Fit S AT vs MT
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From: Hudson Valley near NYC
Fit S AT vs MT
I am a dyed in the wool MT car driver. My 98 civic EX copue and my 94 Integra GSR are both MT.
However my gf nags me to get the AT so she can drive the car too. Im kinda leaning towards the Sport AT with paddles. but obviously the shifting is not as responsive right?
I had a negative experience while driving the Mazda 6 couple years back at the Mazda Rev It Up promotion. they had these tiptronic craptacular Mazda 6 cars. You run them thrum an enlarged autox course. the shifting was late and slow.
How is the sport AT when driving "enthusiatically"? The shifting and what not. How much delay is there?
However my gf nags me to get the AT so she can drive the car too. Im kinda leaning towards the Sport AT with paddles. but obviously the shifting is not as responsive right?
I had a negative experience while driving the Mazda 6 couple years back at the Mazda Rev It Up promotion. they had these tiptronic craptacular Mazda 6 cars. You run them thrum an enlarged autox course. the shifting was late and slow.
How is the sport AT when driving "enthusiatically"? The shifting and what not. How much delay is there?
I definetly reccomend the AT. The paddles are definetly fun to use, and the overall responsiveness is pretty impresive. The only problem i have with them is while driving hard on a canyon road while the whell is turned you kinda have to search for the paddles because they turn with the wheel. After a while you get used to it, and you become really good at it after some practice. Also it makes you feel like your driving a car thats double the price of the Fit because of the paddle shifter technology. When you put it in "S" mode, a little light lights up inder the tach and digitally tells what gear your in, very helpfull.
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From: Dallas, TX
I can't comment on the Fit AT, but if it were my choice, I'd buy the MT and offer to teach the GF how to drive a manual transmission. You'll get brownie points if you can be a patient teacher, and she'll get a boost and will brag to her friends that she learned how to drive a stick (don't go there).
If you go this route, the method that has worked best for me is to make them start off from a stop (in a parking lot) without touching the gas pedal. Not only is this only one thing to think about (as opposed to throttle and clutch coordination), but they learn where and how quickly the clutch engages. Once they master that, move on to holding the RPM's at say 1500-2000 RPM while SLOWLY letting out the clutch. Only then do they graduate to the simultaneously feeding in the throttle while letting out on the clutch.
My reasoning behind all of the above is torque converters in AT transmissions just soak up too much power in small displacement, low hp engine applications. I sure wish semiautomatic/clutchless manuals would trickle down to more vehicles.
If you go this route, the method that has worked best for me is to make them start off from a stop (in a parking lot) without touching the gas pedal. Not only is this only one thing to think about (as opposed to throttle and clutch coordination), but they learn where and how quickly the clutch engages. Once they master that, move on to holding the RPM's at say 1500-2000 RPM while SLOWLY letting out the clutch. Only then do they graduate to the simultaneously feeding in the throttle while letting out on the clutch.
My reasoning behind all of the above is torque converters in AT transmissions just soak up too much power in small displacement, low hp engine applications. I sure wish semiautomatic/clutchless manuals would trickle down to more vehicles.
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: California
I can't comment on the Fit AT, but if it were my choice, I'd buy the MT and offer to teach the GF how to drive a manual transmission. You'll get brownie points if you can be a patient teacher, and she'll get a boost and will brag to her friends that she learned how to drive a stick (don't go there).
If you go this route, the method that has worked best for me is to make them start off from a stop (in a parking lot) without touching the gas pedal. Not only is this only one thing to think about (as opposed to throttle and clutch coordination), but they learn where and how quickly the clutch engages. Once they master that, move on to holding the RPM's at say 1500-2000 RPM while SLOWLY letting out the clutch. Only then do they graduate to the simultaneously feeding in the throttle while letting out on the clutch.
My reasoning behind all of the above is torque converters in AT transmissions just soak up too much power in small displacement, low hp engine applications. I sure wish semiautomatic/clutchless manuals would trickle down to more vehicles.
If you go this route, the method that has worked best for me is to make them start off from a stop (in a parking lot) without touching the gas pedal. Not only is this only one thing to think about (as opposed to throttle and clutch coordination), but they learn where and how quickly the clutch engages. Once they master that, move on to holding the RPM's at say 1500-2000 RPM while SLOWLY letting out the clutch. Only then do they graduate to the simultaneously feeding in the throttle while letting out on the clutch.
My reasoning behind all of the above is torque converters in AT transmissions just soak up too much power in small displacement, low hp engine applications. I sure wish semiautomatic/clutchless manuals would trickle down to more vehicles.
" and no one ever has. Once they discover that, their confidence soars, and the rest of the "shifting" lessons are relatively easy.
couldnt have said it better myself
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