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stembridge 04-26-2016 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by charlie a.k.a. chuck (Post 1342998)
Where did you buy the rear bumper?

Boom Plus Toys. They took several months to deliver, which made me quite nervous!

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stembridge 04-26-2016 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by gd3~fit (Post 1340536)
JDM rear �� So much nicer looking.

For JDM rear bumper from GD to GE to GK, the USDM rear crash always had to be removed or either cut. Look at J's Racing and Cusco, they have a rear monocoque bar that replaces the rear crash bar.

And if you source the JDM rear fender liners they'll fit spot on along with rear mudguards. Check out Lings Honda in UK or japanparts.com or Rakuten Japan or Amazon Japan for the parts, they will have them. Lings you can source the part numbers you need.

My google-fu is quite lacking here… I've not been able to find any info at any of the sites mentioned (or by "shotgun searching" either).

Anyone got a link to a JDM, UK or AUDM site that sells replacement parts (similar to http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com/a...ariable-engine)?

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stembridge 04-30-2016 09:46 PM

Weapon R Cold Air Intake
 
http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...016_intake.jpg

Here's the latest addition… a Weapon R cold air intake. The install was fairly straightforward, although the fit of the unit is tight and I had to sub in a longer second hose to the breather pipe hard tubing as the connection on the intake sits higher than where it is on the OEM part.

I took my wife to dinner after the install, so I didn't get a chance to open it up :p but there is a different tone to the engine that I think I'm going to like.

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TofuShop 05-01-2016 12:29 AM

looks nice. can you post a sound clip?

stembridge 05-02-2016 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by TofuShop (Post 1343445)
looks nice. can you post a sound clip?

Let's try this:

2015 Honda Fit Sound Test

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2Rismo2 05-03-2016 07:51 AM

Thanks for taking the time to post that vid. Exhaust sounds good. Can't really hear the intake to be honest.

Any performance increase you can feel? Or is it just sound and looks?

stembridge 05-03-2016 11:14 AM

I can only go by "seat of the pants," but I would say it does feel a bit snappier. (c:

It's weird, but the exhaust sounds a bit raspier to me after adding the intake, which I like.

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TofuShop 05-06-2016 05:25 PM

Sounds pretty good, not too overbearing. nice!

JinKisaragi 05-07-2016 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by stembridge (Post 1330239)
This post gathers info I've posted elsewhere on my wheel and tire upgrades into one place.

If you have a (US market) EX or higher trim 2015 Fit (GK), your cast aluminum OEM wheels have the following specs:

16x6 size
4-100 bolt pattern
56.1 hub bore
+53 offset

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...t_ex_wheel.jpg

OEM tire size is 185/55R16, and earlier cars seem to have come with Bridgestones (as did mine, with a build sequence in the 196-- range). Later cars seem to be coming with Firestone tires.

Adding a 20-25mm spacer to the rear wheels will bring them out nearly flush with the fender and is an inexpensive way to change the look of the car.

LX Fits have the following specs for their steel wheels:

15x6 size
4x100 bolt pattern
56.1mm hub bore
+53 offset

Here's a pic of my EX with 16x7 +40 wheels (Rota RB) and 205/50R16 tires (Continental ExtremeContact DWS) installed:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...rota_rrear.jpg

There is no interference when steering lock-to-lock, but if I hit a big bump, the front tires *will* kiss the fender (actually the plastic liner where it meets the fender). With stock alignment, the +40 offset (OEM is +53), and extra 1" wheel width puts the tire about 23mm farther outboard than OEM.

I chose this combination partly because I wanted a Minilite-style wheel and also because I wanted the tire diameter to be identical to stock.

And here's a pic of my car with 15x6 Sport Tuning T9 wheels (+43 offset - required a centering ring) and 185/60R-15 Firestone Winterforce SL tires installed:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...15_fitsnow.jpg

I chose to go -1 on my winter wheels/tires in order to have more rubber between me and our horribly potholed rural Illinois roads (worse in the Winter & Spring). Having grown up in the Southern USA, these were my first snow tires ever, and they seemed to do quite well!

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You have any rubbing issues in the front with the Sport Tuning T9 wheels + 185/60 tire combo? Was planning on getting wheels/tires with everything of the same dimension as yours but haven't because a fear of it rubbing. Thanks.

stembridge 05-07-2016 05:27 PM

No, the T9s don't rub at all (at least, not with the tires I have).

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stembridge 05-08-2016 10:43 AM

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...forsprings.jpg

Hmmm. Something's been up out in the shop this weekend. Stay tuned!

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2Rismo2 05-08-2016 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by stembridge (Post 1344100)
http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...forsprings.jpg

Hmmm. Something's been up out in the shop this weekend. Stay tuned!

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Front springs?

stembridge 05-08-2016 05:06 PM

Front Springs
 
http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...forsprings.jpg

2Rismo2 guessed it correctly - I finally got time enough to finish my spring updates, as well as install camber bolts.

