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Joined: May 2006
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From: Chula Vista, CA
Originally Posted by xbowner
Street machine? With a C32B or older C30? I don't think so. A rear end collision, something you the driver couldn't controll, and a 95% chance of not avoiding, would absolutely destroy atleast parts of the motor, tranny, and all the custom fabrication put into it. Thats just as practical as a crotch rocket motor. lol. I get what your saying, and that would be definitely one of the fastest fit's around but nothing practical or streetable about it.
A practical swap, with a nice redline, and tons of aftermarket availability would be a B series. Especially the jdm swap(s) i mentioned above. It would be the best swap in terms of practical use, and less custom work involved than a K series or v-6 stuffed in the rear. Not to mention, the Fit isn't made for a rear motor, so although power to weight would be insanely nice, handling would suffer more than anyone could imagine. Only someone that wants a full blown drag car should look into that. I would suggest using a older C30 (since its smaller than the 32) and putting it in the front and just going fwd with it, you still have the large displacement issue and just as much custom work involved than a rear motor set up. 5mph roll fender bender could be priceless to fix, unless you are rich.
A practical swap, with a nice redline, and tons of aftermarket availability would be a B series. Especially the jdm swap(s) i mentioned above. It would be the best swap in terms of practical use, and less custom work involved than a K series or v-6 stuffed in the rear. Not to mention, the Fit isn't made for a rear motor, so although power to weight would be insanely nice, handling would suffer more than anyone could imagine. Only someone that wants a full blown drag car should look into that. I would suggest using a older C30 (since its smaller than the 32) and putting it in the front and just going fwd with it, you still have the large displacement issue and just as much custom work involved than a rear motor set up. 5mph roll fender bender could be priceless to fix, unless you are rich.
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Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by Fillmatic
I would just use a J35 motor (out of odyssey, RL) if you wanted to go V6. My odyssey put 350 down to the wheels with the equal torque to back it up. Now... that might rip the fit in half, but it would be nice as hell.
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by Fillmatic
haha, a Fit with a J35 and some sticky tires is going to be fast as hell though, you know, I know it, the american people know it.
More practical, and still able to do damage would be a b16 or b18. Possibly a k series if mugen finally gets that swap kit out there.
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by Ah Ed
well there was the spoon civic that had 12,000 rpm redline...
I've seen a few videos of a k20a, b16b, and and a few others with 9,000+ redlines.
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From: The Latin Pot
well i have always liked the B series motors...so if there is gonna be a kit out fot the B series motor i would look into it...it would have to be the b18c5...TYPE-R power baby!!!
Originally Posted by ksaito2k3
k20 in a fit is a nice idea,but unrealistic $$$...You will also need a LSD,Brake/Suspension upgrade too...Although it would be an AWESOME HOOT RIDE...!!!!!!
i'll just say be prepared to spend about 7-9k for the k20 into the fit, and it will require no frame/firewall cutting
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by aallbbeerrtttttt
says who? you dont need LSD, brakes, or suspension just to put the k20 in the fit...and trust me, there's a k20 fit in a shop very close to my house, and very close to be up and running..but that's all i'll say
i'll just say be prepared to spend about 7-9k for the k20 into the fit, and it will require no frame/firewall cutting
i'll just say be prepared to spend about 7-9k for the k20 into the fit, and it will require no frame/firewall cutting
Also, even if no modifications are needed to fit a k series in the fit, it more or less becomes a trailor queen. The slightest fender bender could result in some serious $$ to fix the motor, mounts, or so on. It would be close.
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by Tourgasm
weird, I thought of this yesterday. I know there's a kit car out there with 2 harley engines.
Originally Posted by xbowner
No frame modifications? Interesting, would have to see that to believe you. Not to say that your lying, but thats impressive if its true. Which k20?
Also, even if no modifications are needed to fit a k series in the fit, it more or less becomes a trailor queen. The slightest fender bender could result in some serious $$ to fix the motor, mounts, or so on. It would be close.
Also, even if no modifications are needed to fit a k series in the fit, it more or less becomes a trailor queen. The slightest fender bender could result in some serious $$ to fix the motor, mounts, or so on. It would be close.
the engine is a k20a, from a dc5-r, mounts are specially made, and the only difference is the throttle cable/drive by wire issue that is with the fit
and why would it be a trailor queen? people would race it, some people would daily drive it, and any accident in it wouldn't be different than having the l15 in there...it's not any more sensitive to damages or vibrations or anything
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From: Central PA
Originally Posted by aallbbeerrtttttt
the engine is a k20a, from a dc5-r, mounts are specially made, and the only difference is the throttle cable/drive by wire issue that is with the fit
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From: Central PA
Originally Posted by atlas
could you seriously swap a B-Series motor into a Fit? I know anything is possible with money, but you'd be going from OBD2 to OBD1, Drive By Wire to Throttle Cable, let alone all the mount issues.
