tweeters
#1
tweeters
Can someone take pics of the tweeter location on their Sport Fit and post it please? I need to see where the stock location is so I can see where to mount them on my Base Fit. Thanks!
#6
Originally Posted by KenClunk
I'm not sure that is needed. They sound very clear and provide a good path two the ears.
The doors mount sounds just as good if not better and is less likey to get full of debris in the long run!
#7
Mounting the tweeters in the kick panels holds a number of advantages over high mounting them.
The problem with mounting tweeters up high (e.g. on the sail area on the door) is this:
Think about the position of your ears in relation to the tweeters. One speaker is belting the high pitch tunes out about two feet from your right ear where as the left tweeter is triple that distance away. The stage has no choice but to be right out the right window. Sheer laws of physics govern this fact. Now if you place the tweeters down in the kick panels then the right speaker distance is about three feet and the left speaker is about three and a half. The problem is not eradicated but it becomes a lot less noticeable as the distance separation is reduced.
Now obviously the tweeters cannot be placed anywhere where they fire straight into ones feet so you have to be very careful about their placement on both sides and the more often than not this results in them being mounted very high in the kick panel, quite often out of sight like mine are because they're so far up under the dash.
The next question people ask is this; isn't the stage going to be low?
The answer is not so much to do with the physical tweeter location but the power level they receive. If you have sufficient power going to each tweeter from a high quality amplifier then your tweeters will not only fill out the stage 'height' nicely but the entire front cabin of the car. That said though, serious competitors utilise ambient tweeters up high (these are much quieter than the primary tweeters however) to lift the stage a little to head height from chest height that usually exists.
The problem with mounting tweeters up high (e.g. on the sail area on the door) is this:
Think about the position of your ears in relation to the tweeters. One speaker is belting the high pitch tunes out about two feet from your right ear where as the left tweeter is triple that distance away. The stage has no choice but to be right out the right window. Sheer laws of physics govern this fact. Now if you place the tweeters down in the kick panels then the right speaker distance is about three feet and the left speaker is about three and a half. The problem is not eradicated but it becomes a lot less noticeable as the distance separation is reduced.
Now obviously the tweeters cannot be placed anywhere where they fire straight into ones feet so you have to be very careful about their placement on both sides and the more often than not this results in them being mounted very high in the kick panel, quite often out of sight like mine are because they're so far up under the dash.
The next question people ask is this; isn't the stage going to be low?
The answer is not so much to do with the physical tweeter location but the power level they receive. If you have sufficient power going to each tweeter from a high quality amplifier then your tweeters will not only fill out the stage 'height' nicely but the entire front cabin of the car. That said though, serious competitors utilise ambient tweeters up high (these are much quieter than the primary tweeters however) to lift the stage a little to head height from chest height that usually exists.
#8
Thanks for the info vividjazz. I'll take a look at how well the tweeters will mount down below on the kick panel. it will be a lot easier to install and mount the crossover...thats for sure. Thanks!
#13
I mounted my tweeters high up in the kick panel, right under the shelf. You cannot see them at all. They are angled towards the seats as much as it would allow. Being down there, I thought the tweeter would be a little quiet so I turned up a 3db gain on them. Now after listening to the system for a few weeks, the tweeters are just too powerful, so they will be put back to 0db.
Test fit them into the kick panel to check staging, you will be surprised!
Al.
Test fit them into the kick panel to check staging, you will be surprised!
Al.
#14
Originally Posted by p11wrg
I mounted my tweeters high up in the kick panel, right under the shelf. You cannot see them at all. They are angled towards the seats as much as it would allow. Being down there, I thought the tweeter would be a little quiet so I turned up a 3db gain on them. Now after listening to the system for a few weeks, the tweeters are just too powerful, so they will be put back to 0db.
Test fit them into the kick panel to check staging, you will be surprised!
Al.
Test fit them into the kick panel to check staging, you will be surprised!
Al.
Could you take a picture so I can get an idea how high you put the tweeters on the kick panel? Thanks!
smeister
#15
Here you go:
Some more pics of my install can be found at : www.mademake.plus.com/Jazz
Al.
Some more pics of my install can be found at : www.mademake.plus.com/Jazz
Al.
Originally Posted by smeister
Al,
Could you take a picture so I can get an idea how high you put the tweeters on the kick panel? Thanks!
smeister
Could you take a picture so I can get an idea how high you put the tweeters on the kick panel? Thanks!
smeister
Last edited by p11wrg; 06-23-2006 at 06:31 AM.
#16
Optimum mounting position will vary with different speakers just as their sound varies and low mounting only works when you have decent power behind them hence why factory setups are high mounted. Factory setups are also high mounted for showing off the fact they have a tweeter. The setups that win the real shows though (serious Sound Quality comps) are most often low.
#17
Man, I setup like p11wrg and the sound is awesome. I had to turn up the treble to +4 on the stock headunit and the brightness of them is perfect for me. Thanks for your help guys! I'll put a few pics up later of the location.