North American First Drives
#21
Note that the e-mail from the dealer says "view", so a test drive is not set in stone. Don't want to burn my bridges either, with my sales rep as he has been pretty straight-forward with me up to this point. If his manager says no test drive, believe me, I ain't gonna push it. The distressing news is he mentioned that LX allocation may not happen till June!!!Next month's shipments are all EX's. BTW, So-CAL Dealers all have strong brand relationships. Wouldn't be surprised if they all (Honda dealers) agreed on holding back putting the GKs on public view till the start of May or later.
Just got off the phone and the two colors available for the EX's on the ground are Alabaster Silver and Black. They have 22 GKs posted on their online inventory - 14 EX-CVT - 7 EX L-CVT - 1 EX L Nav - CVT. Most should be on ground in the next two weeks. Would be interesting who would be buying those EX L's cause they got heated leather seats. That's one option that may not get any use on the island!!!!!!!!
Just got off the phone and the two colors available for the EX's on the ground are Alabaster Silver and Black. They have 22 GKs posted on their online inventory - 14 EX-CVT - 7 EX L-CVT - 1 EX L Nav - CVT. Most should be on ground in the next two weeks. Would be interesting who would be buying those EX L's cause they got heated leather seats. That's one option that may not get any use on the island!!!!!!!!
#22
Dude, your gonna be the first (uh, second guy on FF, Jason was first) to drive a GK. Drive that demo and post your impressions. Can you imagine our dealers getting inventory to show/drive before the mainland??? Am on a late double shift the rest of the week so may not be able to see the Honda boys till the weekend. Go for it!!!!!!!!!!
#23
Dude, your gonna be the first (uh, second guy on FF, Jason was first) to drive a GK. Drive that demo and post your impressions. Can you imagine our dealers getting inventory to show/drive before the mainland??? Am on a late double shift the rest of the week so may not be able to see the Honda boys till the weekend. Go for it!!!!!!!!!!
I would like to fly over to Oahu for a test drive if it were cheaper, but $200+ for a test drive is a bit much.
#24
We'll see if I can save you the $200 this weekend. Windward is only 8 miles from my place but will try to do a short one with Pacific first. No matter what, we will be paying MSRP, so never felt the need to shop.
Unlike some sales people, some of us buyers do believe in maintaining our integrity!!!
Unlike some sales people, some of us buyers do believe in maintaining our integrity!!!
#25
We'll see if I can save you the $200 this weekend. Windward is only 8 miles from my place but will try to do a short one with Pacific first. No matter what, we will be paying MSRP, so never felt the need to shop.
Unlike some sales people, some of us buyers do believe in maintaining our integrity!!!
Unlike some sales people, some of us buyers do believe in maintaining our integrity!!!
#26
2 cars already at the dealership (EXs Silve and Black) and the remaining 20 supposed to arrive in the next 2 weeks. According to TCroly, Windward's got a couple of EX's on the ground and one is designated a demo. Let's you or I save TC $200!!!
#27
From a more national perspective Cars.com now shows 502 2015 Fits and they are all CVTs. Most of these are probably still in transit or sitting in Holding centers. It looks like production has not started on the 6MTs.
Also colors are still limited to Black, Silver, Dark grey and red, with only 2 blues, and 3 whites.
#28
Besides, know myself too well. If I see/drive that EX, I'm that weak, may fork up just to get it.
With whites in rarity and LX production delayed for months, at least I know my sales rep. has been truthful. August arrival is his best estimate. My cardinal rule in sales: UNDER PROMISE and OVER DELIVER!!! Anyone who treats me with this thinking deserves my business. My new Fit has to be a White LX M/T. Won't be flexible on that. Paying full MSRP, so might as well get and wait for what I want.
Perfect timing as this allows ample time for grabbing more overtimes and double shifts for the extra funds to cover those much needed accessories!!!!
GD is puttering along faithfully, so will enjoy the next 4 months (this time frame for old farts like me will feel like 4 weeks). In the meantime, shocks need replacement and am going to do that before the wife's niece gets it. Might as well do all fluids too.
#29
Just got back from test driving an EX with CVT. Overall, I was quite pleased with how it drove. We are not in the market for an automatic transmission but the overall feel was very positive. A little background: I'm currently driving an Acura ILX with six speed manual. My wife (for whom the car is for) is currently driving a CRZ with a six speed manual. My previous car history includes a 2008 TSX, '05 S2000, '00 S2000, '95 MR2 Turbo and '88 MR2 Supercharged. All have been with manual transmission.
We are approaching the Fit with a specific set of goals in mind. As you can tell from our previous vehicle history, having four seats, or great cargo carrying capacity is not a priority. A manual transmission is a must, and a certain "feel" is important to us. Fuel economy is pretty high on our list as well. At this point, I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice a certain amount of straight-line acceleration to get better economy.
