Axis OG wheels? Rubbing?
#1
Axis OG wheels? Rubbing?
(I have a 2008 honda fit base) I've never had aftermarket wheels on any car I've owned, but I'm considering getting some with summer tires and keeping the stock ones with the winter tires I have on now.
Anyway, I have a few questions someone can hopefully answer.
I wanted to get these:
Now my concern is rubbing. I want to keep the stock suspension and ride height. They're also wider, being 15x7. I'm wondering will they rub over bumps, or when I'm turning sharply? When I order them from tire rack or wherever, can I just throw them on when I get them? Do I need some sort of spacers or something?
Anyway, I have a few questions someone can hopefully answer.
I wanted to get these:
Now my concern is rubbing. I want to keep the stock suspension and ride height. They're also wider, being 15x7. I'm wondering will they rub over bumps, or when I'm turning sharply? When I order them from tire rack or wherever, can I just throw them on when I get them? Do I need some sort of spacers or something?
- Size: 15x7
- Offset: 35mm (What does this mean exactly?)
- Backspacing: 5.35"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100 (works on fit?)
- Rec. Tire Size: 195/55-15
- Weight: 16.7lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Sil w/Mach Lip
- Construction: 1pc. Gravity Cast
- Finish Warranty: 1 Year
- Manufactured in Taiwan
Last edited by fr8train; 02-19-2015 at 11:37 PM.
#2
Read up on this:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Also Tirerack has those on clearance for $99 each and you can see what it looks like on your Fit using their web page. The Axis OG will fit that you selected though personally I would opt for 205/50-15 tires with that offset and width.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Also Tirerack has those on clearance for $99 each and you can see what it looks like on your Fit using their web page. The Axis OG will fit that you selected though personally I would opt for 205/50-15 tires with that offset and width.
#4
(I have a 2008 honda fit base) I've never had aftermarket wheels on any car I've owned, but I'm considering getting some with summer tires and keeping the stock ones with the winter tires I have on now.
Anyway, I have a few questions someone can hopefully answer.
I wanted to get these:
Now my concern is rubbing. I want to keep the stock suspension and ride height. They're also wider, being 15x7. I'm wondering will they rub over bumps, or when I'm turning sharply? When I order them from tire rack or wherever, can I just throw them on when I get them? Do I need some sort of spacers or something?
Anyway, I have a few questions someone can hopefully answer.
I wanted to get these:
Now my concern is rubbing. I want to keep the stock suspension and ride height. They're also wider, being 15x7. I'm wondering will they rub over bumps, or when I'm turning sharply? When I order them from tire rack or wherever, can I just throw them on when I get them? Do I need some sort of spacers or something?
- Size: 15x7
- Offset: 35mm (What does this mean exactly?)
- Backspacing: 5.35"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100 (works on fit?)
- Rec. Tire Size: 195/55-15
- Weight: 16.7lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Sil w/Mach Lip
- Construction: 1pc. Gravity Cast
- Finish Warranty: 1 Year
- Manufactured in Taiwan
when 195/55x15 tires are pushed out from the wheel hub by virtually 3/4" there is almost certainly going to be interference betwee the fender well and the tire tread.
you should choose a wheel with an offset of not less than 45 mm to be safe with tires the same diameter as the oem tire. If you must have an offset less than 45 mm expect smaller diameter tires or fender rework.
whew. complicated enough? there are numerous drawings on line, including tirerack.com
try 15x7 wheels with 45mm offset for your 195/55x15 tires. and be careful whose tires you choose; increasing the weight of the tirtes by a couple of pounds will assault your mpg's and acceleration.
good luck.
#5
complicated enough? there are numerous drawings on line, including tirerack.com
try 15x7 wheels with 45mm offset for your 195/55x15 tires. and be careful whose tires you choose; increasing the weight of the tirtes by a couple of pounds will assault your mpg's and acceleration.
good luck.
try 15x7 wheels with 45mm offset for your 195/55x15 tires. and be careful whose tires you choose; increasing the weight of the tirtes by a couple of pounds will assault your mpg's and acceleration.
good luck.
What about these?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
Front and Rear
- Size: 14x5
- Offset: 45mm
- Backspacing: 4.76"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 175/65-14
- Weight: 13.25lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Silver
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland
Would stock sized tires work on these? From the stock rims that is. I still have my all seasons I could probably use for at least one more summer. These are 14in like the stock wheels, but I don't know the exact size of the tires I have as I'm not at home at the moment (I guess they're 175/65R14, which is the recommended size for the Anzio Turn, though the offset is different), though I think stock is 14x5.5 not 5., the offset is 45mm like you recommend.
These are 14x5.5 but their offset is only 40mm:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
- Size: 14x5.5
- Offset: 40mm
- Backspacing: 4.803"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 175/65-14
- Weight: 14.75lbs.
- Finish: Black Painted
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland
Last edited by fr8train; 02-20-2015 at 06:09 PM.
