AC not cold enough
AC not cold enough
I bought my Fit EX a little over a month ago and this is the first warm weekend we have had in Minnesota this year. My wife and I both noticed that the AC just did not get cold enough. It was cool, but not cold. Target was sold out of thermometers today so I'll pick one up from the hardware store tomorrow. However, my guess is that the output temp is around 55 on the coldest setting. I have 35% tint all around and I have tried both recirculate and outside air. I plan to take it in to the dealer, but I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and whether they have been able to get it fixed.
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2015 Fit EX CVT
35% all around
Auto dimming mirror w/ compass
Yellow fog lights
Stainless exhaust finisher
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2015 Fit EX CVT
35% all around
Auto dimming mirror w/ compass
Yellow fog lights
Stainless exhaust finisher
So I did a measurement today on the AC:
1. I had the AC on full blast for over 30 mins while I drove to work today (25 miles).
2. When I got to the parking lot, I moved to re-circulate air.
3. I took out the non-contact infrared digital thermometer and did a reading while the AC is blasting at max cold/fan. Please see picture for ref to outside temp and what I am getting off the AC.
4. Looks like I need to take it into the dealer to check it out. Seem like others are saying, I should get around mid 40s blowing from the vent if my AC is working as it should.
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1. I had the AC on full blast for over 30 mins while I drove to work today (25 miles).
2. When I got to the parking lot, I moved to re-circulate air.
3. I took out the non-contact infrared digital thermometer and did a reading while the AC is blasting at max cold/fan. Please see picture for ref to outside temp and what I am getting off the AC.
4. Looks like I need to take it into the dealer to check it out. Seem like others are saying, I should get around mid 40s blowing from the vent if my AC is working as it should.
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Maybe you should try a lower fan setting. On "full blast" you are probably pushing the air through the evaporator so fast that it doesn't have a chance to cool. For this reason, I seldom run the AC fan over setting 2, and I seem to get plenty of cold air.
fibrepunk, if you're in socal then you know about the high temps we had about a week ago... mid 90's. I have tinting on the fit, no econ mode, full blast AC, front-blowing only, recirculating, and the air is mildly cold. I think thats just how this car is. I drove it like that for 1.5 hours and i never did stop sweating (leather + hot car = ew).
Though it's only been to 102 so far this year I'd say the AC is adequate and should be able to handle the 115 degree days coming up. As with any car around here, if you park in the sun you need a sunshade, dashmat, and tint. For the first few miles when the car is over 150 inside a little 4x60 helps (four windows down and sixty miles an hour), then roll 'em up and go to recirc for awhile, then outside air.
AC not cooling
I measured the AC coming out of the top vents with the air set on the coolest setting with the fan on 2, 3, and 4. The coldest it got was 52 degrees at the center top outlet. What is the factory spec on this? I would think that the outlet temp should be 42 degrees to insure adequate cooling on a hot day with all that windshield. The outside ambient temp was 73 degrees.
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2015 Fit EX CVT Crystal Black Pearl
35% tint
Auto dimming mirror w/ compass
Yellow fogs
Stainless exhaust tip
Clear door edge guards
All weather floor mats
Nedpoins
2015 Fit EX CVT Crystal Black Pearl
35% tint
Auto dimming mirror w/ compass
Yellow fogs
Stainless exhaust tip
Clear door edge guards
All weather floor mats
Those are two completely meaningless phrases. Bring it in to a dealer and complain: they'll measure its output tempreature, compare it to ambient and not care what you're wearing.
Now that we're done with comparing apples to daydreams, let's compare them to oranges: Your Accord had a more powerful engine spinning a bigger compressor to cool a car with a smaller cabin. It was also a few notches upmarket from the Fit: Honda's web site shows today's Fit starting at about $6500 less than the Accord. Someone spending that much more would hope for nicer amenities than come with the cheapest car in the lineup.
People have pointed out ambient temp, interior temp, recirc and even the econ button all have an effect on how well it can work. I'll add humidity to the list: drier air gives the AC less to work with. You can help out the interior temp with one of those windshield shades and maybe leaving a window or two open a bit. It's a low end car built for efficiency- you'll get better results if you help it out a bit.
Now that we're done with comparing apples to daydreams, let's compare them to oranges: Your Accord had a more powerful engine spinning a bigger compressor to cool a car with a smaller cabin. It was also a few notches upmarket from the Fit: Honda's web site shows today's Fit starting at about $6500 less than the Accord. Someone spending that much more would hope for nicer amenities than come with the cheapest car in the lineup.
People have pointed out ambient temp, interior temp, recirc and even the econ button all have an effect on how well it can work. I'll add humidity to the list: drier air gives the AC less to work with. You can help out the interior temp with one of those windshield shades and maybe leaving a window or two open a bit. It's a low end car built for efficiency- you'll get better results if you help it out a bit.
I came back to the forum today specifically to look and see if anyone else was having the same experience that I had with my AC today. ie: My AC got cool; but never got cold enough for real comfort inside the car. The outside temp was 87*F when I noticed the lack of cooling. 87*F is just beginning to scratch the surface of summer here in middle Georgia. Temperatures in the high nineties are not at all uncommon during June, July, and August. If I can't figure something out before then, it's going to be a miserable summer.
Here are some facts applicable to the situation. I am not a novice when it comes to automotive AC. I owned and managed a shop specializing in automotive heating and cooling system repair for thirteen years. When I performance test a system, it is done in the following manner. (1) Car parked in shade. (2) Blower fan set at one position above low with the system running in recirculate mode. (3) Digital thermometer inserted into center dash vent opening. (4) Engine speed held at a steady 2000 rpm.
