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Old Jul 3, 2015 | 06:05 PM
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It would have been very surprising to have Honda integrate Android Auto for 2016. None of the Honda or Acura line does this today. Apart from this forum I could not find even a hint of progress on the Internet.
Let me help you:

A video from I/O 2014 (yes last year). You can see Android Auto running in a Honda (I think it is a Civic).


Honda's Android Auto Developer Site:

https://developer.hondasvl.com/

Also I tweeted Honda's Customer Service and this was their response:

@schnapster Hi, we'll have an announcement for select '16 models soon, but it will not be backwards compatible on previous models. ^ND

I also tweeted them a month previous and they said the same thing.

They are developing it......unfortunately they are being tight-lipped on what models will have it.
 
Old Jul 5, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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My expectations for MY2016 were that they might change the gear ratio for the 6th overdrive gear for the 6MT, to match the CVT, thus lowering the engine rpms when on the highway. Comparing 2016 to 2015 on the US Honda site indicates there is no such change.

A volume control knob would have been nice as well.
On the 2nd model year of a vehicle? Only the 2014 Civic got changes because it was very badly received. The Fit is selling very well so the only change I might have expected would be CarPlay/Android Auto support. 6th gear on the MT is tight, but it was the same for the Acura Integra GS-R/RSX transmissions....which you can guess the parts bin the Fit tranny came from. Likely 2017/18 will get a facelift with a redo in 2019/20. That is typical Honda cycle.
 
Old Jul 5, 2015 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by phillyfit08
Have you seen the expected stats on "connected" cars? Also if you check out their Facebook page, they are definitely catering to the younger crowd. Car buying cycles for some last 8-10 years. I was in the market for a 2015 to replace my 2008 Fit. They did not offer Android Auto so I did not buy (or even Android support). I will buy a new car this year because their is a plethora of cars now offering Android Auto. My next car should last me 8-10 more years......so yes the technology is quite important. Lastly, car manufacturer's stereos have always been the worst. Consumer reports called Honda's Infotainment one of the worst/confusing designs they have seen (I am paraphrasing). As we know Honda almost never updates their entertainment, Google (and Apple) I am sure they will constantly update theirs (along with their nav systems, which are leaps and bounds better than Honda's nav system).

In short, yes Android integration is VERY important.
No I haven't checked that out...I don't have a FAKEbook account. Never have and never will. I don't need to tell people when I'm dropping a deuce or walking the dog. The whole "put yourself out there" thing is just dumb. YMMV.

But hopefully Honda helps out you certain cell phone people in the future. I'm sure they are working on it in some way.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2015 | 10:54 PM
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No I haven't checked that out...I don't have a FAKEbook account. Never have and never will. I don't need to tell people when I'm dropping a deuce or walking the dog. The whole "put yourself out there" thing is just dumb. YMMV.

But hopefully Honda helps out you certain cell phone people in the future. I'm sure they are working on it in some way.
This is pure entertainment. I truly love the strong opinions. 1.44 BILLION active Facebook users are officially dumb.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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This is pure entertainment. I truly love the strong opinions. 1.44 BILLION active Facebook users are officially dumb.
Although I am in IT, there are a lot of people that are not, and I totally understand this. Tighter Android integration for the Fit would also encourage increased distracted driving. Not everyone supports this addiction. It is illegal and dangerous. Note that there are 1.44B supposedly active Facebook users, out of a total 7B people in the world. Facebook and social media are important to only a part of the target market for autos. In Honda's case it is not high priority enough to rush integration.

Personally I would rather have a car that drives well. I acknowledge that Honda/auto industry is not there yet for Android Auto and I'm not rushing their technology.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TorontoBoy
Although I am in IT, there are a lot of people that are not, and I totally understand this. Tighter Android integration for the Fit would also encourage increased distracted driving. Not everyone supports this addiction. It is illegal and dangerous. Note that there are 1.44B supposedly active Facebook users, out of a total 7B people in the world. Facebook and social media are important to only a part of the target market for autos. In Honda's case it is not high priority enough to rush integration.

