New guy, few Fit Sport and CVt questions
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New guy, few Fit Sport and CVt questions
Hello everyone,
Long time Honda guy here that gave Ford a chance with a Fiesta and well, I want back into Honda with the Fit!
I am going to check out the Sport model with a CVT. I have driven manual all my life (I am almost 50) but I am intrigued by the CVT. I have a few question that hopefully someone can help with.
1. In Sport mode using the paddle shifters, will the CVT still up and downshift by itself, or do you retain complete control over the "gears"?
2. When in Sport mode and using the paddles, is there a "gear" number shown on the dash?
3. How many "gears" does the CVT have in Sport mode with the CVT?
I woud probably get a manual but the complete lack of availability puts any thought of that to rest.
Thank you for and help or input
Long time Honda guy here that gave Ford a chance with a Fiesta and well, I want back into Honda with the Fit!
I am going to check out the Sport model with a CVT. I have driven manual all my life (I am almost 50) but I am intrigued by the CVT. I have a few question that hopefully someone can help with.
1. In Sport mode using the paddle shifters, will the CVT still up and downshift by itself, or do you retain complete control over the "gears"?
2. When in Sport mode and using the paddles, is there a "gear" number shown on the dash?
3. How many "gears" does the CVT have in Sport mode with the CVT?
I woud probably get a manual but the complete lack of availability puts any thought of that to rest.
Thank you for and help or input
Hello everyone,
Long time Honda guy here that gave Ford a chance with a Fiesta and well, I want back into Honda with the Fit!
I am going to check out the Sport model with a CVT. I have driven manual all my life (I am almost 50) but I am intrigued by the CVT. I have a few question that hopefully someone can help with.
1. In Sport mode using the paddle shifters, will the CVT still up and downshift by itself, or do you retain complete control over the "gears"?
Yes, you retain control. Only thing I haven't tested but it's supposed to work where if you are about to hit redline, it's supposed to shift up. If you are slowing down, it will shift down as well and I've verified this.
2. When in Sport mode and using the paddles, is there a "gear" number shown on the dash?
Yes the gear is shown
3. How many "gears" does the CVT have in Sport mode with the CVT?
7 gears
I woud probably get a manual but the complete lack of availability puts any thought of that to rest.
Thank you for and help or input
Long time Honda guy here that gave Ford a chance with a Fiesta and well, I want back into Honda with the Fit!
I am going to check out the Sport model with a CVT. I have driven manual all my life (I am almost 50) but I am intrigued by the CVT. I have a few question that hopefully someone can help with.
1. In Sport mode using the paddle shifters, will the CVT still up and downshift by itself, or do you retain complete control over the "gears"?
Yes, you retain control. Only thing I haven't tested but it's supposed to work where if you are about to hit redline, it's supposed to shift up. If you are slowing down, it will shift down as well and I've verified this.
2. When in Sport mode and using the paddles, is there a "gear" number shown on the dash?
Yes the gear is shown
3. How many "gears" does the CVT have in Sport mode with the CVT?
7 gears
I woud probably get a manual but the complete lack of availability puts any thought of that to rest.
Thank you for and help or input
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Thanks very much for the reply!
Just so I am sure I understand correctly, even if you are in sport mode using the paddles the transmission will shift automatically before redline? And if the revs get too low the CVT will downshift by itself the same way?
Thank you very much.
Just so I am sure I understand correctly, even if you are in sport mode using the paddles the transmission will shift automatically before redline? And if the revs get too low the CVT will downshift by itself the same way?
Thank you very much.
Thanks very much for the reply!
Just so I am sure I understand correctly, even if you are in sport mode using the paddles the transmission will shift automatically before redline? And if the revs get too low the CVT will downshift by itself the same way?
Thank you very much.
Just so I am sure I understand correctly, even if you are in sport mode using the paddles the transmission will shift automatically before redline? And if the revs get too low the CVT will downshift by itself the same way?
Thank you very much.
)This is what it says in the manual:
17-Speed Manual Shift Mode
To improve fuel economy, the transmission may shift
up to a higher speed than the seventh under certain
circumstances. In this case, the number in the shift
indicator remains as 7.
