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Old May 17, 2008 | 03:17 AM
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better way to coast?

So you're slowing down for a red light/stop sign in your manual fit...


do you..

a)throw it in neutral

or

b)leave it in gear until you stop

?

which is better for mpg as well as longetivity of the tranny?
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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coasting in gear>coasting in neutral
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
coasting in gear>coasting in neutral
reasoning?
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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As recorded in other threads, the ScanGauge shows that the injectors are shut off when coasting in gear above 1500 rpm. When in neutral, the rpm drops to idle, and the injectors pump fuel to keep the engine from dying.

Coasting in gear FTW!

--Barry
 
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as i stated on HT, coasting in gear cuts fuel. so better mileage. coasting in neutral runs the car at IDLE. using fuel.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
as i stated on HT, coasting in gear cuts fuel. so better mileage. coasting in neutral runs the car at IDLE. using fuel.

Yes but there are other factors involved that favor neutral.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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FAS, do a rolling stop and pop the clutch to keep going.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pb and h
FAS, do a rolling stop and pop the clutch to keep going.
Like THAT won't wear the crap out of your clutch...
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Does the main shaft in the manual tranny have any lubrication issues if you coast in nuetral?
I know some trannys do not like coasting with the clutch in.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by storm88000
Yes but there are other factors involved that favor neutral.
any more info on this?
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ricohman
Does the main shaft in the manual tranny have any lubrication issues if you coast in nuetral?
I know some trannys do not like coasting with the clutch in.
Are you suggesting that when we coast in N, that we hold the clutch pedal down?

I just shift to Neutral then clutch out.

Originally Posted by solbrothers
any more info on this?
Engine wear is the big factor, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Old May 17, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bdrake
As recorded in other threads, the ScanGauge shows that the injectors are shut off when coasting in gear above 1500 rpm. When in neutral, the rpm drops to idle, and the injectors pump fuel to keep the engine from dying.

Coasting in gear FTW!

--Barry
How do you coast but keep the RPM's above 1500?
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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dont drive 10 MPH in 5th gear LOL
Originally Posted by cavie187
How do you coast but keep the RPM's above 1500?
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Coasting in gear is also known as DFCO (Deceleraion Fuel Cut-Off), it's a feature of the engine management, so it was consciously designed by the manufacturer to work this way. And the reasoning makes sense, why use fuel when you have the car's momentum to keep you going?

You can also use it when going down hills, just like engine braking, really.

We have a real fuel efficiency guru on our forum, he's done a good writeup about this, if you want to check it out:

Using DFCO to increase your MPG - Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site

mods, if this is not cool please feel free to remove this post, but I'm sure everyone likes to know a new trick to help save fuel/money
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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coast in gear not only to save fuel, but you still have immediate control
to manuver your car in case you need to.

i typically h&t down to 3rd, but at times down to 2nd approaching a
stop when i need slightly more braking power. i just under blip on
purpose for those instances.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Sorry, I just re-read the OP's topic, and realized that i misunderstood the topic for some reason. -Ooops.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cojaro
Are you suggesting that when we coast in N, that we hold the clutch pedal down?

I just shift to Neutral then clutch out.



Engine wear is the big factor, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

That pretty much sums it up. Also for the transmission too.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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The poll isn't really valid since it depends what's "up ahead". If you are planning to come to a stop then leave it in gear, using DFCO. If you expect to re-accelerate then neutral preserves momentum. Whichever keeps you from using either pedal the most.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Like THAT won't wear the crap out of your clutch...
Many hypermilers have been doing that for thousands of miles with no problems. If you are smooth, it's no more wear than starting off from a stop.
 
Old May 17, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Does the AT fit also shut off the fuel when coasting in gear?
When can I go to find out what all the acroynms are FAS, P&G?
 



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