Power Steering when I shut the car
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Your not super human, and unless you are under 21 you are not invincible
thought that was pretty funny...I am glad that you pay that much more attention when doing it
I am also glad that when people are speeding and racing that they are paying more attention usually as well
(WARNING- bad analogy alert) Drunk drivers often think they are driving safely.
I do indeed bet you are driving safer than many, many, many others...
but that isnt justification or a negation on anything. It just means well it "could be worse"
I would rather have automakers just make a MPG switch that would allow this to some degree, but that would probably never happen in any practical/efficient and/or legal way.
(in non-hybrid vehicles)
stay safe buddy
regardless of what you choose to do.
Last edited by Snap Fit; Jan 24, 2008 at 05:08 PM. Reason: Because I need the "edit" button in the afternoon as a quick pickmeup!
crazy idea, but it's pretty much wat the hybrids do so i suppose
if you know wat the hell you're doing and need that extra change
every week, i suppose it's cautiously ok(?).
i personally would not want my kids doing that just to save a few
bucks a month driving a car that was not designed for it. so
it's a bad idea.
if you know wat the hell you're doing and need that extra change
every week, i suppose it's cautiously ok(?).
i personally would not want my kids doing that just to save a few
bucks a month driving a car that was not designed for it. so
it's a bad idea.
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With an enging off, you get one or two really good stops. Let me tell you, it IS scary to have coasted down a hill with the engine off, stopped, coasted some more, stopped, then coasted again and you CAN'T STOP unless you jam your full weight on the brake pedal! But then, I can just restart the car before that happens and get full braking ability back.
It's like holding your breath and going underwater - you never know when you might need to take another breath!
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I just need to wear out the starter in the next two years so I get a new one under warranty. Then I'll go easy on the new starter.
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I agree with Lizard. If anything you are paying more attention while trying this technique, and I can GUARANTEE that someone Pulse and gliding is driving about 10x safer than ANYONE driving while talking on a cell phone or your average mom with 3 kids in an SUV (which is inherently less safe to begin with).
There are also thousands more of the latter.
If you are going to make a stink about something... do it with something common, not with something 0.1% of drivers may do.
There are also thousands more of the latter.
If you are going to make a stink about something... do it with something common, not with something 0.1% of drivers may do.
with the bottom... gee I wonder why its only 0.1%...
haahaaits more concern than stink...seriously though (you never know what they know...ya know?)
and why comment on something common, that so like five minutes ago
but I will anyway...there are lots of young and old drivers around the world that suck regardless of distractions. probably the highest of all the stats (suckage that is). So I dont want to hear about cell phones and or drunks anymore...
heeheeHey RichXKU -do you happen to know if they make a similar thing to the scangauge in more of a gauge shape...(like a dial/circle) I have not had much luck looking one up.
sorry if its off topic......heehee!
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Oh yeah, I also don't pulse and glide before the car is warmed up, which sucks, because there is this giant hill that I go down when I leave work. Oh well, there are about 3 lights on it and too much traffic anyway.
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Don't forget about Warm-up Pulse and glide though!
Warm up P&G: Exactly as stated. During warm up, your automobiles FE is at its absolute worst (open loop ops, high RR (rolling mechanical resistances) in colder temps). To attempt to alleviate some of the FE hit, you begin P&G’ing almost immediately but at lower and increasing speed ranges. P&G speed ranges are significantly reduced and stepped up as you arrive to higher speed arterials, state routes, and then Interstates and highways. Here is just one example as you are leaving your home via the subdivision or local street when conditions allow … A range example could include 0 - 15 mph, Fas to 10, 10 - 20 mph, Fas to 15, 15 - 30 mph, Fas to 20, 20 - 40 mph, Fas to 30, 30 - 50 mph, Fas to 40 … Again, this was just 1 example of what may be performed under a specialized local driving condition and temps until the automobile in question is up to full temperature. Pros include alleviating the warm up FE hit to far above what would normally be possible and help to maintain your overall FE even though you are in effect warming up the car.
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Congrats, you're shortening the life of your battery just to save a bit of gas.
It's also illegal. I hope you don't own anything because if you get into an accident while doing this, you won't have anything left to your name.
It's also illegal. I hope you don't own anything because if you get into an accident while doing this, you won't have anything left to your name.
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That's what your insurance is for.Batteries are supposed to be replaced every 3 years anyway.
sorry but i think this technique you're using is really ridiculous and dangerous. i hope nobody on here gets the idea to do the same thing after seeing your thread. safe driving involves being able to take action in unexpected situations, and rolling around in a vehicle that is shut off is not a good way to keep your options open.
I dont think Ive ever heard of something so stupid to save gas. Youre better off buying all those gimmicks off TV. At least they work in a safer manor.
How can this be more safe then someone talking on the phone? The brakes and PS arent fully functional when the car is off. Are you suppose to hole your reactions are fast enough to start the car just before a collision?
Most idiotic thread for 2008?
sorry but i think this technique you're using is really ridiculous and dangerous. i hope nobody on here gets the idea to do the same thing after seeing your thread. safe driving involves being able to take action in unexpected situations, and rolling around in a vehicle that is shut off is not a good way to keep your options open.
Its sounds very very dangerous to do with the freeway's/roads how they are. You need to be able to avoid situations not anly with your brake but with your gas aswell and i would hate to pound the gas and have 0 response from the engine in a emergency situation. Then you throw in the factor that the power steering sometime's will go out makes it ultra dangerous to do on the public street. Just my opinion.
