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tk9985 04-23-2019 11:07 PM

Lowering Springs on Stock Shocks/Struts
 
Hey guys, this is a topic that has been discussed in depth but I’d like to get suggestions on lowering springs. Looking to lower my Fit, not a lot, just enough. The RSR Superdown springs have caught my eye. What’s too low before you start destroying the stock shocks prematurely and what do y’all suggest as a good lowering spring to run?

GolNat 04-24-2019 04:50 PM

Any lowering spring will prematurely wear the OEM shocks faster and not have the correct dampening.

evilchargerfan 04-26-2019 11:24 PM

interested in swift springs + koni orange's?

tk9985 04-26-2019 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1427647)
interested in swift springs + koni orange's?

yah man that would be a sweet setup!

JingJangJoe 04-27-2019 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by tk9985 (Post 1427492)
Hey guys, this is a topic that has been discussed in depth but I’d like to get suggestions on lowering springs. Looking to lower my Fit, not a lot, just enough. The RSR Superdown springs have caught my eye. What’s too low before you start destroying the stock shocks prematurely and what do y’all suggest as a good lowering spring to run?

Do let us know which springs you chose and post some pics for us to admire..... :)

tk9985 04-27-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by JingJangJoe (Post 1427659)
Do let us know which springs you chose and post some pics for us to admire..... :)

haha for sure the more I keep reading about the lowering springs I do worry they’ll end up blowing out my shocks :ohnoes: I actually think I may hold off on springs until I can afford to put new shocks with it or just go coilovers.

I did just order wheels tho! So I plan on doing a build thread as I have a few more mod ideas

JingJangJoe 04-27-2019 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by tk9985 (Post 1427663)
haha for sure the more I keep reading about the lowering springs I do worry they’ll end up blowing out my shocks :ohnoes: I actually think I may hold off on springs until I can afford to put new shocks with it or just go coilovers.

I did just order wheels tho! So I plan on doing a build thread as I have a few more mod ideas

Hi,
I wouldn't worry about blowing out the shocks. The higher spring rate may wear them out sooner but then again, if you travel over rough roads every day and carry heavy load, even the OE suspension will wear out faster than expected.

There are too many variables so just go ahead if you decide to use just lowering springs. It's the cheapest way to lower the car and improve overall handling.

You may want to checkout the Springs by Spoon Sports. The spring rates are slightly higher than OE but yet offer enough comfort level and lowers the car to a nice height.

Good luck.... :)

Rob H 04-27-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by JingJangJoe (Post 1427664)
Hi,
I wouldn't worry about blowing out the shocks. The higher spring rate may wear them out sooner but then again, if you travel over rough roads every day and carry heavy load, even the OE suspension will wear out faster than expected.


Not really accurate. It has little or nothing to do with spring rate. They usually blow because the shock isn't operating in the proper range of motion that it was designed for. For sake of discussion there's 12" of travel and with the stock springs. Normal at rest is at 6" or in the middle.. With the lowering springs at rest was just moved whatever the drop was? Now the at rest might be at 4.5"?

JingJangJoe 04-27-2019 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Rob H (Post 1427665)
Not really accurate. It has little or nothing to do with spring rate. They usually blow because the shock isn't operating in the proper range of motion that it was designed for. For sake of discussion there's 12" of travel and with the stock springs. Normal at rest is at 6" or in the middle.. With the lowering springs at rest was just moved whatever the drop was? Now the at rest might be at 4.5"?

Sorry. But i disagree. The absorber is just a tube filled with oil and a piston with valves moving up and down inside the tube. So it does not matter whether the piston is lower or higher. It will still perform its job regardless of height change.

The only damage that will occur if the ride height is too low is that tge shock bottoms out, causing impact damages to the housing and the piston.

tk9985 04-27-2019 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Rob H (Post 1427665)
Not really accurate. It has little or nothing to do with spring rate. They usually blow because the shock isn't operating in the proper range of motion that it was designed for. For sake of discussion there's 12" of travel and with the stock springs. Normal at rest is at 6" or in the middle.. With the lowering springs at rest was just moved whatever the drop was? Now the at rest might be at 4.5"?


Originally Posted by JingJangJoe (Post 1427664)
Hi,
I wouldn't worry about blowing out the shocks. The higher spring rate may wear them out sooner but then again, if you travel over rough roads every day and carry heavy load, even the OE suspension will wear out faster than expected.

There are too many variables so just go ahead if you decide to use just lowering springs. It's the cheapest way to lower the car and improve overall handling.

You may want to checkout the Springs by Spoon Sports. The spring rates are slightly higher than OE but yet offer enough comfort level and lowers the car to a nice height.

Good luck.... :)

both good points lol the line between what’s good for the car and bad in terms of stuff like this seems to be blurred, there’s a big grey area it seems.

Alfa38 04-27-2019 11:43 AM

It does have to do with both the spring rate and the height. If lowering the car and using a spring rate that is not higher than the original taller spring, the shock is most likely to bottom out because the spring is not tall enough or stiff enough to keep the shock from bottoming. This will damage the shock. The spring's function is to support the weight of the car, and the shock's function is to control the rate of motion in compression as well as rebound.

dantheman1689 01-15-2021 05:54 PM

So what did you end up going with? I just got some RSR Super Down Springs and plan to install next month on the stock shocks.

tk9985 01-15-2021 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by dantheman1689 (Post 1455557)
So what did you end up going with? I just got some RSR Super Down Springs and plan to install next month on the stock shocks.

I ended up getting a set of the Eibach lowering springs. They had a really good sale on them. Ride quality on stock shocks is good enough, body roll is definitely reduced. I’d venture to say your Super Down springs will feel about the same, I believe the amount they lower the car is similar.

RD36 01-22-2021 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1427647)
interested in swift springs + koni orange's?

Yeah, I am.


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