Personally I would rather have a car that drives well. I acknowledge that Honda/auto industry is not there yet for Android Auto and I'm not rushing their technology.
I also do IT. I do not do Facebook or text or even answer my phone when driving (I adamantly against it). Some people just assume that is why I want Android Auto. In fact, I really only want it for the navigation (and possibly some of the audio apps). I can guarantee, that Honda's navigation is completely subpar Google Maps. I commute over 100 miles a day and navigation is extremely important. It would be very nice to have that voice controlled.

Honda had a prototype of Android Auto running in mid-2014. They have the technology available but I am sure some stupid executive is saying "it will cannibalize on our existing nav option". Guess what? It will because Honda's nav is terrible (when compared to Google). The real question is......will Honda provide a better product? It is in their court........
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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...I really only want it for the navigation (and possibly some of the audio apps). I can guarantee, that Honda's navigation is completely subpar Google Maps. I commute over 100 miles a day and navigation is extremely important. It would be very nice to have that voice controlled..
I agree that Google Maps is a great app. Currently for Android Auto you're only limited to the 2015 Hyundai Sonata, and they only announced it at the end of May 2015. It is still so early days. You may have to wait for a long time for other car manufacturers to get on board. I'm sure Kia will be next, as they are close to Hyundai. Toyota, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz have not even signed on to the Open Automotive Alliance.

You could rip out your head unit and install a Pioneer unit that supports Android Auto, for ~$1k, but there might be bugs.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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I agree that Google Maps is a great app. Currently for Android Auto you're only limited to the 2015 Hyundai Sonata, and they only announced it at the end of May 2015. It is still so early days. You may have to wait for a long time for other car manufacturers to get on board. I'm sure Kia will be next, as they are close to Hyundai. Toyota, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz have not even signed on to the Open Automotive Alliance.

You could rip out your head unit and install a Pioneer unit that supports Android Auto, for ~$1k, but there might be bugs.
Actually Toyota is going to use Ford's Sync3 interface which will allow people to install Android Auto (and Carplay). Granted the only OEM unit that is out now is for the Sonata but other carmakers have pledged to produce Android Auto. I think I wrote this in a different thread (I am only naming the ones that I remember):

Ford (via Sync3)
Toyota (via Sync3)
Chevy (12 out of 16 models.....including the spark)
GM
VW (all models)
Hyundai (still not sure which additional models.....I have also seen the prototypes in Kias)


Honda has not even uttered a single word other than joining the OAA back when Android Auto was introduced at Google I/O 2014. They should at least tell us. Right now I am planning on buying VW Golf but that would switch back to a Fit (or maybe even an HRV) should Honda actually care to put out a semi-decent "infotainment" unit. Right now, their current one doesn't even support Android, let alone Android Auto.......which is really sad from a technology standpoint.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Android Auto only available to a theoretical 12% of Android users

Even if you could get a car with Android Auto, it'll only work with Android 5.0 Lollipop, Android's current OS version, which is only installed in 12% of all Android phones. Android Auto ignores the other 88% of Android users.

General public -> smartphone -> Android -> Android 5.0+ Lollipop -> Android Auto

It will take years before more than a small fraction of auto buyers are ready for the jump. I can see Honda's reluctance to invest heavily in this right now.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Even if you could get a car with Android Auto, it'll only work with Android 5.0 Lollipop, Android's current OS version, which is only installed in 12% of all Android phones. Android Auto ignores the other 88% of Android users.

General public -> smartphone -> Android -> Android 5.0+ Lollipop -> Android Auto

It will take years before more than a small fraction of auto buyers are ready for the jump. I can see Honda's reluctance to invest heavily in this right now.
Google said that it would initially only be supported by 5.0 and above. That could change.

They are already invested in Android Auto:

https://developer.hondasvl.com/#development (also since 2014)

They just won't announce it because they are probably afraid it will cannibalize on their nav sales.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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I kind of expecting them to raise the height of center arm rest (front seat), so that we can actually rest our arm on it
just fyi, i thought this also until i figured out how to lower the driver seat down a couple inches, then the armrest was at an acceptable height.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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just fyi, i thought this also until i figured out how to lower the driver seat down a couple inches, then the armrest was at an acceptable height.
Please expand on this!
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by raynist
Please expand on this!
https://i.imgur.com/Jxq5kcP.png

item # 15 is the seat height adjuster handle. push it down repeatedly to lower, or pull it up repeatedly to raise.

when i got my 2015 fit, the seat was up all the way and thus the armrest/center console was too low to rest my arm on comfortably. lowering the seat down fixes this issue for me.
 