In the 7-speed manual shift mode, the transmission
shifts up or down by operating either paddle shifter
under the following conditions:
Shift Up: The engine speed reaches the lowest
threshold of the higher speed position.
Shift Down: The engine speed reaches the highest
threshold of the lower speed position.
When the engine speed reaches near the
tachometer’s red zone, the transmission shifts up
automatically.
When the engine speed reaches the lowest threshold
of the selected speed position, the transmission shifts
down automatically.
Operating the paddle shifters on slippery surfaces
may cause the tires to lock up. In this case, the 7-
speed manual shift mode is canceled and In this case, the 7-
speed manual shift mode is canceled and goes back
to the normal D driving mode.
To improve fuel economy, the transmission may shift
up to a higher speed than the seventh under certain
circumstances. In this case, the number in the shift
indicator remains as 7.
In the 7-speed manual shift mode, the transmission
shifts up or down by operating either paddle shifter
under the following conditions:
Shift Up: The engine speed reaches the lowest
threshold of the higher speed position.
Shift Down: The engine speed reaches the highest
threshold of the lower speed position.
When the engine speed reaches near the
tachometer’s red zone, the transmission shifts up
automatically.
When the engine speed reaches the lowest threshold
of the selected speed position, the transmission shifts
down automatically.
Operating the paddle shifters on slippery surfaces
may cause the tires to lock up. In this case, the 7-
speed manual shift mode is canceled and In this case, the 7-
speed manual shift mode is canceled and goes back
to the normal D driving mode.
Last edited by 2Rismo2; Oct 28, 2019 at 12:45 PM.
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Since you're looking at CVT vs Stick with the Fit, the other important factor that I see a lot of people comparing is highway RPMs. The CVT lets this car run barely over 2K at 70mph, but Honda skimped the Fit's 6 speed manual and didn't give us a true overdrive gear. So it runs around 3K or more at 70mph supposedly (so worse MPG and way more noise/drone at highway speed). Some people don't mind it but it's just another thing to consider.
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Since you're looking at CVT vs Stick with the Fit, the other important factor that I see a lot of people comparing is highway RPMs. The CVT lets this car run barely over 2K at 70mph, but Honda skimped the Fit's 6 speed manual and didn't give us a true overdrive gear. So it runs around 3K or more at 70mph supposedly (so worse MPG and way more noise/drone at highway speed). Some people don't mind it but it's just another thing to consider.
Even though I am getting older I do have a bit of a WRC/F1 boy racer in me and the paddles are at least worth a drive 👍👍
Thank you for your input 😊
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In my opinion, if you are at all buying the CVT sport, thinking it can or will duplicate the feel of a real manual transmission I'm afraid you will be disappointed. Especially if you've mostly driven manuals your whole life.
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Since you're looking at CVT vs Stick with the Fit, the other important factor that I see a lot of people comparing is highway RPMs. The CVT lets this car run barely over 2K at 70mph, but Honda skimped the Fit's 6 speed manual and didn't give us a true overdrive gear. So it runs around 3K or more at 70mph supposedly (so worse MPG and way more noise/drone at highway speed). Some people don't mind it but it's just another thing to consider.
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Debbie Downer Here....
To me, all the paddle shifters did in any "manual mode" was make your automatic transmission "stupid". IMO it's not much at all like really clutch shifting a real manual, it's more like just telling your automatic transmission when to do it's job. I never could really get into it.
But maybe you'll like it?
I was told in a different thread on the subject that younger drivers like the paddle shifters because they remind them of video driving games?
Well...OK.
I guess all you can do is try it, maybe you'll find value in the experience?
Maybe I should try it more?
I now have a 2016 EX with the paddle shifters that I have really never used.
I was just so disappointed in what it was with my 2010 that I'm not too motivated to use it.
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More with my 2010...but having loved manual transmissions I bought the paddle shiftier 2010 sport really hoping it might bring some of that back to driving an automatic. I was disappointed.
To me, all the paddle shifters did in any "manual mode" was make your automatic transmission "stupid". IMO it's not much at all like really clutch shifting a real manual, it's more like just telling your automatic transmission when to do it's job. I never could really get into it.
But maybe you'll like it?
I was told in a different thread on the subject that younger drivers like the paddle shifters because they remind them of video driving games?
Well...OK.
I guess all you can do is try it, maybe you'll find value in the experience?
