Oh I know that, I've had cars dyno'ed before and I've been modding for years. I know how it works. However I still say 2.5Hp per pound is BS no matter how you slice it. But 2-3whp for the set is probably about what one could expect. Lower side if you are auto, higher side if you are manual.
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If anyone isn't going to install the alternator pulley,
I'll buy it from you. UR doesn't sell it by itself. Kit msrp: $231.66 |
this is from emails from Mike at...
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']unorthodoxracing.com[/FONT] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/FONT] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']The MSRP is 257.40 for the kit. Includes alternator and stock size > diameter crank pulley. > [/FONT] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Pulleys are stock size. Parts are in stock ready to ship. Car saw gains of 4 whp & 4 lbs.-ft. [/FONT] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/FONT] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']With this vehicle we decided not to do underdrive pulleys. Most of the gains are because of the weight reduction not underdriving. Weight reduction account for 85 % of the gains. [/FONT] |
I called and ordered my set today. Should be here next week, I will put them on asap.
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Originally Posted by 07fitsport
(Post 174142)
this is from emails from Mike at...
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']unorthodoxracing.com[/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']The MSRP is 257.40 for the kit. Includes alternator and stock size > diameter crank pulley. > [/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Pulleys are stock size. Parts are in stock ready to ship. Car saw gains of 4 whp & 4 lbs.-ft. [/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']With this vehicle we decided not to do underdrive pulleys. Most of the gains are because of the weight reduction not underdriving. Weight reduction account for 85 % of the gains. [/font] $231.66 and includes free shipping in the C.U.S. :-) Shawn Baumgartner 631.586.9525 x.16 unorthodoxracing.com |
That sucks the alt needs to be pulled. I dont even think Ive looked for mine....
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it also sucks that they don't sell them individually. I'm not going to pay that price for 2 pulleys when i only need one.
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i was talking with oscar sr today about this actually and he said pulleys on 4cyl cars arent good. He said they throw the crank shaft off and actually mess up the main bearing. He said he had made some before and discovered turbulance in the crankshaft and since then has never made any others. just a little FYI.
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Really! Wow something to consider maybe i will wind up taking mine off.
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well they dont shorten engine life, he said they actually mess up the main bearing because of the stress it puts on the crankshaft. He said these are good for 6+cyl cars because the way the cylinders are they keep the crankshaft in place, but on a 4cyl the crankshaft wants to "hammer" back and forth, which is what causes the problem. Now the harmonic balancer may help, but these dont have that right?
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I thought the fit was internally balanced. The crank pulley was only there to drive the accessories.
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You are correct. The Unorthodox racing website explains it all. Just go to the FAQ.
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[quote=Jimmy101;173822]If anyone isn't going to install the alternator pulley,
I'll buy it from you. UR doesn't sell it by itself. Same here! Because I too already has a lightened drive pulley installed. PM me with a suggested price. |
Where did you guys get your crank pulleys at and who made it? I didn't know any others were availible and by themselves at that, what was the cost? What kind of difference did it make and how does the car drive now? Any MPG increase? Any negative side effects? How hard was it to install?
Sorry for all the questions I didn't know anyone even had them yet but these are things I've been wondering. Lastly is it just a solid peice like the UR pulley or does it have the rubber dampener built in? |
This thread should answer most of your questions.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ghlight=summit |
UR does not have a dampener in it,
I have done a lot of digging on the subject and I have been finding a lot of technical articals out there that "highly reccomend against non-dampened pulleys" with examples of signifigant bearing wear around 40,000K when compared to identical cars with a dampened pulley. Granted, no tests on the Fit. From what I understand Honda puts a stock dampened pulley into the Fit, so regardless of how well the internal balancer works it must be there for a reason. Personally I plan to keep my car for at least 200,000K as my good miliage city commuter car, so my final decision was to go with a pulley that comes with a dampener. It is hard to walk away from a nice pulley setup like that though. Anyway, something to think about at least. Until somebody does a controlled test on the Fit I doubt anybody can say one way or another with any solid confidence if these concerns are applicable. |
i'm still waiting on mine. they will be here this week and i will do a writeup on it. =]
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
(Post 175790)
UR does not have a dampener in it,
I have done a lot of digging on the subject and I have been finding a lot of technical articals out there that "highly reccomend against non-dampened pulleys" with examples of signifigant bearing wear around 40,000K when compared to identical cars with a dampened pulley. Granted, no tests on the Fit. From what I understand Honda puts a stock dampened pulley into the Fit, so regardless of how well the internal balancer works it must be there for a reason. Personally I plan to keep my car for at least 200,000K as my good miliage city commuter car, so my final decision was to go with a pulley that comes with a dampener. It is hard to walk away from a nice pulley setup like that though. Anyway, something to think about at least. Until somebody does a controlled test on the Fit I doubt anybody can say one way or another with any solid confidence if these concerns are applicable. What pulley are you going with? |
I have been holding out for the T1R.... So much will power... must resist buying UR!! :D
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
(Post 175928)
I have been holding out for the T1R.... So much will power... must resist buying UR!! :D
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