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dankoman
https://i.imgur.com/Jxq5kcP.png

item # 15 is the seat height adjuster handle. push it down repeatedly to lower, or pull it up repeatedly to raise.

when i got my 2015 fit, the seat was up all the way and thus the armrest/center console was too low to rest my arm on comfortably. lowering the seat down fixes this issue for me.
Ah, ok - I did this and it is still too low.
 
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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are these the Japan models?

Are the 2016 FIT's now hitting the dealerships built in Japan?
A previous poster revealed that the first batch of 2016's would be built in Japan and identified by a "J" at the beginning of the VIN.

However.......he/she also stated that the 2016's would not be available until October. So i'm not sure what to believe.

Thanks,
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Regarding Jp fits

I was the proud owner of a modern grey metallic 15 cvt. it was totaled three days ago. The car was paid for and title in hand and thankfully I purchased "the keeper" my insurance and they're replacing my fit with a new 2016. I'm buying from a st.louis dealership and called around. There are a few 2016 lx available and the first 2016 ex arriving to the area is a Mexico built pearl orchid white cvt.

None of the stl dealers have any Jp models in quee and all the fits coming in are Mexican built. From my particular dealership I will be the first to be sold a ex. It will arrive July 25th.

You'll never here of any paint chip issues from me as I get my cars clear 3m bra and my insurance will also cover this on my new fit.

So 17,000 miles and and a model year upgrade to thw color I wanted originally for no cost other than a likely premium hike.

So Japanese built fits coming to stl anytime soon and sales managers don't even know about it.

And the October deliver is crap bc the 2016 fits are out now and ex trims are arriving in a few weeks.

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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Canada: 2016 Fits, supply of 2015 Fits, no cash incentives

Here in Ontario, Canada, the release date from my local dealer is October 2015.

As for buying a 2015 MT, there are no DX MTs left in Ontario, and there are only 5 LX MTs left in Ontario. There is no cash incentive for any 2015 Fit, regardless of trim. There is a $2,800 difference between a DX and an LX. Honda seems to make getting a lower price somewhat difficult.

I think I'll wait for the 2016s to come out. If there is no cash incentive to buy a 2015 I might as well buy the newer model, though there are probably only superficial changes to the 2016.
 
Old Jul 27, 2015 | 07:14 AM
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You'll never here of any paint chip issues from me as I get my cars clear 3m bra and my insurance will also cover this on my new fit.
Your insurance company pays to have the bra installed, nice!
 
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 02:42 AM
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So Japanese built fits coming to stl anytime soon and sales managers don't even know about it.

And the October deliver is crap bc the 2016 fits are out now and ex trims are arriving in a few weeks.
According to the production numbers quoted in the Honda announcement, the Japanese production is supposed to supplement Mexican production, not replace it. It might well be that some Mexican production is still trickling in and the latest of those are being designated as 2016 models, since there is no difference between the model years. It allows Honda to charge the higher 2016 price.

Whether Japanese cars arrive in October remains to be seen. A dealer sales manager would find out about it at about the time the cars arrive on the trailer. Even if they did know at this time, why would they tell any potential customer that a more desirable car might arrive soon?

If some Japanese cars enter the mix it will be interesting to see how they are handled. Will dealers make a big thing of cars from the mothership or will they keep their mouths shut against the possibility of the Mexican-built cars being perceived as inferior?
 
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 07:35 AM
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If some Japanese cars enter the mix it will be interesting to see how they are handled. Will dealers make a big thing of cars from the mothership or will they keep their mouths shut against the possibility of the Mexican-built cars being perceived as inferior?
I agree, especially since most car buyers don't know or even care where their car was manufactured/assembled. If the dealers start touting the superiority of the Japan-built models, the public may start to question the reliability of the Mexican-built cars. For the salesmen, this will be like shooting themselves in the foot since the vast majority, if not all, of the models on their lot will be Mexican-built.
 



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