Maybe I should try it more?
I now have a 2016 EX with the paddle shifters that I have really never used.
I was just so disappointed in what it was with my 2010 that I'm not too motivated to use it.
To me, all the paddle shifters did in any "manual mode" was make your automatic transmission "stupid". IMO it's not much at all like really clutch shifting a real manual, it's more like just telling your automatic transmission when to do it's job. I never could really get into it.
But maybe you'll like it?
I was told in a different thread on the subject that younger drivers like the paddle shifters because they remind them of video driving games?
Well...OK.
I guess all you can do is try it, maybe you'll find value in the experience?
Maybe I should try it more?
I now have a 2016 EX with the paddle shifters that I have really never used.
I was just so disappointed in what it was with my 2010 that I'm not too motivated to use it.
I know the Maxxis HPD rally team used the CVT transmission and they seem to do well with it. I am sure they probably had some factory tweaks that aren't available to all of is. And maybe it was a bit of marketing too (I mean, it worked on me to at least look).
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Good Luck.
Like I said, maybe I should try my paddle shifters more.
I was just so disappointed initially, that I gave up using them.
My 2016 Fit is the first real CVT transmission I've had.
My opinion and impressions?
No scientific back-up...but it seems to accelerate from a stop very well compared to a "regular" automatic transmission. There are no shift points so it just linearly gets up to speed. So far if comparing Automatic to Automatic...CVT vs. Automatic...I'm happy with the CVT performance.
I'm a little worried about long term transmission durability. But hopefully I've got some miles and years before it becomes an issue.
Like I said, maybe I should try my paddle shifters more.
I was just so disappointed initially, that I gave up using them.
My 2016 Fit is the first real CVT transmission I've had.
My opinion and impressions?
No scientific back-up...but it seems to accelerate from a stop very well compared to a "regular" automatic transmission. There are no shift points so it just linearly gets up to speed. So far if comparing Automatic to Automatic...CVT vs. Automatic...I'm happy with the CVT performance.
I'm a little worried about long term transmission durability. But hopefully I've got some miles and years before it becomes an issue.
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Oh yes, no shortage of those! Just need to work up the courage to deal with the aggravation and stress of walking into a dealership 😂😂😜
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Yes, just need to work up the courage to deal with the stress and aggravation of going to the dealership!
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I regularly "redline" my CVT. I say that in quotations because even in Sport mode, the CVT will automatically shift before it actually hits red. I don't believe I've noticed any automatic downshifting while in Sport, it just hangs there making a lot of disconcerting noise. I suppose I just haven't let it hang long enough to cause the computer to downshift on its own.
I use the paddle shifters for quick acceleration and engine braking and then I let the computer do the rest. Ideally I want to take advantage of the infinitely variable gear ratios that CVT has to offer. That's the whole point of CVT isn't it, maximum efficiency. So I try to play it to its strengths. What others here have said is true, it's not a replacement for manual transmission. The paddles are there for manual `adjustments' to the algorithm, not full-time use. If you approach CVT manual mode in this way, you might avoid some frustration.
I use the paddle shifters for quick acceleration and engine braking and then I let the computer do the rest. Ideally I want to take advantage of the infinitely variable gear ratios that CVT has to offer. That's the whole point of CVT isn't it, maximum efficiency. So I try to play it to its strengths. What others here have said is true, it's not a replacement for manual transmission. The paddles are there for manual `adjustments' to the algorithm, not full-time use. If you approach CVT manual mode in this way, you might avoid some frustration.
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Well, finally found the time after many emails to get a fair deal to take one for a drive.... Should pick up my new Fit Sport CVT in Lunar Silver in a day or two!!
Honestly didn't find the CVT to be bad at all and the paddles gave me the "boy racer" feeling I was hoping for. I know it's not a substitute for a manual but, all things considered I am fine with it.
Thanks for all the input and insight. Now I need to start looking for a rear spoiler and some other stuff to make her mine!!
Honestly didn't find the CVT to be bad at all and the paddles gave me the "boy racer" feeling I was hoping for. I know it's not a substitute for a manual but, all things considered I am fine with it.
Thanks for all the input and insight. Now I need to start looking for a rear spoiler and some other stuff to make her mine!!