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Polish 09-12-2007 05:06 PM

Oh I know that, I've had cars dyno'ed before and I've been modding for years. I know how it works. However I still say 2.5Hp per pound is BS no matter how you slice it. But 2-3whp for the set is probably about what one could expect. Lower side if you are auto, higher side if you are manual.

Jimmy101 09-12-2007 06:05 PM

If anyone isn't going to install the alternator pulley,
I'll buy it from you.
UR doesn't sell it by itself.

Kit msrp: $231.66

07fitsport 09-13-2007 03:01 PM

this is from emails from Mike at...
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']unorthodoxracing.com[/FONT]
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[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']The MSRP is 257.40 for the kit. Includes alternator and stock size
> diameter crank pulley.
>
[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Pulleys are stock size. Parts are in stock ready to ship. Car saw gains of 4 whp & 4 lbs.-ft.

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[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']With this vehicle we decided not to do underdrive pulleys. Most of the gains are because of the weight reduction not underdriving. Weight reduction account for 85 % of the gains.

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Polish 09-13-2007 03:16 PM

I called and ordered my set today. Should be here next week, I will put them on asap.

Jimmy101 09-13-2007 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by 07fitsport (Post 174142)
this is from emails from Mike at...
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']unorthodoxracing.com[/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']The MSRP is 257.40 for the kit. Includes alternator and stock size
> diameter crank pulley.
>
[/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Pulleys are stock size. Parts are in stock ready to ship. Car saw gains of 4 whp & 4 lbs.-ft.

[/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']With this vehicle we decided not to do underdrive pulleys. Most of the gains are because of the weight reduction not underdriving. Weight reduction account for 85 % of the gains.

[/font]

This is the price I got:

$231.66 and includes free shipping in the C.U.S.

:-)
Shawn Baumgartner
631.586.9525 x.16
unorthodoxracing.com

Raaaaaaaaaay. 09-13-2007 09:04 PM

That sucks the alt needs to be pulled. I dont even think Ive looked for mine....

leonine 09-13-2007 11:07 PM

it also sucks that they don't sell them individually. I'm not going to pay that price for 2 pulleys when i only need one.

JDMchris.com 09-14-2007 02:48 AM

i was talking with oscar sr today about this actually and he said pulleys on 4cyl cars arent good. He said they throw the crank shaft off and actually mess up the main bearing. He said he had made some before and discovered turbulance in the crankshaft and since then has never made any others. just a little FYI.

leonine 09-14-2007 07:32 AM

Really! Wow something to consider maybe i will wind up taking mine off.

JDMchris.com 09-14-2007 11:58 AM

well they dont shorten engine life, he said they actually mess up the main bearing because of the stress it puts on the crankshaft. He said these are good for 6+cyl cars because the way the cylinders are they keep the crankshaft in place, but on a 4cyl the crankshaft wants to "hammer" back and forth, which is what causes the problem. Now the harmonic balancer may help, but these dont have that right?

leonine 09-14-2007 12:04 PM

I thought the fit was internally balanced. The crank pulley was only there to drive the accessories.

Polish 09-14-2007 01:39 PM

You are correct. The Unorthodox racing website explains it all. Just go to the FAQ.

tricolor 09-14-2007 10:04 PM

[quote=Jimmy101;173822]If anyone isn't going to install the alternator pulley,
I'll buy it from you.
UR doesn't sell it by itself.

Same here! Because I too already has a lightened drive pulley installed.
PM me with a suggested price.

Polish 09-14-2007 11:04 PM

Where did you guys get your crank pulleys at and who made it? I didn't know any others were availible and by themselves at that, what was the cost? What kind of difference did it make and how does the car drive now? Any MPG increase? Any negative side effects? How hard was it to install?

Sorry for all the questions I didn't know anyone even had them yet but these are things I've been wondering. Lastly is it just a solid peice like the UR pulley or does it have the rubber dampener built in?

Jimmy101 09-14-2007 11:27 PM

This thread should answer most of your questions.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ghlight=summit

Sugarphreak 09-18-2007 09:03 PM

UR does not have a dampener in it,

I have done a lot of digging on the subject and I have been finding a lot of technical articals out there that "highly reccomend against non-dampened pulleys" with examples of signifigant bearing wear around 40,000K when compared to identical cars with a dampened pulley. Granted, no tests on the Fit.

From what I understand Honda puts a stock dampened pulley into the Fit, so regardless of how well the internal balancer works it must be there for a reason. Personally I plan to keep my car for at least 200,000K as my good miliage city commuter car, so my final decision was to go with a pulley that comes with a dampener. It is hard to walk away from a nice pulley setup like that though.

Anyway, something to think about at least. Until somebody does a controlled test on the Fit I doubt anybody can say one way or another with any solid confidence if these concerns are applicable.

koolkevin1107 09-18-2007 10:08 PM

i'm still waiting on mine. they will be here this week and i will do a writeup on it. =]

leonine 09-19-2007 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Sugarphreak (Post 175790)
UR does not have a dampener in it,

I have done a lot of digging on the subject and I have been finding a lot of technical articals out there that "highly reccomend against non-dampened pulleys" with examples of signifigant bearing wear around 40,000K when compared to identical cars with a dampened pulley. Granted, no tests on the Fit.

From what I understand Honda puts a stock dampened pulley into the Fit, so regardless of how well the internal balancer works it must be there for a reason. Personally I plan to keep my car for at least 200,000K as my good miliage city commuter car, so my final decision was to go with a pulley that comes with a dampener. It is hard to walk away from a nice pulley setup like that though.

Anyway, something to think about at least. Until somebody does a controlled test on the Fit I doubt anybody can say one way or another with any solid confidence if these concerns are applicable.

That is exactly why i went with the myth pulley. I wish UR would sell the damn alternator pulley separate:(.

What pulley are you going with?

Sugarphreak 09-19-2007 09:39 AM

I have been holding out for the T1R.... So much will power... must resist buying UR!! :D

leonine 09-19-2007 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Sugarphreak (Post 175928)
I have been holding out for the T1R.... So much will power... must resist buying UR!! :D

Yea but is T1R dampened?


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