Us Fit Is A Gas Guzzler!
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From: Ontario, Canada
39 mpg = 32.5 mpUSg = 7.2 L / 100km
50 mpg = 41.6 mpUSg = 5.6 L / 100km
However, looking at other cars in this class the Canadian ratings tend to be slightly more optimistic than the American ones by around 3 - 4mpg on the highway rating (pretty much the same on the city). So you're back to the same figures already announced in the US.
50 mpg = 41.6 mpUSg = 5.6 L / 100km
However, looking at other cars in this class the Canadian ratings tend to be slightly more optimistic than the American ones by around 3 - 4mpg on the highway rating (pretty much the same on the city). So you're back to the same figures already announced in the US.
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Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Toronto Canada
Ok I am getting confused now
I'm big on fuel economy, I have a 92 Civic hb with a JDM B20 motor from an Orthia and a GSR LSD tranny, and I average 42 MPG with the 2L.
Is it so hard to do better with a 1.5L?
I'm big on fuel economy, I have a 92 Civic hb with a JDM B20 motor from an Orthia and a GSR LSD tranny, and I average 42 MPG with the 2L.
Is it so hard to do better with a 1.5L?
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 17
From: Glendale, AZ
There are 5 reasons why the American Fit gets less MPG than the European / Canada version.
1. Weight.
2. Bigger motor.
3. Imperial gallon is larger than a U.S. gallon.
4. U.S. fuel blends produce less emissions, but also less MPG.
5. U.S. emissions requirements.
It is not a big Honda conspiracy to screw the U.S.
1. Weight.
2. Bigger motor.
3. Imperial gallon is larger than a U.S. gallon.
4. U.S. fuel blends produce less emissions, but also less MPG.
5. U.S. emissions requirements.
It is not a big Honda conspiracy to screw the U.S.
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Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 30
From: Canada
Originally Posted by hondafitguy
The 2008 model will be all new for Japan. The US version should be a carry over of the 2007. I think they are doing this to keep down retooling cost for the NA version.
Do you know where I can have a look at the new Japanese version of the Fit due out in 2008? I'm curious and I know that a new version is upcoming but I couldn't seem to find anything on the web. Perhaps you've had better luck. Thanks.
Peace --- Metaxadude
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Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Missouri, USA
check out www.vtec.net I think there are some pics of the 2008 model on that site. The US will have our 2007 model as a carry over for 2008 and the 2009 model will be all new and possible it will be only sold in our market as a hybrid version.
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Joined: May 2006
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From: San Diego, CA USA
The 1.5L version of the fit engine is the same world wide. The HP and TQ rating are the same. Honda made changes to the transmission gearing. Note that the USDM Fit goes 0-60 in 8.6s or something while the EDM and JDM Fits do this in 11.xx seconds. Look at the gear ratio specs for each manual car. Personally I would prefer the slower, more efficient gearing, even a 6th gear for the ultimate in highway cruising. Honda's marketing division, and past experience has shown that they sell more cars in North America based on stupid stats that only 0.1% of the population even utilize, like 0-60 times, but I have a feelingthat is going to change in the next few years.
To summarize, it is the gearing that is different, not the engine, although we only have the 1.5l VTEC available in the US, not the 1.3 or the iDSI, which is unfortunate.
To summarize, it is the gearing that is different, not the engine, although we only have the 1.5l VTEC available in the US, not the 1.3 or the iDSI, which is unfortunate.
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Joined: May 2006
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From: Magnolia, Texas, USA
My other vehicle is a Ford Diesel truck and I've watched the actual calculated fuel mileage go down on each new one I've bought over the years.
The reason...........EPA regs have brought the mileage down from 20+ to the mid to high teens.
If you can find someone to take a look at the fuel & timing maps in the Fit's computer and compare them with the maps from other countries I think you will find that they are quite different.
The EPA costs us a lot of money when it comes to buying fuel for our cars. The next time you fill up and get mad at the cost send the EPA a letter and ask them to cut back from dozens & dozens of formulations to 5 or 6 to help us out at the pump.
For those of you that believe in Global Warming:
I heard a report the other day that said our air was now so much cleaner that it was contributing to Global Warming by letting in to much radiation & light.
The reason...........EPA regs have brought the mileage down from 20+ to the mid to high teens.
If you can find someone to take a look at the fuel & timing maps in the Fit's computer and compare them with the maps from other countries I think you will find that they are quite different.
The EPA costs us a lot of money when it comes to buying fuel for our cars. The next time you fill up and get mad at the cost send the EPA a letter and ask them to cut back from dozens & dozens of formulations to 5 or 6 to help us out at the pump.
For those of you that believe in Global Warming:
I heard a report the other day that said our air was now so much cleaner that it was contributing to Global Warming by letting in to much radiation & light.
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Joined: May 2006
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From: virginia
Originally Posted by bsgump
The 1996 Honda Civic HX CVT got 34 city/38 highway.
