Swift Springs for Daily Driver?
Swift Springs for Daily Driver?
Forum Newbie here. Been scanning the threads and have a question: My NBP is my daily, all-year-round, driver - in Michigan (aka the land of limitless potholes). Still, I'd like to lower my Fit slightly from both an appearance standpoint as well as improving the handling. Given my locale, I like the mild drop the Swift springs offer, but before I jump into this, I'd like to hear from folks who've used them. Note I'm talking about retaining the stock shocks/struts - not going to coilovers.
So, who's used `em. How do you like `em? Would you recommend them to some on e in my situation?
Thanks!
So, who's used `em. How do you like `em? Would you recommend them to some on e in my situation?
Thanks!
Well...i've never been to michigan, but i commute through downtown LA and our roads are pretty beaten up too. If you do a mild drop, you should be fine, just try and avoid as many pot holes as possible. Lowering your car increases your chances of bottoming out especially if you choose a spring rate that's too soft for the amount of distance your lowering it.
hope i wasn't repeating something you already knew
hope i wasn't repeating something you already knew
swift springs are really soft. its sooo close to stock. the drop isnt drastic, so you wont have to worry about pot holes or anything. i mean my S-techs for me are great for DD. and San Diego is either A. all construction areas or B. pot holes and dirt roads.
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
swift springs are really soft. its sooo close to stock. the drop isnt drastic, so you wont have to worry about pot holes or anything. i mean my S-techs for me are great for DD. and San Diego is either A. all construction areas or B. pot holes and dirt roads.
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
swift springs are really soft. its sooo close to stock. the drop isnt drastic, so you wont have to worry about pot holes or anything. i mean my S-techs for me are great for DD. and San Diego is either A. all construction areas or B. pot holes and dirt roads.
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
like i said swift srings are close to stock with a mild drop
the drop of the swifts are mild, and with the rate of double of stock i believe they will have less of a chance of bottoming out, unless you are jumping speed bumps.
Evo Garage in Richmond, British Columbia is an Authorized Dealer of SWIFT Springs. So if you're in need of any of their products give David Ying a call.
Ive heard that the swift springs are pretty good but never tried them. I have the Tanabe DF210's and the stance is really aggressive. It also handles very well and isnt harsh at all for LA roads. If you get the swifts let us know how the work out for you.
from what i have heard and seen it all depends on which swift springs you get. some of the swift springs advertised are the jdm version which was designed specifically for the jdm fits. after realizing that usdm fits are heavier than their japanese counter parts swift redesigned a set of springs for our NA fits. if you find your self with a set of the jdm model swifts the advertised drop of 1 inch will actually be 2 or close to 3 on a usdm fit. which means mondo rubbing if you have larger wheels. hopupracing.com sells swifts, at least i think they do. yea they do. just checked. but im not sure if they are the version for our NA fits.
swift springs for DD? yes. 100%
this will probably start a fight, but looking through the other springs available, the swifts, i think, are the only clear choice. retain sufficient, functional clearance; linear; perfectly good ride comfort. and if you have aspirations for autox or track work, the linear part is the single reason one would rule out the rest.
i live in DC. roads here are crap because the DC government is useless. not as bad as jersey or michigan, but let's say the feedback is instantaneous if you'll be friends with your suspension or not. when selecting the swifts, my priority was keeping suspension travel. hondas don't have a lot to begin with. the only way to do that is to get the least drop you'll still find aesthetically attractive. then i considered the weight of the car in various load configurations, the advertised/ expected reduction in static ride height, and considered that the whole point in getting these to begin with was to "improve handling" quality.
with those things in mind, there was absolutely no way i would get a progressively would spring. i don't like their "dynamics." besides, how do you measure a progressive spring's claimed spring rate? at 1" of compression? when it's almost fully compressed? what is it when it's somewhere in between? plus, what if the progressive winding on it is particularly soft? that means bumps will cause quite a bit of spring compression. it's not a big deal on stock static height, but now we're in a situation with soft initial rates plus already reduced travel. with those in mind, anything progressively wound would not meet my requirements, so all the springs with a progressive of any kind were automatically out.
lastly, 3k/5k is by no means stiff or harsh (for me). but i had the experience to know that from other cars, so all said and done, that's how i ended up picking swifts. suspension is one of those times where it is worthwhile to really, really think it over and spend the extra (if necessary) to get the one that suits what you're looking for.
this will probably start a fight, but looking through the other springs available, the swifts, i think, are the only clear choice. retain sufficient, functional clearance; linear; perfectly good ride comfort. and if you have aspirations for autox or track work, the linear part is the single reason one would rule out the rest.
