I read an article about a car-jacking in the newspaper which made me ponder how that would work with a Smart Entry Fit. To better understand it, I simulated a car-jacking in my driveway.

I started the car with the key fob in my pocket. The car beeped several times when I exited with the engine idling.

After tossing the key fob in the house I returned to the car. The car briefly beeped and flashed "No Key" in the information display, but I was able to drive away keyless !

 

When I bought my EX, the salesman forgot to fill it up. He jumped in the running car to drive off, and the car came to a halt in like 25 feet. I had the key, he didn't, and he forgot he needed it. So you probably wouldn't get far. Great feature.

 

Yeah, it keeps the guy with a gun from getting too far from you before it pisses him off.

 

You've posted this several times in the past year and I have to ask, are you absolutely sure the car stopped running at the dealer's? Is it possible the salesman stopped very abruptly, got out and asked you for the key, and you assumed that the engine immobilized? Is it also possible that he was overemphasizing a feature because he was a salesman, maybe he hit the button and shut the car off and the got out like "Man! That immobilizer! What a fantastic feature!!"

I ask simply because you are they only person on the forum that describes this feature like this, and when other people try it, it doesn't work like this at all. My friend literally drove a mile and half away from me and my key, and then came back to get me; the car just says "no key" on the dash. Other people on the forum have also said their car didn't stop running when they tried this.

Also, from a safety standpoint, how could you have a car that is designed to shut off in traffic, for any reason at all? That is incredibly, incredibly dangerous for every motorist that would be around you. It seems unlikely that this would be the solution, to stop a car jacking... The engine just shuts off? That always sounded insane.

So without saying you're wrong, I don't think you saw what you think you saw. Especially if it was only 25 feet away. I may be wrong. There has just been nobody else to describe what you did, and in my own test, it didn't happen. Also, it seems the most ridiculously unsafe way to thwart a crime.

It makes more sense that there is simply no way to start the car without the key present - hence, "Immobilized." If the car is running, it will drive, key or not. But when you stop the engine, there is no way to restart it. I.e. if you carjack me, you will never be able to get the car restarted again after you stop the engine.

 

It's possible the salesperson made it up, but it doesn't seem likely from what I saw happen. The car stopped short with engine running, and the sales person deserves an Oscar if he was acting. I'll test it one day if I have the time.

 

"Car stopped short with the engine running," - sounds like something the salesman did. If the engine was still running, what would stop the car?


I'm pretty sure, for safety reasons, the car will run just fine without the fob until you turn it off and try to restart it. New Harley-Davidsons with their security system work this way from what I hear. There are several stories on the H-D forum of somebody starting their bike with the fob in the garage nearby, riding somewhere, then being unable to restart the bike to come home.


Unlike a car, the bike has no "inside". The fob just has to be in range.

 

Here is the patent for Honda Smart Key --> Smart Key System

Unless I overlooked it, there is no mention that the smart key system will shut the car off while it is still running. Glance it over if you want.

Also, think about this for a second. Imagine if you were Honda and you implemented this feature for your vehicle. Instead of you having the key on you, your significant other has it in their pocket beside you. You drop them off (Or your key falls out of your pocket onto the ground), drive away and immediately merge on the highway. Can you imagine the legal problems and class action lawsuits that would follow after the accidents that would come from this feature?

It'd only take a couple minutes to test for yourself. Everyone else says it does not work this way and there is nothing anywhere to support that it does.

Happy driving!

 

And I have the means to piss back (BFG) Unofficial accessory SP101.

 

I'm convinced it will run until the tank goes dry. A few weeks after I got my car I started it up, threw the fob on the lawn and took off. I cruised around town for maybe 15 min and never had a problem, only the key icon flashing (I want to say there was some beeping too but I'm not sure).

 

When I saw the title, I thought it was about raising the car to change a flat tire.

 

I have to ask why you threw it out, and then drove off?

 

One thing about a Honda manual shift, it would be difficult to hack from dead start. Gotta push that clutch. That might be true of other manual shift cars, but having never driven one, I don't know.

Remote start would be a pointless accessory would be useless here even for an automatic. Leaving a car running unattended is against the law in Metro Nashville.

 

I was testing to see whether the car would run keyless after reading some thread here that it would die without a fob in range, that's all. My neighborhood is so boring I could probably toss a stack of $20 bills on the lawn and no one would notice.

 

I'll trade my sometimes annoying neighborhood for your boring one.

 

If a car-jacker wants my car, he can have it. I'll even hand over the keys over willingly. I'm not about to risk my life over a car. You want it? Take it.

Plus, its insured. It just means I get to buy a new car.

 

Yes, the Honda smart key system will allow you to drive the car without it turning off if the key is not in the vehicle, but was inside when originally cranking. This is what allows you to start the car by keeping the fob next to the start button during cranking if your fob battery has died. The car won't turn off when you displace the fob outside of its extremely limited range. Likewise, although not very probable, an aged fob may have enough juice to start the car in a normal way and then the voltage drops down enough that it is no longer functioning properly just minutes later; if the car stalled by design, this would be a huge safety and litigation concern for Honda as the electric steering would fail as would power brakes.

 

I haven't tested it, but it makes sense that I misinterpreted what happened. I just assumed it was the immobilizer, but it was probably the salesperson seeing the "No Key" and stopping before he gassed the car up and got stuck. Especially after Bach tested. I stand corrected.

 

if u had a MT u can pretend to accidentally stall it, then run away with the fob in your pocket.

 

 

You're weird.