The 1996 5 speed got 35 city/43 highway, AND THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO!
Not to mention that the Honda Fit gets in US MPG about 35 city/ 50 highway over seas. If you calculate the weight differential between the us model and over seas the difference is only 300 pounds. Which would lessen the mpg to about 3 less. SO THE US MODEL SHOULD BE GETTING ABOUT 32 CITY/ 47 HIGHWAY, BUT WITH THE NEW ADVANCEMENT IN THE HONDA ENGINE THE MPG WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER!!!!! LIKE 33 -35 CITY / 47 - 50 HIGHWAY!!!!! SO it's no wonder people are pissed off that the US MODEL IS ONLY GETTING 33/38!!!! ARE YOU WORRIED THAT THE HIGH MPG WILL TAKE AWAY SALES FROM ITS MONEY MAKING HIGHBRIDS AND CIVICS??? SURE HONDA WILL ATTRACT SOME YOUNG BUYERS TO BE LOYAL TO HONDA, BUT THEY MADE THE MISTAKE OF DOWN GRADING THE AMERICAN MODEL. MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO HONDA ARE DEFECTING TO BE LOYAL TO OTHER BRANDS SINCE HONDA GAVE THE AMERICANS A GAS GUZZLER!!!!!!!
The 1996 5 speed got 35 city/43 highway, AND THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO!
Not to mention that the Honda Fit gets in US MPG about 35 city/ 50 highway over seas. If you calculate the weight differential between the us model and over seas the difference is only 300 pounds. Which would lessen the mpg to about 3 less. SO THE US MODEL SHOULD BE GETTING ABOUT 32 CITY/ 47 HIGHWAY, BUT WITH THE NEW ADVANCEMENT IN THE HONDA ENGINE THE MPG WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER!!!!! LIKE 33 -35 CITY / 47 - 50 HIGHWAY!!!!! SO it's no wonder people are pissed off that the US MODEL IS ONLY GETTING 33/38!!!! ARE YOU WORRIED THAT THE HIGH MPG WILL TAKE AWAY SALES FROM ITS MONEY MAKING HIGHBRIDS AND CIVICS??? SURE HONDA WILL ATTRACT SOME YOUNG BUYERS TO BE LOYAL TO HONDA, BUT THEY MADE THE MISTAKE OF DOWN GRADING THE AMERICAN MODEL. MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO HONDA ARE DEFECTING TO BE LOYAL TO OTHER BRANDS SINCE HONDA GAVE THE AMERICANS A GAS GUZZLER!!!!!!!
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Joined: Aug 2006
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From: nyc
Originally Posted by BeFit
I agree, the Fit sucks on mpg......my wife is getting mid 20's. This car is a pig......we should have gotten a Yaris instead.
my 1995 honda civic that was on its last breath got the same mpgs i am getting with the fit. i am not happy.
Yaris owners are complaining too. . .
For me the Fit gets great gas mileage.
This month so far I have averaged 38.2 mpg overall with one tank at 44+ MPG.
Mine is a Fit Sport m/t.
Mileage is affected a lot by:
I wouldn't dump the Fit for a Yaris. There are lots of Yaris owners complaining about poor gas mileage too. Your situation might not yield good results on a Yaris either.
And there is the possibility that some Fits did not have the engine CPU idle-training done properly or at all.
This month so far I have averaged 38.2 mpg overall with one tank at 44+ MPG.
Mine is a Fit Sport m/t.
Mileage is affected a lot by:
- how you drive
- tire inflation
- type of gas (ethanol blend or regular)
- terrain
- city/highway mix
I wouldn't dump the Fit for a Yaris. There are lots of Yaris owners complaining about poor gas mileage too. Your situation might not yield good results on a Yaris either.
And there is the possibility that some Fits did not have the engine CPU idle-training done properly or at all.
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Joined: Aug 2006
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From: nj
the fit i have get 35 city/41highway i do a lot of highway 70 a day and 30 city. if i stay at 70 MPH it great. if i do 75 to 85 it like 34 highway it never the same too. my SUV was $125.00 a week in gas now it 38 a week very happy with my fit and happy to be on this site too.
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Joined: Jun 2006
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From: nj
Originally Posted by Jimmy101
My fit gets 18mpg in the city, and 22 on the highway.
and on long road trips I get 26.
(a/t sport) with the a/c on.
and on long road trips I get 26.
(a/t sport) with the a/c on.
I beat the hell out of the car and never drop below 30. When I baby it and do mostly highway I can squeeze out 42+.
It does seem to be a pattern than autos are getting worse mileage than the mts. But 18?!?
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From: nj
Originally Posted by gamemaster
the fit i have get 35 city/41highway i do a lot of highway 70 a day and 30 city. if i stay at 70 MPH it great. if i do 75 to 85 it like 34 highway it never the same too. my SUV was $125.00 a week in gas now it 38 a week very happy with my fit and happy to be on this site too.