i live in DC. roads here are crap because the DC government is useless. not as bad as jersey or michigan, but let's say the feedback is instantaneous if you'll be friends with your suspension or not. when selecting the swifts, my priority was keeping suspension travel. hondas don't have a lot to begin with. the only way to do that is to get the least drop you'll still find aesthetically attractive. then i considered the weight of the car in various load configurations, the advertised/ expected reduction in static ride height, and considered that the whole point in getting these to begin with was to "improve handling" quality.
with those things in mind, there was absolutely no way i would get a progressively would spring. i don't like their "dynamics." besides, how do you measure a progressive spring's claimed spring rate? at 1" of compression? when it's almost fully compressed? what is it when it's somewhere in between? plus, what if the progressive winding on it is particularly soft? that means bumps will cause quite a bit of spring compression. it's not a big deal on stock static height, but now we're in a situation with soft initial rates plus already reduced travel. with those in mind, anything progressively wound would not meet my requirements, so all the springs with a progressive of any kind were automatically out.
lastly, 3k/5k is by no means stiff or harsh (for me). but i had the experience to know that from other cars, so all said and done, that's how i ended up picking swifts. suspension is one of those times where it is worthwhile to really, really think it over and spend the extra (if necessary) to get the one that suits what you're looking for.
Last edited by kennef; Feb 2, 2008 at 03:53 PM.
^ Good info.
I've been actually thinking of getting the Swifts to replace my current Progress springs, which in my opinion is still a little low for me at 1.5-1.7" drop in the front.
Planning the get some 15x7 41mm RPF1's with 205/50's in the near future and I don't want any rubbing!
Do you have any close up pics of the fender clearance with the Swifts on?
I've been actually thinking of getting the Swifts to replace my current Progress springs, which in my opinion is still a little low for me at 1.5-1.7" drop in the front.
Planning the get some 15x7 41mm RPF1's with 205/50's in the near future and I don't want any rubbing!
Do you have any close up pics of the fender clearance with the Swifts on?
^ Good info.
I've been actually thinking of getting the Swifts to replace my current Progress springs, which in my opinion is still a little low for me at 1.5-1.7" drop in the front.
Planning the get some 15x7 41mm RPF1's with 205/50's in the near future and I don't want any rubbing!
Do you have any close up pics of the fender clearance with the Swifts on?
I've been actually thinking of getting the Swifts to replace my current Progress springs, which in my opinion is still a little low for me at 1.5-1.7" drop in the front.
Planning the get some 15x7 41mm RPF1's with 205/50's in the near future and I don't want any rubbing!
Do you have any close up pics of the fender clearance with the Swifts on?
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Maybe track the Fit too?
from what i have heard and seen it all depends on which swift springs you get. some of the swift springs advertised are the jdm version which was designed specifically for the jdm fits. after realizing that usdm fits are heavier than their japanese counter parts swift redesigned a set of springs for our NA fits. if you find your self with a set of the jdm model swifts the advertised drop of 1 inch will actually be 2 or close to 3 on a usdm fit. which means mondo rubbing if you have larger wheels. hopupracing.com sells swifts, at least i think they do. yea they do. just checked. but im not sure if they are the version for our NA fits.
so how does one know if the swifts you have are in fact for the N/A fit? king m.s. sells them...but they don't disclose which version they were inteded for...Ken, did you look for a slight drop and then get slammed to the floor?
So, once again it's kind of confusing. For the most part these springs sound really perfect for DD, but ToyotaLover comes in a just flips that upside down saying they are way too stiff/one of the stiffer springs available.
So I am trying to decide between GF210s and Swifts. Both have reviews/manufacturer claims of great DD, as well as reviews saying they are harsh. Dang already!
So I am trying to decide between GF210s and Swifts. Both have reviews/manufacturer claims of great DD, as well as reviews saying they are harsh. Dang already!
So, once again it's kind of confusing. For the most part these springs sound really perfect for DD, but ToyotaLover comes in a just flips that upside down saying they are way too stiff/one of the stiffer springs available.
So I am trying to decide between GF210s and Swifts. Both have reviews/manufacturer claims of great DD, as well as reviews saying they are harsh. Dang already!
So I am trying to decide between GF210s and Swifts. Both have reviews/manufacturer claims of great DD, as well as reviews saying they are harsh. Dang already!
everybody has different needs/requirements. don't be too suprised if opinions differ.
toyotalover should chime in on what he is using now (i belive he is on coilovers.)
kennef has posted in that same thread that toyota lover mentioned (the one about spring rates and such) and has stated that its not as bad as the specs would indicate. look at the rates for the tanabe's: its not that great either.



