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Are the OEM tail lights brighter than the "styled" replica ones?

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Exclamation Are the OEM tail lights brighter than the "styled" replica ones?

Are the OEM LED tail lights brighter than the "styled" LED replica ones?

Hopefully someone can answer this question who have seen both in action. Because I would like to change them out ONLY if it benefits safety.

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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i tried to ask that but you need to compare them side by side. we have a meet next week in so cal and i hope 1 of them have oem but i think they're all replica too. lol
 
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definately let us all know. LEDs are not that expensive to begin with however there is a difference in quality amongst LEDs, definately be interested in knowing your observations from the meet, hopefully one has real OEM as a baseline.

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i tried to ask that but you need to compare them side by side. we have a meet next week in so cal and i hope 1 of them have oem but i think they're all replica too. lol
 
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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I would be interested in knowing too!!
 
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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definately let us all know. LEDs are not that expensive to begin with however there is a difference in quality amongst LEDs
There certainly is. Unfortunately, comparing the brightness of two fairly new lamps won't help you. It's easy to make any LED brighter -- just put more power through. But when you do that, the LEDs wear quickly and become dim or fail completely. (You've probably seen LED taillights on heavy trailers where half the LEDs are gone.)

It's better to look at what LED elements are used and how they're powered.

At the top end of LED elements are Luxeons; these are large, bright, and expensive. LEDs like this are used in OEM taillights on cars where you see a small number (5 - 10) of bright LEDs. Third-party tails with Luxeons are very likely OK.

Next are Superflux LEDs. These are 0.4" square with four pins. Cars where OEM tails show many (dozens) of LEDs use LEDs like these. Third-party tails with these are probably OK.

Then there's everything else, including the round 5mm LEDs you're probably familiar with. Third-party tails with these are never OK.

The second thing to check is how they're powered: they should have an IC current-regulating circuit. Limiting resistors in a commercial product are a bad sign, but if they're used (e.g. in a DIY) there should be no more than 3 or 4 LEDs per resistor.
 
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Excellent points, not too sure if a layperson will be able to determine this.

If one has a replica or oem LED light rear tail assembly

Can you take some pictures of the pc board? So we may compare.

Thank-you


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There certainly is. Unfortunately, comparing the brightness of two fairly new lamps won't help you. It's easy to make any LED brighter -- just put more power through. But when you do that, the LEDs wear quickly and become dim or fail completely. (You've probably seen LED taillights on heavy trailers where half the LEDs are gone.)

It's better to look at what LED elements are used and how they're powered.

At the top end of LED elements are Luxeons; these are large, bright, and expensive. LEDs like this are used in OEM taillights on cars where you see a small number (5 - 10) of bright LEDs. Third-party tails with Luxeons are very likely OK.

Next are Superflux LEDs. These are 0.4" square with four pins. Cars where OEM tails show many (dozens) of LEDs use LEDs like these. Third-party tails with these are probably OK.

Then there's everything else, including the round 5mm LEDs you're probably familiar with. Third-party tails with these are never OK.

The second thing to check is how they're powered: they should have an IC current-regulating circuit. Limiting resistors in a commercial product are a bad sign, but if they're used (e.g. in a DIY) there should be no more than 3 or 4 LEDs per resistor.
 
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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one of the guys had jdm phillipine jazz taillights which are oem.

to me the brightness is close but the angles it projects the light is wider.

what i mean is when you're directly behind my car, it doesnt seem as bright but at an angle it's good. if you look at the taillights you will see that its not parallel with the rear but angled.

with oem you can get see it from a wider angle.
 
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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i was woundering the same thing. but looks like im going to save a lil extra cash and get the OEM ones
 
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