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John Kuhn 04-21-2015 08:45 AM

Automatic locking?
 
Question regarding our new 2015 Fit EX:
When the car is parked in the garage, sometimes it stays unlocked (nice if you come back later to get something, or to put something in the car and are not carrying the fob), and sometimes it seems to relock itself, even when the door handle button was believed not to have been pressed. Looks like there is some customization possible with lock/unlock according to the owner's manual, but this is random enough not sure what is going on or what to do. Anybody else experience this?

SR45 04-21-2015 02:43 PM

I have, a bit puzzling, but I don't give it much thought OP. And I haven't looked in the manual to find a fix or work around...

GotFitB13 04-21-2015 04:09 PM

I wonder if there is a possibility that if you exit the car it may lock after a period of time. But if you were to exit the car, close the door, then open a different door - like to get groceries out, then it won't lock even after you close that second door.

GoBucky 04-22-2015 07:26 AM

The only time it should automatically re-lock is in this situation:
1. the car is locked
2. you unlock it with the fob
3. you do not open any doors
4. after approx 90 seconds (I'm guessing at the time here), it will automatically re-lock

John Kuhn 04-22-2015 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by GoBucky (Post 1303275)
The only time it should automatically re-lock is in this situation:
1. the car is locked
2. you unlock it with the fob
3. you do not open any doors
4. after approx 90 seconds (I'm guessing at the time here), it will automatically re-lock

That's exactly what I thought as well. Not sure what is happening. Apparently SR45 has experienced this as well. It's my wife's car, she said it's happened about 10 times, randomly, and she can't see a pattern. We'll keep looking, may ask the dealer at some point if it continues. But since it doesn't seem to be repeatable, I doubt they will be able to do anything.

GoBucky 04-22-2015 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by John Kuhn (Post 1303279)
That's exactly what I thought as well. Not sure what is happening. Apparently SR45 has experienced this as well. It's my wife's car, she said it's happened about 10 times, randomly, and she can't see a pattern. We'll keep looking, may ask the dealer at some point if it continues. But since it doesn't seem to be repeatable, I doubt they will be able to do anything.

I can see how that would be annoying. I can't tell you how many times I go out to the garage to either get something from the car or put something in it.

Uncle Gary 04-22-2015 12:07 PM

I notice your Fit is an EX (OP). Could this have something to do with proximity of the key fob to the car? Does the car lock automatically if the fob is "out of range" after a time period? This is something I'll have to experiment with.

John Kuhn 04-22-2015 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Gary (Post 1303311)
I notice your Fit is an EX (OP). Could this have something to do with proximity of the key fob to the car? Does the car lock automatically if the fob is "out of range" after a time period? This is something I'll have to experiment with.

She drives into the garage, gets out of the car with the fob in purse, may or may not open the back door and get something out of the back seat, walks into the house with the fob, which is left in a drawer inside the house, maybe 30' from the car. Sometimes it locks itself at some point, other times it doesn't.

GoBucky 04-23-2015 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by John Kuhn (Post 1303393)
She drives into the garage, gets out of the car with the fob in purse, may or may not open the back door and get something out of the back seat, walks into the house with the fob, which is left in a drawer inside the house, maybe 30' from the car. Sometimes it locks itself at some point, other times it doesn't.

Any chance that either the Lock or Unlock button on the fob is accidentally pushed while in her purse? Lots of stuff in there that could bump into it while being picked up, moved and set down again.

Uncle Gary 04-23-2015 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by GoBucky (Post 1303420)
Any chance that either the Lock or Unlock button on the fob is accidentally pushed while in her purse? Lots of stuff in there that could bump into it while being picked up, moved and set down again.

:yeahthat:I've found that I could lock the doors on my '09 Fit by squatting with the fob in my pants pocket when my key ring would press the button.

John Kuhn 04-23-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by GoBucky (Post 1303420)
Any chance that either the Lock or Unlock button on the fob is accidentally pushed while in her purse? Lots of stuff in there that could bump into it while being picked up, moved and set down again.