Stan Lum at Pacific Honda gave us an excellent opportunity to drive the car. Upon first approach, we realize how much taller this vehicle is then our current CRZ. My wife commented that the seating position is significantly higher than what she is currently driving and also much higher than her previous S2000s (she had a 2001 and 2004, yes, we had four of them between the two of us). She felt that the CRZ is a little "peppier" no doubt because of the additional torque provided by the IMA system and the fact that it is a manual transmission. She appreciated the improved visibility and commented that the Lane Watch Camera would take some getting used to.
From my point of view, I found the acceleration to adequate. Not fast by any means but it was acceptable. I have read some comments on the "slower" steering ratios but felt that in actual usage, it was plenty quick. Certainly faster than my current Acura. It required a brief period of adjustment at highway speeds to keep from darting back-and-forth in the lane. I wish I could comment on the weighting of the steering but I didn't notice anything good or bad, which might be a compliment in its own right. There was a little more resistance than the somewhat overboosted steering in the Acura, and it seemed to offer a pretty good feel for what the front wheels are doing.
Our test drive took us up the Pali highway in pretty heavy rain and then back down on Old Pali Road which provided some nice twisties. Of course, with the wet roads we were forced to be a little more cautious. That said, I felt the car cornered very flat, exhibiting very little body roll. The steering provided enough feedback for me to feel the car entering an understeer condition on the wet roads and to modulate in a little braking. I was also pleasantly surprised with the feel of the shock absorbers. I have felt that recent Honda/Acura tuning has yielded shock absorbers that have too soft a compression and too strong a rebound. This felt much more linear than the dampening in the CRZ for example.
I think I was most impressed with the overall feel of the chassis. Honestly, it felt incredibly rigid which surprised me considering it is essentially a "tube" with little or no cross bracing like you would find in a sedan. Naturally, this benefits handling but also NVH. We drove the previous generation Fit Sport but opted for the CRZ for a number of reasons but one of them was noise. This car seems much quieter overall, and even things like the rain on the windshield was pleasantly muted. It's certainly no RLX with acoustic glass and double pane side windows but I can think of a number of cars that are noisier than this one.
The telematics in the car was very intuitive. Especially if you are already familiar with Honda/Acura systems. The phone paired up quickly and easily and my phonebook synchronized properly. The response time on the new touchscreen is significantly better than what we see in the dual screen MDX and RLX. Also, the large, roomy screen provided an excellent image for the back up camera. I was surprised to see it offered trajectory lines, I was only expecting fixed guidelines. I may be the only person in the world that cannot use a camera with trajectory lines but it was easy to turn them off. Siri Eyes Free was already enabled and worked perfectly as it does in my ILX.
We still need to try the six speed version of the car but assuming the comments on the high engagement point of the clutch are overblown, I think this will be our next vehicle. I will be sad to lose the high-intensity discharge headlights but feel that there are enough other positive factors in the new Fit.
We are approaching the Fit with a specific set of goals in mind. As you can tell from our previous vehicle history, having four seats, or great cargo carrying capacity is not a priority. A manual transmission is a must, and a certain "feel" is important to us. Fuel economy is pretty high on our list as well. At this point, I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice a certain amount of straight-line acceleration to get better economy.
Stan Lum at Pacific Honda gave us an excellent opportunity to drive the car. Upon first approach, we realize how much taller this vehicle is then our current CRZ. My wife commented that the seating position is significantly higher than what she is currently driving and also much higher than her previous S2000s (she had a 2001 and 2004, yes, we had four of them between the two of us). She felt that the CRZ is a little "peppier" no doubt because of the additional torque provided by the IMA system and the fact that it is a manual transmission. She appreciated the improved visibility and commented that the Lane Watch Camera would take some getting used to.
From my point of view, I found the acceleration to adequate. Not fast by any means but it was acceptable. I have read some comments on the "slower" steering ratios but felt that in actual usage, it was plenty quick. Certainly faster than my current Acura. It required a brief period of adjustment at highway speeds to keep from darting back-and-forth in the lane. I wish I could comment on the weighting of the steering but I didn't notice anything good or bad, which might be a compliment in its own right. There was a little more resistance than the somewhat overboosted steering in the Acura, and it seemed to offer a pretty good feel for what the front wheels are doing.
Our test drive took us up the Pali highway in pretty heavy rain and then back down on Old Pali Road which provided some nice twisties. Of course, with the wet roads we were forced to be a little more cautious. That said, I felt the car cornered very flat, exhibiting very little body roll. The steering provided enough feedback for me to feel the car entering an understeer condition on the wet roads and to modulate in a little braking. I was also pleasantly surprised with the feel of the shock absorbers. I have felt that recent Honda/Acura tuning has yielded shock absorbers that have too soft a compression and too strong a rebound. This felt much more linear than the dampening in the CRZ for example.
