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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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HKS Drop In Filter

I wanted to increase throttle response and airflow with a new intake system, unfortunate the only system that does that with a normal powerband is a chamber and that voids the warranty even if installed by tempe honda.
So im looking at an HKS drop in, throttle response stays the same, airflow is increased seemed reasonable, that or I wanted a spoon but someone dyno'd it and found it was worse than stock when run. I would really appreciate anyones two cents if they've gone through this.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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drop-ins are imho worthless mods other than for those that drive in dusty
conditions and need to clean (replace) their filters in shorter intervals.

increase in performance is probably 0.00001% felt on the buttdyno.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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They cannot void your entire warranty for an intake. They can choose not to warranty your engine or other systems if it can be shown that the modification you made caused the issue.

Therefore, if you install your intake, and then your tranny explodes, they have to replace it.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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They cannot void your entire warranty for an intake. They can choose not to warranty your engine or other systems if it can be shown that the modification you made caused the issue.

Therefore, if you install your intake, and then your tranny explodes, they have to replace it.

how sure are you,
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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They cannot void your entire warranty for an intake. They can choose not to warranty your engine or other systems if it can be shown that the modification you made caused the issue.

Therefore, if you install your intake, and then your tranny explodes, they have to replace it.

how sure are you, because im due for an oil change in about a month and i just put in a Fujita Cold Air. Im hoping i dont have to put the stock airbox back in because of the coolant line that i had to remove..
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Magnusson Moss Warranty Act

Look it up and you'll see how sure I am.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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how sure are you, because im due for an oil change in about a month and i just put in a Fujita Cold Air. Im hoping i dont have to put the stock airbox back in because of the coolant line that i had to remove..
Why not change the oil yourself? It's beyond easy (though not as easy as my 318ti) on the Fit.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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yeah you might as well change the oil yourself. The fit is ridiculously simple to change check out the https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...6k-beware.html
thread to see how easy it really is.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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K&N drop in filter > all


Unless you like buying $750 J's racing intake.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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K&N drop in filter > all


Unless you like buying $750 J's racing intake.
Even then...

OBD-II cars will "un-learn" your mods unless you have reflashed the car. Don't get me wrong, intakes are good, but paying that much for an intake makes you not very smart.

A cheap intake with a good filter is all you need. Tubing is tubing. Aluminum vs. plastic vs. stainless doesn't matter. Cold air (actually sourcing cold air) is best, but has risks (like hydrolocking). Short ram has better throttle response, but sucks in hot engine air.

Drop-ins are good, and K&N's flow well (at the cost of them not filtering well). Even with a drop in, you still have to contend with the twisted mess of a stock intake track designed for keeping thing quiet, rather than making the most power. Also, not the case with this car, but for cars with MAFs, you have to be careful with the K&N filter oil, as it can damage the MAF.

I run most of my cars with a head shielded short ram. Not as much performance as a true CAI, but I can drive in the rain and not worry.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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lol oil changes what?

I know they wont void the warranty for an intake, but I would probably have to have them install to make sure I don't mess the MAF up. And like I said every intake besides a chamber intake has a very high powerband, one I most likely will never hit in my AT, MAYBE MAYBE when paddle shifting.

I considered a drop in because they DO have an effect on every range of driving. But I'm not informed on which ones have an even balance of filtering and airflow. I know its not the stock airbox thats restrictive its the filter itself, hence my need for change. I live in an incredibly dusty state so a frequent replacement is expected but I would like to know which ones have worked for other fit drivers, rather than trial and error .

any reply is appreciated.
 
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Thanks for all the uhh feed back lol...well i thought that if i changed the oil it could void the waranty also because they could blame an engine malfunction for my choice of oil and such... iono im just worried because i purchased the extended waranty 7 year plan... paid tons extra
 
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Originally Posted by t3chn0rav3rb0y
Thanks for all the uhh feed back lol...well i thought that if i changed the oil it could void the waranty also because they could blame an engine malfunction for my choice of oil and such... iono im just worried because i purchased the extended waranty 7 year plan... paid tons extra

hate to say it man. depending on that CAI install. you might've already voided it.
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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well i could always take it out and put the stock one back in... lol
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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hate to say it man. depending on that CAI install. you might've already voided it.
Wrong. You can't void your entire warranty. See the act I listed above. Unless you stuck a catbox on the end of the pipe instead of the filter, it's hard to install a CAI so it causes total engine failure.

If you are concerned about your warranty and oil changes, keep the receipts for the oil and filter. It's obvious, once you crack open a motor, whether or not the oil changes were actually performed.

Don't fall into these dealer traps. Of course they don't want your modding your car, but they can't do a ton to stop you. Install good parts correctly and you should never have an issue. I used to take my old SRT-4 to the dealer, and that thing was modded to hell and back. I never had an issue with my local dealer, but I only went to them for things that a warranty should cover, and not things I caused.

You'd be surprised how well paper filters *can* flow. BMW paper filters typically flow better than the K&N drop in.
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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thanks gimp your making me feel a lot more confident...so if i change my own oil how can i keep it from voiding my waranty?
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Not changing your oil will void your warranty. There is no "keeping them from voiding". It's a non-issue. Dealers don't have to change your oil to keep you safe. How do you think JiffyLube gets away with it?

It is seriously one of the easiest things you can do.

Just keep a copy of your dated receipts for the oil and filter. If there is every a claim that your car was damaged for failure to do an oil change, you can present those as evidence.

In addition to that, a simple oil analysis will show approximately the last time the oil was changed if a visual inspection isn't enough.

Change your oil yourself. You are allowed to. There is nothing wrong with it, and your warranty will remain intact.

If you've never done it before, read up on how and find someone who's done it before to help you.
 
Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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Just keep a copy of your dated receipts for the oil and filter. If there is every a claim that your car was damaged for failure to do an oil change, you can present those as evidence.

In addition to that, a simple oil analysis will show approximately the last time the oil was changed if a visual inspection isn't enough.

Speaking of that, is it safe to assume that all past maintenence minder logs can be pulled up and viewed? When the oil life indicator gets below 0% it starts keeping track of the negative mileage traveled after the fact - wondering if this is an easy way for dealers to check if you really had the oil changed in the event of an engine problem.
 
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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hey how do you reset the oil percentage meter?
 
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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just like you reset the trip i think?
holding the button on the dash.

I just had a meeting with the service manager, he assured me many mods wont affect your warranty, they even sold SRI/CAI intakes in the parts section a few feet away. They will however void the location of your problem from the warranty if its been modified and is experiencing problems, or is in direct correlation.
And changing your oil is simple, costs much less, and gives you some satisfaction in owning your car. Just make sure you follow all details of changing your oil.
 



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