible.
that ! ^^^

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The ones I have seen from Japan look good so far. Always difficult to make a solid judgement from pr photos.
that too! ^^^

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They swapped it due to the proven power of the k20. R&D on the L series takes time and time is not always on your side when marketing products for a brand new vehicle, especially when they are competing against every other race company.
as stated "proven power" & easy to tune (small window for error) when "the general public see it on track, it's quick as shit and they have no idea whats under the hood - so they buy one (sometimes)

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1.) Its lighter than the GE.
2.) Its DOHC/6MT from Honda.
3.) GD/GE don't look sporty, they drive well for what they are, but nothing more.
bought GD thought i'd never sell it (like the crx going on 18years) - yeah sold it
bought GE figured I keep this one forever too - yeah sold it
buying an S2000 in the spring (who am I kidding - lol, i'll end up with a GK for atleast 4 years)
 
Old Feb 22, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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So let me get this straight, we are all giddy because Spoon spent what would amount to 15k to put a K20 into a GK fit? I admit it is an accomplishment But how many will actually spend the money to do it? The best part is that Rywire will have a harness for it early. I will be interested to see if this car gets any more aftermarket support than the GE which got little or none.
 
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So let me get this straight, we are all giddy because Spoon spent what would amount to 15k to put a K20 into a GK fit? I admit it is an accomplishment But how many will actually spend the money to do it? The best part is that Rywire will have a harness for it early. I will be interested to see if this car gets any more aftermarket support than the GE which got little or none.
What are you talking about?

ANYONE who claims the GE didn't get aftermarket support literally did not look for parts for it.
 
Old Feb 22, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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I think he is refering to the very small amount in comparison to the K series.

Honestly, all we have right now worthwhile is plug and play piggyback, exhaust, and intake.


Id like to see more cams available now that we have a boomslang and aem combo available
 
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Originally Posted by 13fit
I think he is refering to the very small amount in comparison to the K series.

Honestly, all we have right now worthwhile is plug and play piggyback, exhaust, and intake.


Id like to see more cams available now that we have a boomslang and aem combo available
The GD didn't have cams available (at least not widely so), so once again, what's different GE v. GD? We have Hondata, awesome, it only came 3-4 years after most people who modded their GD's sold them.

Also, yeah GD folk had some parts for a K-swap. All from one company IIRC, all ungodly expensive, etc. There's a reason not many GD dudes did K-swaps, they're not worth it.
 
Old Feb 22, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Also just think, J's Racing had perhaps the baddest k20 fit, and yet there is absolutely no swap parts coming from them. It was just a show case car for them to test the chassis and get the fit/jazz community worked up and buy their go fast parts.

It's simply a marketing ploy since they don't use it in a race class. Even the 24 hour endurance gd chassis from spoon retained the L15a so that they could stay within a competitive class.
 
Old Feb 22, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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I didn't look as closely as I don't own one(GE) But I did not see companies like Kraftwerks,HKs,T1R etc. developing turbos and superchargers for it. The GD took a hitby it taking Hondata so long to come out with the kpro. It will be interesting to see how the new platform is developed but having the hondata available is huge to getting more out of the GD engine.

I will reserve judgement on the GK, although I do loke the look better than the GE.
 
Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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the new motor on the gk looks like it will respond well to forced induction unlike the previous motor. Or you can go k20 especially for rally where I would have to add weight to meet spec.
 

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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by georgerogers42
the new motor on the gk looks like it will respond well to forced induction unlike the previous motor. Or you can go k20 especially for rally where I would have to add weight to meet spec.

lol. the GD and GE setups have a HORRIBLE intake assembly for performance. Honda did it for a flatter torque curve that added driveability in an otherwise stock hamstermobile.

a properly designed intake manifold would wake up the GD/GE cars, but sadly, only the GD guys could easily tune. GE piggyback setups are sensitive for the most part, though a few people on here have gotten some amazing results, all due to patience and concentration!
 
Old Mar 9, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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lol. the GD and GE setups have a HORRIBLE intake assembly for performance. Honda did it for a flatter torque curve that added driveability in an otherwise stock hamstermobile.

a properly designed intake manifold would wake up the GD/GE cars, but sadly, only the GD guys could easily tune. GE piggyback setups are sensitive for the most part, though a few people on here have gotten some amazing results, all due to patience and concentration!
On the GD/GE models definately go K20. But on the 2015 GK's I wouldn't rush to put a k20 in until seeing the results of forced induction.
 
Old Mar 9, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by georgerogers42
On the GD/GE models definately go K20. But on the 2015 GK's I wouldn't rush to put a k20 in until seeing the results of forced induction.

why go k20? a simple custom intake manifold matched with a turbo kit is a cheap and easy 2-300hp


k swaps cost too much still for the little you get
 



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