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Myxalplyx 11-18-2014 12:36 PM

Lightweight Crank Pulley - Problems Or Not
 
You guys have heard and seen questions and posts about this in every forum, over and over again. I even posted about it somewhat in the 3rd Generation Fit forum without replies. So here are my two questions.

****These questions ONLY applies to those that have purchased a lightweight pulley****

  1. Do you have an stock diameter or underdrive pulley
  2. Have you had ANY problems with your pulley or none at all?
  3. If you have had a problem(s) with your pulley, what were they?

I am trying to decide if I want to go underdriven or not. My plan is to order a stock pulley, send it out for a custom one to be made. LIGHTNESS is my PRIORITY. If I can get away with underdriven, I will. I do not plan on any aftermarket electrical items (Sound Systems, Lightings, etc). This will remain stock.

Thanks for any feedback. AGAIN, I'm not asking if I should or should not install one. I only am interested in those with experiences with one. No theories or hypothetical situations. Thanks! :)

Wanderer. 11-18-2014 04:19 PM

There were problems on the GE running a lightened crank pulley because it screwed with the engine harmonics and the knock sensor. It would throw check engine lights and show up as misfires. Not sure if that ever got resolved or how it would transfer over to the GK, if at all, but take that for what it's worth.

I don't expect to see a lot of GK responses here unfortunately.

Myxalplyx 11-18-2014 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Wanderer. (Post 1278400)
There were problems on the GE running a lightened crank pulley because it screwed with the engine harmonics and the knock sensor. It would throw check engine lights and show up as misfires. Not sure if that ever got resolved or how it would transfer over to the GK, if at all, but take that for what it's worth.

I don't expect to see a lot of GK responses here unfortunately.

Thanks for your response. This is the type of information I'm looking for. Not looking for any information about the GK because there doesn't seem to be any crank pullies made for it.....yet. Just trying to get a general idea of what I may be up against when getting a custom one made.

Rollerboots666 11-19-2014 12:39 AM

This has always been a debate with lightweight pulley. I think the biggest issue is a billet pulley vs. a lightweight pulley that uses dampening like OE.

cnordt24 11-19-2014 07:44 AM

I put in the Razco lightweight pulleys on my GD and I've had no issue at all. No extra noise or vibration what so ever, and I can feel the added pull in the higher RPMs with the freed up HP thanks to the lighter weight.

Myxalplyx 11-19-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Wanderer. (Post 1278400)
There were problems on the GE running a lightened crank pulley because it screwed with the engine harmonics and the knock sensor. It would throw check engine lights and show up as misfires. Not sure if that ever got resolved or how it would transfer over to the GK, if at all, but take that for what it's worth.

Any links to this info? I just checked and I did find this thread --> HERE

Page 2...here's what the guy said -->

Originally Posted by Rikeys (Post 98522)
you are using another brand rite? they tested this one (check out somewhere in this forum) and loss some power cause too light!
also if non dampen you get sonic vibrations similar to knocking and the sensor picks that up and retards your timings. one popular brand in US had this issue with a model of Honda. I've been reading their feedbacks.

He only states 'they tested this somewhere in this forum' and 'one popular brand'. Who tested this? What did they test? What brand? I couldn't find anything to support any of this in these forums. I'll keep looking though. Thanks!

Wanderer. 11-21-2014 04:15 PM

My mistake man, i'm thinking of the flywheel, not the crank pulley. You should be fine running a pulley.

I was actually considering buying one so I don't know why I would have said that. Everyone has off days :p

Here is a good thread on one.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ht-pulley.html

kylerwho 11-21-2014 10:19 PM

I have had a t1r pulley on my gd3 for 150k miles now.

1.Stock diameter pulley
2.Biggest issue I have was pulling the crank nut off, but no issues with the engine.
3.The pulley itself has not caused any issues.

I had a long discussion with a few engine builders up here and compared the two pulleys (t1r which is 7071 billet aluminum) vs the stock steel pulley. There is a rubber ring on the stock pulley but it does not go all the way through the oem pulley so it has absolutely no dampening ability. The conclusion I came to was that the internals are balanced and it doesn't matter what type of external pulley your are running, the crank harmonics will be the same since this isn't an old v8 style dampener.

Rollerboots666 11-22-2014 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by kylerwho (Post 1279069)
I have had a t1r pulley on my gd3 for 150k miles now.

1.Stock diameter pulley
2.Biggest issue I have was pulling the crank nut off, but no issues with the engine.
3.The pulley itself has not caused any issues.

I had a long discussion with a few engine builders up here and compared the two pulleys (t1r which is 7071 billet aluminum) vs the stock steel pulley. There is a rubber ring on the stock pulley but it does not go all the way through the oem pulley so it has absolutely no dampening ability. The conclusion I came to was that the internals are balanced and it doesn't matter what type of external pulley your are running, the crank harmonics will be the same since this isn't an old v8 style dampener.

Interesting. I'm curious to know how the Razco compares to the T1R. Trying to find the T1R is tough these days.

Myxalplyx 11-22-2014 10:08 AM

Update
 
Thanks for those of you that have replied so far. It is appreciated!

I just wanted to update so people know that I'm not just 'blowing smoke'. How many times you hear/read about people talking about doing something but it never comes to be? I've already ordered the a stock pulley and am expecting it to arrive on late Monday. Tuesday, I will be sending it out to be measured so a custom one will be made. The anticipated timeline to completion is 30-40 days. This is great for me since this is winter downtime (Tracks are closed). I want any new modifications to be completed by late February.

Hopes are that at least I have a J's Racing 'Cat Delete' in and installed, and NST aftermarket pulley (This is who will be modifying the pulley I send out) and a far fetched possibility of a J's Racing ECU Reflash (I can dream so leave me alone. :D). The other two are for another thread. Just putting it out there.

Any crazy ideas or N/A modifications that you guys have in mind, please send me a PM. I'm game and am interested. I just have a lot of energy around these things. Never could stand waiting for shi*. Again, thanks! :thumbups:

NonStopTuning 12-12-2014 03:48 PM

NST Pulleys are offered for popular Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Scion etc and there are thousands of happy customers on various forums running these pulleys.

NST Pulleys have been on the market since 2005, and there are a number out there on the same cars to this day!

:D

De36 12-15-2014 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by NonStopTuning (Post 1282130)
NST Pulleys are offered for popular Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Scion etc and there are thousands of happy customers on various forums running these pulleys.

NST Pulleys have been on the market since 2005, and there are a number out there on the same cars to this day!

:D

NonStopTuning Lightweight Pulley Kits - Honda - NonStopTuning

The same pulley fits both the GE and GD? What about the GK?

NonStopTuning 12-15-2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by De36 (Post 1282432)
NonStopTuning Lightweight Pulley Kits - Honda - NonStopTuning

The same pulley fits both the GE and GD? What about the GK?

The 2015 (GK) Fit uses a different pulley.

:vtec:

Jorge Reverón Román 06-12-2019 11:02 PM

Where i can find this Razco lightweight pulleys?, iam from Puerto Rico
 

Originally Posted by cnordt24 (Post 1278500)
I put in the Razco lightweight pulleys on my GD and I've had no issue at all. No extra noise or vibration what so ever, and I can feel the added pull in the higher RPMs with the freed up HP thanks to the lighter weight.

Where i can find this Razco lightweight pulleys?, iam from Puerto Rico


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