#6
haha it is, thanks for the detailed write up.
What about these?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
Front and Rear
Would stock sized tires work on these? From the stock rims that is. I still have my all seasons I could probably use for at least one more summer. These are 14in like the stock wheels, but I don't know the exact size of the tires I have as I'm not at home at the moment (I guess they're 175/65R14, which is the recommended size for the Anzio Turn, though the offset is different), though I think stock is 14x5.5 not 5., the offset is 45mm like you recommend.
These are 14x5.5 but their offset is only 40mm:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
What about these?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
Front and Rear
- Size: 14x5
- Offset: 45mm
- Backspacing: 4.76"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 175/65-14
- Weight: 13.25lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Silver
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland
Would stock sized tires work on these? From the stock rims that is. I still have my all seasons I could probably use for at least one more summer. These are 14in like the stock wheels, but I don't know the exact size of the tires I have as I'm not at home at the moment (I guess they're 175/65R14, which is the recommended size for the Anzio Turn, though the offset is different), though I think stock is 14x5.5 not 5., the offset is 45mm like you recommend.
These are 14x5.5 but their offset is only 40mm:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
- Size: 14x5.5
- Offset: 40mm
- Backspacing: 4.803"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 175/65-14
- Weight: 14.75lbs.
- Finish: Black Painted
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland
#7
Yeah it has the stock 14in steel wheels. Is there any way to know whether any of the two wheels above will fit prior to ordering them? I suppose I could just chuck the old tires and get new ones, but I'd hate to get them only to have them not clear the brakes or rub badly.
#8
uhhh
if you like them get them. i have 16x7 +42 wheels and they only rub when i go over a speed bump way to fast. never just cuz I'm driving regularly. if you're not planning on dropping the fit than you should be fine.
#9
When I throw them in the cart tirerack wants to charge $200 additionally TPMS sensors, which I don't think I have on my base 2008 fit.
However, if I search as 2007 fit, I don't get this problem. I'd like to order this size:
- Size: 15x5.5
- Offset: 45mm
- Backspacing: 5.039"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 195/55-15
2007 vs 2008 above (no $200 mandatory charge for some sensors)
Last edited by fr8train; 02-23-2015 at 01:42 AM.
#10
Take a look on here, most will recommend 40-45 offset so you don't have any rubbing even if lowered.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...-included.html
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...-included.html
#11
Take a look on here, most will recommend 40-45 offset so you don't have any rubbing even if lowered.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...-included.html
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...-included.html
#12
Regarding the TPMS, I believe all the 08's have it; 07's don't, therefore if you get wheels that don't have TPMS, the TPMS light will go on on your dash. That said, some folks don't care; most states let you pass inspection with a TPMS light on; some don't.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
#13
Regarding the TPMS, I believe all the 08's have it; 07's don't, therefore if you get wheels that don't have TPMS, the TPMS light will go on on your dash. That said, some folks don't care; most states let you pass inspection with a TPMS light on; some don't.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
stick with minimum of 45 mm offset
#14
Regarding the TPMS, I believe all the 08's have it; 07's don't, therefore if you get wheels that don't have TPMS, the TPMS light will go on on your dash. That said, some folks don't care; most states let you pass inspection with a TPMS light on; some don't.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
In terms of "will it rub or not" you need to figure how where your planned configuration puts the wheel treads. As mentioned above, with stock 195 tires you can use a minimum offset of about 40-45 and it probably won't rub ever. A 205 tire is 10mm wider, so the tread sticks out another 5mm, so keep your offsets 45mm-50mm or more. A 185 tire sticks out 5mm less than stock, so you could probably make 185's work on a 35-40mm offset wheel. Etc.
I personally run 185-65r14 snow tires on 33mm offset 14" wheels (BMW bottlecaps) and they rub a little bit over big bumps.
the driver here who tried that got substantial rubbing. the 185/65x14 tire is not quite the same diameter as 175/65x15, which helps, but the extra tread width +5 mm, and push of offset from 53 to 33 mm, over 3/4", made the interference with the fender virtually certain. if you don't turn the steering wheel...
stick with minimum of 45 mm offset
stick with minimum of 45 mm offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...&association=1
#15
Yeah it has the stock 14in steel wheels. Is there any way to know whether any of the two wheels above will fit prior to ordering them? I suppose I could just chuck the old tires and get new ones, but I'd hate to get them only to have them not clear the brakes or rub badly.
you do want those 45mm offset wheels; the rim width is only of interest to make sure they are proper width for the tire you want and that varies with the profile, from 70 to 35 series the rim must be wider to accomodate the increasing width and less sidewall to 'adjust'. generally speaking the rim width most useful is one that is the same, or very close to, the tread width which is usually 10 to 20 mm less than the section width. example a 175 tire is 6.6" wide and the tread width 155 mm, or 5.86", so a rim width of 6 to 7 inches is good.. a 5" rim is economy speaking to save on wheel cost but the best choice is a 6" width rim so you can easily choose between any width tire from 175 to 205 down to a 50 profile series.the offset says only how far horizontally the centerline of a tire is from the hub face to which the wheel is mounted. when the offset is 45 mm, about a half inche farther outward than OEM, almost all tires up to 205 section width at not bigger diameter than OEM will fit very nicely.
cheers. hope than helps.
ps yes 7" rim width is better for tires more than 175 section. - and still works when offset is 45 mm.
oh one other observation; those wide rims have proiblems with weight and bad tire fits that you need to avoid. cool they may look but they drive like crap. likewise, lowering by more than 1.5".
enjoy.