The vast majority of vehicles will display a 5* variance in temps as the compressor cycles on and off during the test. The compressor cycles to maintain safe refrigerant pressures in the system and to avoid an icing up of the system.
I tested my car when I came home today in accordance with the steps shown above. Additionally, I had the Economy mode turned off. My vehicle would pull down to 42*F before the compressor cycled off. The temp would climb to 47-48*F and the compressor would start again. That sounds like pretty good cooling to someone not familiar with AC capabilities; but it wouldn't hold the interior temps of my car at a comfortable level while the outside temps were only a balmy 87*F. When I had my shop, I tried not to let any car leave the shop unless it would pull a vent temp lower than 40*. Oh, I failed to mention that my car is white and has all the glass tinted at 35%.
I will put some gauges on it tomorrow and see what's happening. R134a is very sensitive to pressure irregularities; so, maybe, it's something as simple as that. I just hope Honda hasn't fielded a less than adequate system.
Something I've noticed is that with the ac off and fan on and bringing in outside air, it's warmer than indicated outside temperature. This is after the engine warms up from a cold start in a garage. So, I end up turning on the ac sooner than I did with my previous suv.
I haven't looked to see how and where the duct is routed but perhaps there's a way to insulate better from engine heat.
I haven't looked to see how and where the duct is routed but perhaps there's a way to insulate better from engine heat.
Something I've noticed is that with the ac off and fan on and bringing in outside air, it's warmer than indicated outside temperature. This is after the engine warms up from a cold start in a garage. So, I end up turning on the ac sooner than I did with my previous suv.
I haven't looked to see how and where the duct is routed but perhaps there's a way to insulate better from engine heat.
I haven't looked to see how and where the duct is routed but perhaps there's a way to insulate better from engine heat.
The area where I most often drive for my shopping is about a fifteen minute drive from my house. Yesterday, I made the complete trip and the interior of my car never reached a comfortable level. I have three other cars...all considerably older than the Fit...any of those three will freeze me out within five minutes.
I got tied up with other things today; so I didn't get to put gauges on my car. That is still on the agenda.
I too have noticed with my '15 Fit. Being in Northern Cally it does get pretty warm and then hot in the afternoon. My windows are tinted to 35 using the Viper film. It works well keeping the heat out but when driving it still takes forever to get the cabin cool enough to feel comfortable. I suspect it's because my car is Steel grey in color which absorbs heat from the sun. Let alone black interior with leather seats. I thought of getting a silver color car but figured how much of a difference would it make? Probably a few degrees would have made a difference.
The interior should be insulated enough from the exterior panels but driving an econo car there is no telling. Some of you even added materials in the doors to dampen the road noise.
Fortunately I live around the bay so it only gets really hot in the afternoon and then cools off in the evening. So have to wonder if I ever decide to trek across Death Valley in the Fit during the summer would it hold up to it's name? lol
The interior should be insulated enough from the exterior panels but driving an econo car there is no telling. Some of you even added materials in the doors to dampen the road noise.
Fortunately I live around the bay so it only gets really hot in the afternoon and then cools off in the evening. So have to wonder if I ever decide to trek across Death Valley in the Fit during the summer would it hold up to it's name? lol
Last edited by DArkk; May 10, 2015 at 11:03 PM.
89 degrees, quite warm though not terribly humid in JAX Florida today. Fit LX comfortably cool today with fan on 2 for a little while + temperature dial about half way cool. Then turned fan to 1, and moved temp dial up to 10 o'clock. Just fine.
Fellow Floridian, same outcome.
I spent a few days in Clearwater during the first week in May. I didn't notice a problem at that time. However, most of my driving was early morning or late evening while I was there. It became a problem after I returned to Georgia. I bought my car in November; so the AC never saw warm weather until this month.
I did finally get some gauges on my car and found it to be a little low on refrigerant. I added a few ounces; and now the compressor cycling range varies between 38*F and 43*F. I haven't tried to drive it with everything heat soaked to see how quickly it will cool down yet.
I did finally get some gauges on my car and found it to be a little low on refrigerant. I added a few ounces; and now the compressor cycling range varies between 38*F and 43*F. I haven't tried to drive it with everything heat soaked to see how quickly it will cool down yet.
My girlfriend gets cold under 70 degrees. 75-80 degrees for her is perfect "outside weather". 90 degrees is when she starts thinking it's a little hot out. Going out in the daytime in Vegas last summer in 105 F weather had her barely breaking a sweat.
I love the cold. I am comfortable at 65-68 degrees indoors. Perfect outside weather for me is the low to mid 60's. I can wear T-shirts and not sweat at those temperatures, and can tolerate wearing T shirts in the mid-50's without feeling uncomfortably cold. As it creeps above 70, I start sweating. Last summer's Vegas vacation was like walking on the sun (during the daytime). I started to soak within a few minutes of walking outside in unshaded areas.
Everyone is different.
That said, I think the Fit's AC is fine. It was 85F the other day and I was fine with the AC on "2" at first, then on "1" after a few minutes with the windows closed and re-circulation on. I find that the engine warms up really fast, and the AC kicks in really fast. Faster than any other car I've owned, honestly. The AC is honestly better than in some German cars I've been in, but then again Germany is cold and they don't put very strong units into the cars unless they're wayyy-upmarket.