We thought about that as well, but the buttons are slightly recessed and the purse is not packed. She's going to try to be very vigilant about the fob until we figure it out.
All the thoughts are appreciated!

GoBucky 04-23-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Gary (Post 1303422)
:yeahthat:I've found that I could lock the doors on my '09 Fit by squatting with the fob in my pants pocket when my key ring would press the button.

I had to laugh when I read this. Reminds me of the TV commercial where the guy has his hands full of fast food and is trying to open an automatic door to his office building which requires his key card that's in his back pocket, causing him to twerk by the key card reader. :rotfl:

tju 04-23-2015 01:46 PM

I've been surprised at finding my door locked a few times as well when I thought I left it open, but this may have involved inadvertent key button presses since I've had those as well. When I first got my car, the salesman reviewed several printed pages of settings (pages seemed to include instructions) and offered to make changes from the default set-up. Every one of the defaults seemed right to me, and since they could be changed later, I kept all the defaults, but I remember him mentioning optional settings for door locking, window operation, even turning off the ambient eco-hinting lights around the speedometer and more. I'll try to see if I can get a copy of that list from the dealer.

GoBucky 04-23-2015 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by John Kuhn (Post 1303424)
We thought about that as well, but the buttons are slightly recessed and the purse is not packed. She's going to try to be very vigilant about the fob until we figure it out.
All the thoughts are appreciated!

Yes, they are recessed a little but they are pretty large. In any event, let us know if it continues or if your wife's vigilance solves the problem.

GoBucky 04-23-2015 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by tju (Post 1303464)
I've been surprised at finding my door locked a few times as well when I thought I left it open, but this may have involved inadvertent key button presses since I've had those as well. When I first got my car, the salesman reviewed several printed pages of settings (pages seemed to include instructions) and offered to make changes from the default set-up. Every one of the defaults seemed right to me, and since they could be changed later, I kept all the defaults, but I remember him mentioning optional settings for door locking, window operation, even turning off the ambient eco-hinting lights around the speedometer and more. I'll try to see if I can get a copy of that list from the dealer.

You can't adjust the ambient eco lights but you can change settings for locking and unlocking the doors (e.g. automatic locking when you get to 10-12mph, automatic unlocking when you shift to park or open the driver's door, etc).

tju 04-23-2015 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by GoBucky (Post 1303467)
You can't adjust the ambient eco lights but you can change settings for locking and unlocking the doors (e.g. automatic locking when you get to 10-12mph, automatic unlocking when you shift to park or open the driver's door, etc).



I could not remember all of the auto lock options, and thought there might be something related to auto locking if left unattended for a certain time...


I distinctly remember him mentioning the eco lights because he said some buyers find them annoying, but when that came up he was no longer looking at the prepared default settings list at his desk - we were in the car reviewing the audio system/phone set-up, so maybe he was mistaken. I'm curious enough to stop in and ask next time I'm in the neighborhood though...

John Kuhn 06-08-2015 09:05 PM

Self Locking Update
 
The car still locks itself in the garage on random occasions, so I called the dealer and the service rep said to bring it in, which we did today. When we arrived, a different tech who was going to write us up said that the car will automatically lock itself unless you press the unlock button on the key fob after you get out of the car. He said all Hondas are set up this way since before the push button start feature was implemented. He could not account for why sometimes it does it and sometimes not, except that it might have to do with how long you stand next to the car, etc. He said he also has a 2015 Fit and this is what his car does. Of course I said it would have been nice knowing this when we called originally, before driving uselessly to the dealer 45 minutes each way.

So I guess now we'll try his suggestion, even though it is somewhat inconvenient, and counterintuitive.

Uncle Gary 06-08-2015 10:10 PM

Another related, if slightly annoying thing I've noticed while washing the car is that the doors repeatedly unlock if you hit the door handle with the water spray from the hose, then lock a few seconds later. It does this if you have the fob on your person (which I usually do) while washing the car. Apparently the water spray is actuating the unlock sensor.


I asked the dealer about this, who, of course, assured me that this is "normal".