#16
you can't tell whether the spokes wil;l clear calipers unless the seller says so. sellers like tirerack or discount tire clearly will tell you if they know what car you have. they'll even show you what they look like on your car if you want.
you do want those 45mm offset wheels; the rim width is only of interest to make sure they are proper width for the tire you want and that varies with the profile, from 70 to 35 series the rim must be wider to accomodate the increasing width and less sidewall to 'adjust'. generally speaking the rim width most useful is one that is the same, or very close to, the tread width which is usually 10 to 20 mm less than the section width. example a 175 tire is 6.6" wide and the tread width 155 mm, or 5.86", so a rim width of 6 to 7 inches is good.. a 5" rim is economy speaking to save on wheel cost but the best choice is a 6" width rim so you can easily choose between any width tire from 175 to 205 down to a 50 profile series.the offset says only how far horizontally the centerline of a tire is from the hub face to which the wheel is mounted. when the offset is 45 mm, about a half inche farther outward than OEM, almost all tires up to 205 section width at not bigger diameter than OEM will fit very nicely.
cheers. hope than helps.
ps yes 7" rim width is better for tires more than 175 section. - and still works when offset is 45 mm.
oh one other observation; those wide rims have proiblems with weight and bad tire fits that you need to avoid. cool they may look but they drive like crap. likewise, lowering by more than 1.5".
enjoy.
you do want those 45mm offset wheels; the rim width is only of interest to make sure they are proper width for the tire you want and that varies with the profile, from 70 to 35 series the rim must be wider to accomodate the increasing width and less sidewall to 'adjust'. generally speaking the rim width most useful is one that is the same, or very close to, the tread width which is usually 10 to 20 mm less than the section width. example a 175 tire is 6.6" wide and the tread width 155 mm, or 5.86", so a rim width of 6 to 7 inches is good.. a 5" rim is economy speaking to save on wheel cost but the best choice is a 6" width rim so you can easily choose between any width tire from 175 to 205 down to a 50 profile series.the offset says only how far horizontally the centerline of a tire is from the hub face to which the wheel is mounted. when the offset is 45 mm, about a half inche farther outward than OEM, almost all tires up to 205 section width at not bigger diameter than OEM will fit very nicely.
cheers. hope than helps.
ps yes 7" rim width is better for tires more than 175 section. - and still works when offset is 45 mm.
oh one other observation; those wide rims have proiblems with weight and bad tire fits that you need to avoid. cool they may look but they drive like crap. likewise, lowering by more than 1.5".
enjoy.
#18
it is unusual for an alloy wheel to have spokes that interfere with the calipers on wheels specified to meet the above specs but rare to advise clearance on a specific vehicle.
Ask the seller; more than likely the spokes will clear but only an OK from the seller or manufacturer will be certain.
#19
The wheel size, the rim width, offset, and bolt circle do NOT specify the shape of the spokes; there are wheels with nearly flat spokes that will not clear the caliper. only the manufacturer or competent seller will let you know if the wheel spokes clear the caliper on a given model of vehicle.
it is unusual for an alloy wheel to have spokes that interfere with the calipers on wheels specified to meet the above specs but rare to advise clearance on a specific vehicle.
Ask the seller; more than likely the spokes will clear but only an OK from the seller or manufacturer will be certain.
it is unusual for an alloy wheel to have spokes that interfere with the calipers on wheels specified to meet the above specs but rare to advise clearance on a specific vehicle.
Ask the seller; more than likely the spokes will clear but only an OK from the seller or manufacturer will be certain.
- Size: 15x5.5
- Offset: 45mm
- Backspacing: 5.039"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 195/55-15
- Weight: 15.8lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Silver
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland
Last edited by fr8train; 03-02-2015 at 12:59 PM.
#20
They're one of the wheels that come up when I search under 2008 honda fit, under photos they have them mounted on a late model honda civic. Does the fit have odd wheels that could make this an issue? I may contact tirerack and ask. Thanks again.
- Size: 15x5.5
- Offset: 45mm
- Backspacing: 5.039"
- Bolt Pattern: 4-100
- Rec. Tire Size: 195/55-15
- Weight: 15.8lbs.
- Finish: Matte Graphite Silver
- Construction: 1pc. Low Pressure Cast
- Finish Warranty: 2 Years
- Manufactured in Poland