First step is to remove the strut nut covers:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs01.jpg

On one side, the nut came right off, but I had to use a hex key on the other side to get it started:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...springs01b.jpg

On the strut itself, you need to disconnect the brake line support and ABS line:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs02.jpg

Then disconnect the swaybar linkage:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs03.jpg

Finally, remove both strut bolts - note the floor jack supporting the a-arm and knuckle, which you want to keep from flopping out so you don't inadvertently pull the axle shaft out of the transaxle.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs04.jpg

With the strut out of the way, I used some cord to tie up the knuckle.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs05.jpg

Over on the bench, I used spring compressors to take the pressure off the spring (I read in several online accounts that there's very little spring pressure when you back the nut off, but didn't want to take any chances). I tried using a wrench and hex key to remove the nut, but no dice until I hit it with my impact wrench, which spun it right off.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs06.jpg

Here's the new RSR spring next to the OEM spring (and the new camber bolt):

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs07.jpg

Remove the rubber and plastic spring bushings and install on the new springs, then put everything back together in reverse order. The camber bolts I used did not require elongating the holes, so they just slipped right in. I realized after taking this photo that I had the long tabbed washer facing the wrong direction for the camber change I wanted, so I had to back it off and rotate per the instructions.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs08.jpg

Reinstall your sway bar links, ABS and brake lines, underhood covers and make sure everything's torqued properly. Put your wheels back on and it's time for an alignment! I imagine the car will sit a little lower in front after I drive it a little so the springs settle in.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road..._springs10.jpg

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stembridge 05-08-2016 05:20 PM

Rear Axle Shims
 
http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...forsprings.jpg

I figured as long as I had the car up on stands, I might as well tackle the rear axle shim install, too.

Even though my car is only 1.5 years old (37K miles), the brake drums were already recalcitrant. Some penetrating fluid and a good bash with the brass hammer convinced 'em otherwise! With the drum off, access to the four bolts that hold the axle stub in place is easy.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...16_shims01.jpg

I found after experimentation that you don't even need to remove the brake line, parking brake cable or ABS line. It's a bit tight getting the stub out past the mounting plate (be careful to not yank too hard and bend the brake line).

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...16_shims03.jpg

My shims came with a chart on which you plotted the desired toe and camber to determine how to orient the shim.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...16_shims05.jpg

I just wanted to change toe and leave camber alone, so these were my settings:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...16_shims06.jpg

Armed with that knowledge, a template showed where to trim the shim to clear the mounting bolts:

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...16_shims07.jpg

Carefully slip the axle stub back in place and bolt and torque everything back down. The brake drum slips back over the studs, install your wheels and you're done!

Here's my alignment sheet from about a month ago (before camber bolts and shims), and I'll post an update after I get the car realigned. The handwritten notes are what I'm shooting for.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...salignment.jpg

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stembridge 05-08-2016 05:25 PM

LX Grille and Tow Hook
 
My final mod while I had the car up for springs, camber bolts and shims was to replace my EX grille with an LX grille. Since I'm planning to run my first-ever AutoX in a couple weeks, I also dug out my OEM tow hook, gave it a wipe of laquer thinner and then painted it red before installing in the front bumper. I didn't like the gaping hole left by removing the cap, so I drilled a hole in it and installed the hook through that.

http://www.peachtreeprairie.com/road...pringsdone.jpg

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jhn 05-08-2016 09:10 PM

it looks really good. You're the test subject for the shims. I've had them for over a year and I just couldn't bring myself to install them. Did the hubs torque down properly to the torsion beam with the shims? I've heard horror stories of them crushing and not torquing to spec. I look forward to your alignment sheet. If this works for you, I'm next to do it :-)

jhn 05-08-2016 09:24 PM

Oh, as for negative camber, I found -1.7 is excellent for daily driving. Tire wear actually improved because most of the wear I get in stock form is on the outside. I have a completely stock Fit as well and these cars roll over so much turning onto on ramps and stuff the camber actually goes positive. -1.7 has no ill handling either, like tramlining on tar seams or brake squirm. Handles really well.

A/Xing and track is much more aggressive and I soon found -1.7 isn't enough. I'm at -2.5 and it's a little squirmy on freeways with tar lines, but only at 70+ mph. I am also noticing higher inside tire temps with -2.5, but -1.7 stayed virtually the same temp as stock 0 camber after long freeway driving.

Call the alignment shop and let them know what you want and ask if they will do it. It's surprising how many shops don't understand what you're trying to achieve.

stembridge 05-08-2016 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by jhn (Post 1344139)
it looks really good. You're the test subject for the shims. I've had them for over a year and I just couldn't bring myself to install them. Did the hubs torque down properly to the torsion beam with the shims? I've heard horror stories of them crushing and not torquing to spec. I look forward to your alignment sheet. If this works for you, I'm next to do it :-)

Thanks. Since there are no shop manuals out for the GK yet (that I know of - other than the expensive subscription service, which I don't have), I used the TLAR* method, and they seemed to snug down evenly and with no apparent problems. The alignment will tell!

Thanks for the tip on camber, too. My autoxing coworker (Miata) recommended starting with -1.0°, but I'll go ahead and use -1.7° and see how it goes. The shop I use does some resto and rod work and should be cool with a custom alignment.

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* "That Looks About Right"

Myxalplyx 05-08-2016 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by stembridge (Post 1343599)
Let's try this:

2015 Honda Fit Sound Test

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Thank you for posting up the video. Sounds nice! Great pics of the suspension setup being installed too.

2Rismo2 05-09-2016 07:26 AM

Your new stance looks great with your rims and fatter tires! Now remind me, you got the Down SUS springs right, not the superdown? I was looking to get the Down SUS ones because I don't want much of a drop, but I do want to stiffen the suspension. That Mugen lip would really finish it off if you went that route.

The stock tow hook looks good painted like that. For the front grill, what's the difference? The LX grill just doesn't have that chrome embellishment in the front? Any other differences? Why not shoot it with some dark paint?

As for tightening specs, I always went with German spec. "Gutentite" Avoid Russian spec of "Brokanoff" lol


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