I think I was most impressed with the overall feel of the chassis. Honestly, it felt incredibly rigid which surprised me considering it is essentially a "tube" with little or no cross bracing like you would find in a sedan. Naturally, this benefits handling but also NVH. We drove the previous generation Fit Sport but opted for the CRZ for a number of reasons but one of them was noise. This car seems much quieter overall, and even things like the rain on the windshield was pleasantly muted. It's certainly no RLX with acoustic glass and double pane side windows but I can think of a number of cars that are noisier than this one.
The telematics in the car was very intuitive. Especially if you are already familiar with Honda/Acura systems. The phone paired up quickly and easily and my phonebook synchronized properly. The response time on the new touchscreen is significantly better than what we see in the dual screen MDX and RLX. Also, the large, roomy screen provided an excellent image for the back up camera. I was surprised to see it offered trajectory lines, I was only expecting fixed guidelines. I may be the only person in the world that cannot use a camera with trajectory lines but it was easy to turn them off. Siri Eyes Free was already enabled and worked perfectly as it does in my ILX.
We still need to try the six speed version of the car but assuming the comments on the high engagement point of the clutch are overblown, I think this will be our next vehicle. I will be sad to lose the high-intensity discharge headlights but feel that there are enough other positive factors in the new Fit.
#30
Best of all, its no pre-production vehicle. It a retail vehicle!!!! The OP seems to be the FIRST in this forum.
Good job C. TCroly and I owe you big. What a comprehesive review. Guess the only part you missed is how does that stereo sound???chahahaha
Post more when you remember stuff.
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#31
I noticed in a review video that they mentioned the trajectory lines on the backup camera are a nice perk of the higher trim levels. So since you drove the EX, possibly the LX has just fixed lines on the backup camera. Not sure though, just noticed that comment in a video!
#32
The review was great!! Interesting read - got a feel for the car just reading your comments. Interesting to me was your comment on the steering, that the car was "darting back & forth in the lane". That is one thing that I notice in my 13 Fit, that I'm always correcting the steering, especially on the freeway. Really don't like electric steering. It's OK surface street, but at freeway speeds you constantly have to make corrections. I would like to drive a 15 Fit just to see the difference. I think it will be a good little car. Like you, I'm a MT guy.
#33
I would add that for those getting the CVT, it's not bad. Honda's current ED CVT does allow some RPM 'rise and fall'. Much more satisfying than the way some hit the torque peak and just drone on. Using the manual mode was a lot more fun. Downshifts were pretty quick, but the tiny engine doesn't offer a lot of engine braking till you get it REALLY low. I was trying to explain the concept to my wife, and I could see her thinking "that's a lot of work when you can have a proper manual..."
#34
Thank you ColinS for your excellent, comprehensive '15 Fit EX CVT review! Your review comes with a lot of credibility and weight because of your ownership of various high performance Honda and Acura vehicles. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
#35
Mahalo Colin for this test drive review. I am very happy to hear that you found the steering to be acceptable. I have always been satisfied by the steering of both my Fit and CRZ, while neither is up the the benchmark "feel" of the manual steering of my '91 NSX, I do think that steering is one thing that makes a Honda, drive like a Honda.
I am also pleased to hear that you preferred the shock dampening of the new Fit to your CRZ. I have often described the shock feel of the CRZ to be "personal luxury car" soft and the Fit "Economy car" firm. While each has its merits in certain driving conditions, both could be improved on and it sounds from your impressions that Honda has achieve some degree of improvement in this regard.
We share some car history with each having owned an MR2 turbo and CRZ, and I had an M- Roadster to match your bevy of S2000s. And all of the cars that I have ever purchased have been manual gearbox cars. So I think we share similar desires in what a car should feel like. I am encouraged to hear your enthusiasm for the Fit's chassis rigidity and driving dynamics. I do hope that Honda has not lost any excellence in their gearbox and clutch, but like you I expect it will be fine.
It looks like it may be a while before we get to sample a manual transmission car as none have shown up in any of the online inventories yet. The new Factory seems to be starting out producing CVTs exclusively.
I am also pleased to hear that you preferred the shock dampening of the new Fit to your CRZ. I have often described the shock feel of the CRZ to be "personal luxury car" soft and the Fit "Economy car" firm. While each has its merits in certain driving conditions, both could be improved on and it sounds from your impressions that Honda has achieve some degree of improvement in this regard.
We share some car history with each having owned an MR2 turbo and CRZ, and I had an M- Roadster to match your bevy of S2000s. And all of the cars that I have ever purchased have been manual gearbox cars. So I think we share similar desires in what a car should feel like. I am encouraged to hear your enthusiasm for the Fit's chassis rigidity and driving dynamics. I do hope that Honda has not lost any excellence in their gearbox and clutch, but like you I expect it will be fine.
It looks like it may be a while before we get to sample a manual transmission car as none have shown up in any of the online inventories yet. The new Factory seems to be starting out producing CVTs exclusively.
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