C-pillar Bar Plastic Seatbelt Cover
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Eric
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my problem is that little box at the back of the cover,once i cut it i wont be able to connect them together,i wish its located at the lower part of the cover but its not,anyway i havent seen a member that has put back that cover after they installed the c-pillar bar on their fit,who knows somebody might have a better idea,its only a cover so i dont care if its ugly or beautiful,im happy to have my c-pillar bar & progress rear anti sway bar combination,its just so much fun to drive,and the handling is so much better.
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the c-pillar bar is designed to increase rigidity on the frame of a vehicle.
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Maybe if someone mounted a bar from one rear strut console (not the shock absorber stud) diagonally to the opposite upper seat belt mount, it would add rigidity, (like a cross brace on a roll cage) but I'm still not convinced that the roof moves around that much in relation to the lower body pan.
If you're trying to tie the suspension into a more rigid structure, you need to figure out where there is detrimental movement, then design a reinforcement that reduces or eliminates that movement.
For example, I do believe that the Progress rear torsion bar stiffens the rear carrier axle, which is designed to flex. From everyone's review of this bar, it seems to have a very noticable effect, I have to wait until they make more to buy one. This type of bar would have no effect on a rigid axle or add really bad stress/movement on a fully independent suspension, but on a Fit, it works. It is a specific answer to a specific problem.
I'm willing to be convinced, but the answer has to make sense.
Eric
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Pretty generic answer. That would imply that there is movement between the upper rear seatbelt mounts without the bar. I would believe there are some vehicles that might benefit from a bar like this, but with the roof so close on a Fit and these mounting points so far from the suspension control points, I don't believe that this bar would have any measurable effect on these cars.
Maybe if someone mounted a bar from one rear strut console (not the shock absorber stud) diagonally to the opposite upper seat belt mount, it would add rigidity, (like a cross brace on a roll cage) but I'm still not convinced that the roof moves around that much in relation to the lower body pan.
If you're trying to tie the suspension into a more rigid structure, you need to figure out where there is detrimental movement, then design a reinforcement that reduces or eliminates that movement.
For example, I do believe that the Progress rear torsion bar stiffens the rear carrier axle, which is designed to flex. From everyone's review of this bar, it seems to have a very noticable effect, I have to wait until they make more to buy one. This type of bar would have no effect on a rigid axle or add really bad stress/movement on a fully independent suspension, but on a Fit, it works. It is a specific answer to a specific problem.
I'm willing to be convinced, but the answer has to make sense.
Eric
Maybe if someone mounted a bar from one rear strut console (not the shock absorber stud) diagonally to the opposite upper seat belt mount, it would add rigidity, (like a cross brace on a roll cage) but I'm still not convinced that the roof moves around that much in relation to the lower body pan.
If you're trying to tie the suspension into a more rigid structure, you need to figure out where there is detrimental movement, then design a reinforcement that reduces or eliminates that movement.
For example, I do believe that the Progress rear torsion bar stiffens the rear carrier axle, which is designed to flex. From everyone's review of this bar, it seems to have a very noticable effect, I have to wait until they make more to buy one. This type of bar would have no effect on a rigid axle or add really bad stress/movement on a fully independent suspension, but on a Fit, it works. It is a specific answer to a specific problem.
I'm willing to be convinced, but the answer has to make sense.
Eric
Last edited by boyetssilverfit; Jun 8, 2007 at 10:19 AM. Reason: I
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i dont give a rats ass on what you think,if youre a japanese engineer who designed the HONDA FIT i might believe you,but if not, who cares on what you think?by the way if you ask a question that youve already know the answer why sound like a broken record and keep asking?
Like I said before, I'm willing to be convinced, but the answer has to make sense. I know that there's plenty that I don't know, but I rarely take promototional text or urban legend as gospel. I'm just here to learn more about my car.
Eric