Virgo 06-09-2015 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Gary (Post 1309075)
Another related, if slightly annoying thing I've noticed while washing the car is that the doors repeatedly unlock if you hit the door handle with the water spray from the hose, then lock a few seconds later. It does this if you have the fob on your person (which I usually do) while washing the car. Apparently the water spray is actuating the unlock sensor.


I asked the dealer about this, who, of course, assured me that this is "normal".

Yes I noticed that too when I gave my ride a wash last weekend. What I did was to keep the car unlocked while spraying on it. At least it didn't lock it automatically. :)

GoBucky 06-09-2015 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by John Kuhn (Post 1309054)
.......the car will automatically lock itself unless you press the unlock button on the key fob after you get out of the car.

Mine never locks automatically and I never press the unlock button when exiting. I'm not sure why the tech is telling you that. I've never heard of that in any car......ever.

John Kuhn 06-09-2015 08:00 AM

I have never heard of it either, and it is especially suspicious since it is random rather than predictable, and not mentioned in the operator's manual, but I'm not sure it's worth fighting about.

tbFit 06-09-2015 08:31 AM

The only auto lock scenario that I'm aware of is the condition where the car is locked, you press the keyfob to unlock, you don't open any doors within a minute and the car will relock itself.

John Kuhn 06-09-2015 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by tbFit (Post 1309115)
The only auto lock scenario that I'm aware of is the condition where the car is locked, you press the keyfob to unlock, you don't open any doors within a minute and the car will relock itself.

That is exactly what I think!

GoBucky 06-10-2015 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by tbFit (Post 1309115)
The only auto lock scenario that I'm aware of is the condition where the car is locked, you press the keyfob to unlock, you don't open any doors within a minute and the car will relock itself.

Exactly, and this has been the case with all the cars I've recently owned.

acter 06-10-2015 07:59 AM

Well, actually, I had a Hyundai Accent that would auto-lock after 30 seconds, if I forgot to lock it and walked away.

kkim 06-12-2015 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by John Kuhn (Post 1309054)
When we arrived, a different tech who was going to write us up said that the car will automatically lock itself unless you press the unlock button on the key fob after you get out of the car. He said all Hondas are set up this way since before the push button start feature was implemented.

Ask for him to take you out in the lot and have that demonstrated on a new car sitting there. I bet it doesn't happen. I've never heard of ALL/ANY Hondas doing this as a "feature".

I did have a similar problem on another car, though, and the problem was traced to a defective/intermittent door switch that turns the interior lights on/off when you get in/out of the car. Have them check that. It seems the door locks use that signal to know when someone has exited the vehicle and not to automatically relock the car.

John Kuhn 06-12-2015 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by kkim (Post 1309422)
Ask for him to take you out in the lot and have that demonstrated on a new car sitting there. I bet it doesn't happen. I've never heard of ALL/ANY Hondas doing this as a "feature".

I did have a similar problem on another car, though, and the problem was traced to a defective/intermittent door switch that turns the interior lights on/off when you get in/out of the car. Have them check that. It seems the door locks use that signal to know when someone has exited the vehicle and not to automatically relock the car.

Good thought on having him demonstrate the feature on another car. For me it is difficult to demonstrate the problem to him because it is intermittent, and I haven't found a consistent pattern. I also had a door switch problem on my VW once, and I agree that may be a good place to start.

Suki3 06-17-2015 09:38 AM

Once in the late 90s I was given a Cadillac DeVille "upgrade" by National Cat Rental in Minnesota. Stopped at Pizza Hut in near blizzard conditions and, when I sat down, I notice movement across the parking lot. I watched incredulously as the trunk opened all the way with snow piling in on my stuff. Had to get geared up and shuffle back out in a hurry. Funny now.
No issues with the Fit locking or unlocking unexpectedly.

Suki3 06-17-2015 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Suki3 (Post 1309976)
Once in the late 90s I was given a Cadillac DeVille "upgrade" by National Cat Rental in Minnesota. Stopped at Pizza Hut in near blizzard conditions and, when I sat down, I notice movement across the parking lot. I watched incredulously as the trunk opened all the way with snow piling in on my stuff. Had to get geared up and shuffle back out in a hurry. Funny now.
No issues with the Fit locking or unlocking unexpectedly.

