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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Track and lowering springs

I want to take my fit out to the track but I'm running on lowering springs. I have some good sticky tires, Kumho XS 205/50/15, for the fit but I'm mostly worried about the springs. Will handling be as bad as most people say? Should I run the fit or just wait until for coilovers?

All I really have is
Sticky tires
Lowering springs
Rear Sway bar
 

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by petwhookie
I want to take my fit out to the track but I'm running on lowering springs. I have some good sticky tires, Kumho XS 205/50/15, for the fit but I'm mostly worried about the springs. Will handling be as bad as most people say? Should I run the fit or just wait until for coilovers?

All I really have is
Sticky tires
Lowering springs
Rear Sway bar
I would recommend u to get some sport damper set to go with the lowering springs. They're cheaper to start with, support the lowering springs better & easier to drive. Spend the rest of the $ and get some better brake pads & take driving school to build up your skills from there.

I don't recommend novices to dump loads of $ into coilovers coz ends up they use up all their budget & find their cars too harsh to drive. I will say take out the rear sway bar too coz if u go into a corner too hot, freak out & lift the throttle then u have to pray that there's no wall or no other driver around u.......
 
Old Nov 12, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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For the rear sway bar it depend of your driving.
Before i was driving a 90 with 6k in front and 8 in rear with a 22mm rear sway bar and no front sway bar.. It was so nice to me! But other person dont like it.
 
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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I think I'll hold back on my FIt for now. I got a DC all ready for track.
 
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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I think I'll hold back on my FIt for now. I got a DC all ready for track.
Oh yeah that'll be a much better car to run with. More torque at least.
 
Old Nov 26, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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I would recommend u to get some sport damper set to go with the lowering springs. They're cheaper to start with, support the lowering springs better & easier to drive. Spend the rest of the $ and get some better brake pads & take driving school to build up your skills from there.

I don't recommend novices to dump loads of $ into coilovers coz ends up they use up all their budget & find their cars too harsh to drive. I will say take out the rear sway bar too coz if u go into a corner too hot, freak out & lift the throttle then u have to pray that there's no wall or no other driver around u.......
thats where the drivers ed comes in
best way is actual track time
why is a novice going to do any passing in corners or try doing the corner with a retaining wall at 10 tenths (or 11 tenths lol)?

keep the rear bar......it truly does lower lap times (if u can handle it)

go to the track and learn
slow down near walls and dont pass people and let faster drivers pass u
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by petwhookie
I want to take my fit out to the track but I'm running on lowering springs. I have some good sticky tires, Kumho XS 205/50/15, for the fit but I'm mostly worried about the springs. Will handling be as bad as most people say? Should I run the fit or just wait until for coilovers?

All I really have is
Sticky tires
Lowering springs
Rear Sway bar
Nah, just run it. The Fit has good, predictable balance even in stock form - that's my instructor talking.

I suggest you maximize your time with what you got first before buying more kit. Coilovers can make the car too sensitive - are you sure you can handle that?
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Never took the Fit to a real track so I wouldn't know. The lowering springs + oem struts feel like shit though, that's why I was asking FF if I should bother with the track with my current set up
 
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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Never took the Fit to a real track so I wouldn't know. The lowering springs + oem struts feel like shit though, that's why I was asking FF if I should bother with the track with my current set up
Take it to the track to find out then

On-road behavior tells you so little about on-track behavior IMHO
 
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Sounds good, ill keep you guys updated.
 
Old Dec 14, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Type 100
Take it to the track to find out then

On-road behavior tells you so little about on-track behavior IMHO
This is so true!
I have eibach pro kit springs on eom dampers and no rear sway bar and I can have a lot of fun on the track. I can even get the tail to step out a bit to help rotation with some trail braking. I think your setup can be a lot of fun too except if you're on a very bumpy track where you'll most likely bottom out the suspensions(that was my case). Sport dampers would be a good thing to help this but there's not a lot of choices on the market.

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Just in case you were wondering: I never went off track with the fit but you need some good reflexes. But it won't do that if you don't provoke it quite hard.
 

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by petwhookie
I want to take my fit out to the track but I'm running on lowering springs. I have some good sticky tires, Kumho XS 205/50/15, for the fit but I'm mostly worried about the springs. Will handling be as bad as most people say? Should I run the fit or just wait until for coilovers?

All I really have is
Sticky tires
Lowering springs
Rear Sway bar
Run it and get to know the vehicle. Just be a courteous driver.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Go to the track with what you have right now. Do some data logging and go on from there. I would've went bone stock first. But I would definitely recommend that you get some better brake pads and fluid.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Go to the track with what you have right now. Do some data logging and go on from there. I would've went bone stock first. But I would definitely recommend that you get some better brake pads and fluid.
In my experience, the stock Honda/Nissin pads held up fine under a whole day of track use...and that's with a few thousand kilometers already put into them in daily driving.

Agreed on the brake fluid though - I'd recommend DOT4 fluid as a precaution against boiling and its associated risks. While we're on the subject of boiling prevention, a coolant flush and fill before the trackday might be good prep too.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Type 100
In my experience, the stock Honda/Nissin pads held up fine under a whole day of track use...and that's with a few thousand kilometers already put into them in daily driving.

Agreed on the brake fluid though - I'd recommend DOT4 fluid as a precaution against boiling and its associated risks. While we're on the subject of boiling prevention, a coolant flush and fill before the trackday might be good prep too.
For a first timer, yeah stock pad MIGHT be enough, really depends on skill level & track temperature.

If that's a track like our Mission raceway/Pacific Raceway here with hairpins/ downhill turns after high speed section, stock pad will probably be toasted after 2laps on a 25c day.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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In my experience, the stock Honda/Nissin pads held up fine under a whole day of track use...and that's with a few thousand kilometers already put into them in daily driving.

Agreed on the brake fluid though - I'd recommend DOT4 fluid as a precaution against boiling and its associated risks. While we're on the subject of boiling prevention, a coolant flush and fill before the trackday might be good prep too.
Originally Posted by spoonek4
For a first timer, yeah stock pad MIGHT be enough, really depends on skill level & track temperature.

If that's a track like our Mission raceway/Pacific Raceway here with hairpins/ downhill turns after high speed section, stock pad will probably be toasted after 2laps on a 25c day.
The stock pads burning up really depends on how hard you brake and the track conditions. Even for a first timer, it is possible to toast the stock pads. I know, I burnt up my OEM pads on my very first track day. For brake fluid, I would recommend Endless or Motul.
 
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