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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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ABS delete?

Anyone done this? I did a quick search which turned up nothing.

I often find myself using the e-brake to help with stopping (usually during winter). The ABS always seems to kick in way earlier than it should, or that I would like anyway. I deleted the ABS from my truck and it felt much safer to drive afterward so I wondering if I'll get similar results with the Fit.
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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I believe you can disable ABS by pulling fuse 25.

Here's a diagram from the owners manual:
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Ikutoisahobo is right. I was also told to disconnect the clip from the ABS unit as well. I still haven't tried this yet for the track. As soon as I get the car I plan to see the difference.
 
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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I pulled the ABS fuse in a 1991 Accord I had because it was making some weird chipmunky sound. Anyway, a few days later I was driving on the freeway and got cut off and the mf'er who cut me off slammed on their brakes so hard I swear the minivan's rear wheels were off the ground. So, I slammed on my brakes to avoid my front end meeting with their rear end. A few seconds later the concrete barrier on the side of thr freeway helped me stop as I hit it head-on while drifting to the left. I forgot that without the ABS fuse in I no longer had anti-lock brakes. Which means thay rather than stomping a hole in my brake pedal I was supposed to pump them. Well, I was too young and inexperience at driving non-ABS cars that I forgot and wrecked my car. Thankfully I was okay and didn't run into anyone else. Moral of the story? If you pull the fuse, remember to pump brakes, not stomp on them.
 
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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Thanks for the help.
Yeah, I don't think disabling the ABS is for everyone. I've had a few moments that registered on the pucker factor scale but I've always pumped the brakes so I'm not particularly concerned in that regard. That being said, I've had many more close calls on ice directly due to the ABS that otherwise wouldn't have happened.

The only accident I've been in (wet, narrow, winding country road), I did have ABS but it certainly didn't help me avoid the accident. I was too close to the outside corner of a turn (no shoulder with a nasty ditch) which startled me and I jerked the steering wheel, car slid sideways until it caught traction and shot across the road into a rock wall, spun around and almost flipped.

Ideally, it would be nice if I could wire an ABS override/shutoff switch to the cab.
 
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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Ideally, it would be nice if I could wire an ABS override/shutoff switch to the cab.
If all it takes to disable it is to remove a fuse that would be super simple to do. Like 10 minutes simple.

IDK if or how your insurance company would feel about that though. Not saying don't do it just something to consider.
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 12:45 AM
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I pulled the plug off the ABS motor while at the drag strip. Having one bad tire pressure sensor means I cannot turn VSA off

I have had the plug disconnected for approx 15k miles and so far so good.

I do not think its a good idea to delete the ABS. Just disable by pulling the plug and deal with 3-4 more dashlights
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 02:30 AM
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I think you could setup a fuse bypass switch of sorts. I know there are fuse switches out there which you can wire up,
The concept seems like it'd do the trick to disable and enable the ABS fuse.


Amazon.com: Blue Ox BX88294 ATC/ATO Fuse Bypass Switch: Automotive Amazon.com: Blue Ox BX88294 ATC/ATO Fuse Bypass Switch: Automotive

This is to enable and disable towing but I'd think the general concept for all fuses would be the same?
 

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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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The ABS system works fine on this car. Better tires and brakes will let you get a better feel out of it.

I still suggest, either pulling the plug off the ABS motor, or leaving it alone. Pulling a fuse only partially disables the system, the VSA is still gonna be looking for why nothing is working.
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 13fit
The ABS system works fine on this car. Better tires and brakes will let you get a better feel out of it.

I still suggest, either pulling the plug off the ABS motor, or leaving it alone. Pulling a fuse only partially disables the system, the VSA is still gonna be looking for why nothing is working.
The GD Fit doesn't have VSA I believe.
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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The GD Fit doesn't have VSA I believe.
I know my 2007 USDM base didn't. Did the GD Sport models?
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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I know my 2007 USDM base didn't. Did the GD Sport models?
The Sports don't have it either. I researched this a couple months back and the only aid we have is ABS. That's exactly how I like it!

The Sport has mostly cosmetic differences, but the only other differences would be:

Wider wheels, 195 vs 175 (?)

Cruise Control

Paddle Shifters w/ auto

Fog lights

and that's it really.
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ikutoisahobo
The Sport has mostly cosmetic differences, but the only other differences would be:

Wider wheels, 195 vs 175 (?)

Cruise Control

Paddle Shifters w/ auto

Fog lights

and that's it really.
Which is probably why I opted for the Base that cost $1500 less since there were no engine advantages to the Sport over the Base. And don't forget the body kit and tailgate wing.
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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I thought paddle shifters were only available on the GE. The cosmetics on the Sport were worth it.
 
Old Jul 3, 2014 | 12:03 AM
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I thought paddle shifters were only available on the GE. The cosmetics on the Sport were worth it.
Yeah, I would not want a base Fit, it just looks ugh in its stock form. The Sport changes the look of the car greatly. But I can see why people would rather save 1500 and spend it on mods or something since there is no mechanical advantages to the Sport.
 
Old Jul 3, 2014 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ikutoisahobo
Yeah, I would not want a base Fit, it just looks ugh in its stock form. The Sport changes the look of the car greatly. But I can see why people would rather save 1500 and spend it on mods or something since there is no mechanical advantages to the Sport.
No way! Base GD really looks bad, IMO. Base GE looks kinda cool. Always liked the GE body, more agressive styling. I think they got it right with the GE.

I wanted to install a switch to allow me to disable ABS for winter driving. Definitely sucks for that especially that mine is overly sensitive. I,think,I might have a faulty sensor. No CEL. Keep me posted if you succeed in your ABS delete quest, I might do the same.
 
Old Jul 3, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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I really question the driving style and braking habits of you guys some times. using your E-brake to help stop? what? The only time I ever had the ABS trigger was when I tried, slamming the peddle to the ground to get the car to slide in the slush/snow.
 
Old Jul 4, 2014 | 12:00 PM
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The purpose of the ABS is to prevent skidding which allows you to steer the car during maximum braking, i.e. in an emergency. It's a safety device. In jet airplanes the same system is actually called anti-skid. The system modulates the brake pressure thousands of times more frequently than you can pump the brakes yourself.

If the system is activating too soon have the system checked instead of disabling it. Why are you applying maximum brake effort in normal driving?
 
Old Jul 4, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ikutoisahobo
Yeah, I would not want a base Fit, it just looks ugh in its stock form. The Sport changes the look of the car greatly. But I can see why people would rather save 1500 and spend it on mods or something since there is no mechanical advantages to the Sport.

I have what started as a base gd.

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Anyways back on track. Op make sure your tires have plenty of tread. I know you said it happens in the snow. I haven't drove an abs car in snow but I bet it's gotta be annoying. Any who like these guys said you could pull the fuse or unplug the module either one should work. The module connector is pretty easy to get to. I did this on my race car. My sure that you understand what wheel slip feels like because tires don't always make noise in case of panic stops.

be careful.
 
Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:51 PM
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But yeah, like the others said, the dangers of disabling ABS outnumber the advantages so keep that in mind. I understand people don't want ABS interfering when they're autoxing or something. If you're used to driving older cars without ABS then by all means, go ahead and disable it. In the end it's about how safe you feel without ABS.

I think getting some sort of switch setup is worth it.
 

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