"Car" rental. I did not rent a cat.

oly2 10-10-2015 04:17 PM

W've had this random locking problem ever since we got the fit (2015, "Base" 6-spd manual trans) Very annoying.

THEN, 2 days ago in the middle of the night, the theft alarm started to "honk-honk-honk", then stop, and do it again. We were cussing whatever neighbor it was - until I let the dog out and discovered it was our Fit!! (live out in the country)

One reason we chose the "Base" model was that we don't want all those bells & whistles.

Took it to the dealer & they were clueless, said there is no way to simply disable the "Security Alarm" - did not offer to take a look at it, basically just "Sorry-live with it"

-Oly2

Newbiefitfreak 10-12-2015 09:38 AM

My fit does this (EX-L Navi 2016) and my mothers CR-V (2015) does this. As long as I don't touch another door after getting out it will auto lock. I usually lock it with the button on the handle anyway so I've never noticed any intermittent issues where it doesn't lock.

Edit: I've done some self testing and if you unlock the doors through grabbing the handle but don't turn the car on the doors will always re-lock themselves. If you use the FOB the car won't re-lock and if you just get out of the car and leave it I haven't had it lock. Maybe that's the reason?

oly2 11-23-2015 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Newbiefitfreak (Post 1322991)
My fit does this (EX-L Navi 2016) and my mothers CR-V (2015) does this. As long as I don't touch another door after getting out it will auto lock. I usually lock it with the button on the handle anyway so I've never noticed any intermittent issues where it doesn't lock.

Edit: I've done some self testing and if you unlock the doors through grabbing the handle but don't turn the car on the doors will always re-lock themselves. If you use the FOB the car won't re-lock and if you just get out of the car and leave it I haven't had it lock. Maybe that's the reason?

Still have the - annoying - problem.

No, Newbiefitfreak, I always unlock with the fob (how does one "unlock the doors through grabbing the handle"?) and since I live in the country, I never lock it at home. Then sometimes at random, it's locked the next time I go to drive it.

This also seems to be somehow related to the damn alarm going off at random.

-Oly

Dick W 11-23-2015 03:33 PM

I keep the fob in my pocket. Occasionally, working on stuff around the house, say, I'll get in a position that crimps the fob buttons in my pocket and either lock the car or set off he panic button.

GoBucky 11-30-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Dick W (Post 1327417)
I keep the fob in my pocket. Occasionally, working on stuff around the house, say, I'll get in a position that crimps the fob buttons in my pocket and either lock the car or set off he panic button.

Yep, same here. I've bet most of us have done that at one time or another.

Buck Fitty 11-30-2015 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by tbFit (Post 1309115)
The only auto lock scenario that I'm aware of is the condition where the car is locked, you press the keyfob to unlock, you don't open any doors within a minute and the car will relock itself.

In my 2008 Fit, this happens even if the car is unlocked. Regardless of whether the car is locked or unlocked, if I unlock it with the remote keyfob, and don't open the door, the care will lock itself. It's the unlocking with the keyfob, and then not opening the door, that triggers the car to lock. It has nothing to do with whether the car was locked or unlocked before the keyfob button is pressed.

I don't know if that's how it works with a G3, but it's definitely the way it is with my ride.

Uncle Gary 11-30-2015 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by oly2 (Post 1327404)
Still have the - annoying - problem.

No, Newbiefitfreak, I always unlock with the fob (how does one "unlock the doors through grabbing the handle"?) and since I live in the country, I never lock it at home. Then sometimes at random, it's locked the next time I go to drive it.

This also seems to be somehow related to the damn alarm going off at random.

-Oly


The Fit EX has a capacitive switch in the inside of the driver and front passenger door handle. Touching it with your hand will unlock the door, as long as you have the fob on your person. So will spraying the door handle with a water hose, while washing the car, by the way.


Don't know if the LX has this or not.


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