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by aallbbeerrtttttt
i have no reason to lie about it, it's not for my bragging rights or anything, but i can't say anything more about it...all i will say is that it's ****ing sexy and i couldn't believe it when i saw it, a close friend of mine personally fitted the engine in the bay, and it fits perfectly with space for modifications..
the engine is a k20a, from a dc5-r, mounts are specially made, and the only difference is the throttle cable/drive by wire issue that is with the fit
and why would it be a trailor queen? people would race it, some people would daily drive it, and any accident in it wouldn't be different than having the l15 in there...it's not any more sensitive to damages or vibrations or anything
the engine is a k20a, from a dc5-r, mounts are specially made, and the only difference is the throttle cable/drive by wire issue that is with the fit
and why would it be a trailor queen? people would race it, some people would daily drive it, and any accident in it wouldn't be different than having the l15 in there...it's not any more sensitive to damages or vibrations or anything
And it would be a trailor queen because it takes more space in the bay, the bay is small, there might be space left for mods but i would find it hard to believe that a k20a could have enough from from the front bumper to survive 25mph impact. I could be wrong, i haven't seen this car. But the bay is signficantly smaller than most cars that swap to the k20a, enough to make or break the idea.A nice B16b or B16c would be my choice, in terms of daily driving ability.
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From: Garland, TX
The B16A is commonly the 94-99 USDM Civic Si and Del Sol/ JDM SIR 160-170hp motor, and the B16B is the JDM Civic Type R 185hp motor. The B16C, I have never heard of, but maybe they are referring to the B18C which is the Integra Type R motor with 200hp.
Last edited by 07TaffetaFit; May 20, 2006 at 11:56 AM.
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From: Wilkesboro, Nc
Originally Posted by 07TaffetaFit
The B16A is commonly the 94-99 USDM Civic Si and Del Sol/ JDM SIR 160-170hp motor, and the B16B is the JDM Civic Type R 185hp motor. The B16C, I have never heard of, but maybe they are referring to the B18C which is the Integra Type R motor with 200hp.
Further information for a newbie that focuses on all engine codes and cars.. i'll try my best to remain as accurate as possible.
A20A3 accord 88-89
B16 jdm and usdm integra si (early 90's)
B16A jdm civic sir, edm civic sir, civic vti, del sol and crx sir, jdm civic sir hatch.
B16A1 edm/usdm crx sir, jdm civic sir.
B16A2 late 90's early 00' usdm integra type r, jdm civic sir gen 2 and jdm del sol.
B16A3 usdm del sol si.
B16B 1st gen integra and civic type r.
B16C Jdm C spec motor of the usdm k20a/k20a1, used in 1st gen SiR's and i believe the integra type r had one till they switched.
B17A1 usdm integra gs and gsr.
B18B1 usdm integra gs, gsr, ls.
B18C 2nd generation jdm civic sir
B18C1 last gen. integra gsr.
B18C3 edm i think, integra type r. Wasn't there another car with this motor?
B18C5 usdm and jdm integra type r. Should give away the years here, 98-01.
B20A3 1st gen, start of 2nd gen prelude.
B20A5 prelude Si.
B20A5 1st gen. prelude.
B20A5 1st gen prelude Si.
B20B 1st gen Crv
B20Z 2nd gen Crv
B21A1 jdm/edm/usdm prelude Si.
C30A 1st Gen nsx, 5spd.
C32B Latest nsx, 6spd.
D15A Civic dx.
D15A1 Crx Dx.
D15A2 crx lx
D15B6 civic and crx hf models.
D15Y7 late 90's civic lx, ex and dx. I believe there was also an rx model? But i think that was early 90's and probably shared the D15a2.
D16A3 1st gen integra base models
D16A6 1st Gen civic Si, crx Si?
D16Y8 Honda Civic EX 1996-2000
F20A 2nd gen jdm accord.
F20C S2k.
F22 Mid 90's prelude Si.
F22A1 early 90's accord and early 90's prelude, i believe it was in the Sh model. Probably 1st gen with Sh.
H22 jdm/edm accord sir
H22 Prelude Si
H22A jdm prelude Sir
H22A7 Accord euro R concept and production model.
H23 jdm accord-s.
H23A1 early/mid 90's prelude Si/ES/SH
K20A jdm integra type r, newest civic type r (not the concept)
K20A2 1st gen rsx-s.
K20A3 base rsx.
K20A3 civic Si (ep3)
K24 newest Crv, and isn't this in the tsx?
I'm tired, but thats all i could remember, i did it in word so i could just go back and put it in order as best i could. I've missed a bunch i'm sure.