Tyler
+1. I honestly had to read what he was doing about 5-6times just to make sure I was fully understanding.
I dont think Ive ever heard of something so stupid to save gas. Youre better off buying all those gimmicks off TV. At least they work in a safer manor.
How can this be more safe then someone talking on the phone? The brakes and PS arent fully functional when the car is off. Are you suppose to hole your reactions are fast enough to start the car just before a collision?
Most idiotic thread for 2008?
I dont think Ive ever heard of something so stupid to save gas. Youre better off buying all those gimmicks off TV. At least they work in a safer manor.
How can this be more safe then someone talking on the phone? The brakes and PS arent fully functional when the car is off. Are you suppose to hole your reactions are fast enough to start the car just before a collision?
Most idiotic thread for 2008?
Got my vote!
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I'll vote yes for most idiotic thread.
The next thing you know the government will intervene and force car companies to make it so you can't turn the key at all when the car is moving. That will add $100 to the price of every new car, just like so many other ridiculous things like that goddamn airbag off light that comes on if you put 5 lbs. of crap on the passenger seat.
If you are in to so many manual efforts in order to save gas, why not just buy a 5 speed instead of an auto?
The next thing you know the government will intervene and force car companies to make it so you can't turn the key at all when the car is moving. That will add $100 to the price of every new car, just like so many other ridiculous things like that goddamn airbag off light that comes on if you put 5 lbs. of crap on the passenger seat.
If you are in to so many manual efforts in order to save gas, why not just buy a 5 speed instead of an auto?
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And I'm sorry but if you honestly think that insurance exists to subsidize irresponsible behavior, then you're just one of the $%##s that makes it more expensive for the rest of us. Hell, I have experience pricing insurance from the corporate side and I can honestly tell you that no matter what, the insurance companies will ultimately make it back - but it'll cost you AND perfectly responsible individuals.
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I'll vote yes for most idiotic thread.
The next thing you know the government will intervene and force car companies to make it so you can't turn the key at all when the car is moving. That will add $100 to the price of every new car, just like so many other ridiculous things like that goddamn airbag off light that comes on if you put 5 lbs. of crap on the passenger seat.
If you are in to so many manual efforts in order to save gas, why not just buy a 5 speed instead of an auto?
The next thing you know the government will intervene and force car companies to make it so you can't turn the key at all when the car is moving. That will add $100 to the price of every new car, just like so many other ridiculous things like that goddamn airbag off light that comes on if you put 5 lbs. of crap on the passenger seat.
If you are in to so many manual efforts in order to save gas, why not just buy a 5 speed instead of an auto?
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I do live around deer, one jumped out at me and smashed my car a few months ago, and I wasn't using this technique. Also, I haven't been getting great mileage: my highest so far has been about 28 mpg, mostly highway, and my average is about 25 mpg, nearly all city. Anyway, there aren't many deer in the city; at least, I haven't seen any yet, just in the suburbs.
Of course I live in an area populated by living creatures; people live everywhere! And it's not about the money. I've found that putting in Sunoco 93 octane has given me the best mileage so far. Although I am considering the fact that Sunoco might just be better gas, and the octane may not have much to do with it.
Of course I live in an area populated by living creatures; people live everywhere! And it's not about the money. I've found that putting in Sunoco 93 octane has given me the best mileage so far. Although I am considering the fact that Sunoco might just be better gas, and the octane may not have much to do with it.
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+1. I honestly had to read what he was doing about 5-6times just to make sure I was fully understanding.
I dont think Ive ever heard of something so stupid to save gas. Youre better off buying all those gimmicks off TV. At least they work in a safer manor.
How can this be more safe then someone talking on the phone? The brakes and PS arent fully functional when the car is off. Are you suppose to hole your reactions are fast enough to start the car just before a collision?
Most idiotic thread for 2008?
I dont think Ive ever heard of something so stupid to save gas. Youre better off buying all those gimmicks off TV. At least they work in a safer manor.
How can this be more safe then someone talking on the phone? The brakes and PS arent fully functional when the car is off. Are you suppose to hole your reactions are fast enough to start the car just before a collision?
Most idiotic thread for 2008?
Except for the part described above and the first 10 minutes or so, my commute is through a heavily urban area. The road is relatively straight, but hilly. There are no animals crossing the road except people. Pedestrians are also relatively smart and only cross at crosswalks when they have a green light. Of course, some people do feel that they are allowed to park in the right lane as long as their blinkers are on, and that causes bottlenecks in the road when it happens. But generally speaking, I only shut the engine when I am coasting down a hill to a light that is red and will be red for a while after I stop at it, or one that is green but I know will be red by the time I get there.
On my commute this morning, I shut off the engine 17 times, equal to half the traffic lights. Since my last fill up, I have gone just over 100 miles and the needle just below the F on my gas gauge. Previously, 100 miles would have put the needle at about a third of the way down, so I can already see the savings will be significant.
As my original post stated, I rarely lose power steering. That is effectly a non-issue. My original question was WHY don't I lose power steering. As for braking, I am almost always coming to a complete stop anyway, so one use of my brake is all I need.
When I learned to drive, my instructor had a "dual control" car, meaning the passenger's side, where the instructor sat, had a brake pedal, so the instructor could brake the car himself. He was also very good at steering from the passenger's side. I asked him once, "Don't you need a gas pedal too?" His response was "I'll just use your gas" meaning he never had a situation where the student driver was going too slow and he needed to make the car speed up. Please give me an example of when I'd need to speed up in an emergency. Thanks!