New Hyundai Rally car
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From: Richmond, VA USA
New Hyundai Rally car
yowza! looks pretty good! i still think the fit is superior because of its super funkyness and versatility, but this thing is pretty righteous looking!
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/accent_sr.asp
also, check out this godawful thing!!! BLECH!
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/caliber_srt4.asp
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/accent_sr.asp
also, check out this godawful thing!!! BLECH!
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/caliber_srt4.asp
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From: NOVA
I didn't realize GM was selling so many Malibu MaXXXXXXXXXX's that Dodge had to go and copy it. Maybe by the time I get back to the U.S. the "domestic" car industry will be devoid of GM, Chrysler, and Ford. Actually, it pretty much already is, since they produce mainly SUV's and trucks.
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From: The Burbs of PHILLY
With the way Ford is losing money, they may not even exist in 3 years.
It's ashame that the US don't get Euro version Fords like the Focus ST. It has a better body style than the domestic version. Is anyone at Ford realize how hot this car is in the UK?
It's ashame that the US don't get Euro version Fords like the Focus ST. It has a better body style than the domestic version. Is anyone at Ford realize how hot this car is in the UK?
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From: USA
We at Fit Freak believe in free speech. As long as there are no illegal activities taking place, pornography or personal attacks, we do not restrict our users in anyway on what they can say.
To be fair in "dougiepants"'s defense (depending on his age group), the expression "gay" does not necessarily mean "homosexual". Similar to how some people describe something “cool” to be “sick”.
To be fair in "dougiepants"'s defense (depending on his age group), the expression "gay" does not necessarily mean "homosexual". Similar to how some people describe something “cool” to be “sick”.
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From: guelph, canada
"As long as there are no illegal activities taking place, pornography or personal attacks, "
listen, i'm pretty new around here, but to pressume that saying "gay" in reference to something being bad or unwanted is a direct assault on the homosexual community and if you don't think that then you're either ignoring it's significance or just plain naive.
when one is making a statement about something that they don't like, they use a term that they find fitting. something that denotes distaste or disgust. when one uses a word in this manner that is the representation of a group of people regardless of the intentions behind the statement, that person is stating that that group is also disgusting and distasteful. so calling something gay to identify that something as bad means that you think the gay community is bad.
so, in light of the policies of conduct within the forum, i would assume that all parties not partake in maligning any particular demographic in describing anything that they do not like.
listen, i'm pretty new around here, but to pressume that saying "gay" in reference to something being bad or unwanted is a direct assault on the homosexual community and if you don't think that then you're either ignoring it's significance or just plain naive.
when one is making a statement about something that they don't like, they use a term that they find fitting. something that denotes distaste or disgust. when one uses a word in this manner that is the representation of a group of people regardless of the intentions behind the statement, that person is stating that that group is also disgusting and distasteful. so calling something gay to identify that something as bad means that you think the gay community is bad.
so, in light of the policies of conduct within the forum, i would assume that all parties not partake in maligning any particular demographic in describing anything that they do not like.
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From: New York, USA
C'mon guys...let's lighten up a bit here. I think some of you are reading a little too much into the "gay" comment.
There are lots of words thrown around on these forums that although not in good taste, are not meant to degrade a particular group of people.
For example, if you see a crappy body kit or some kind of mod done to a car that appears shoddy, you might say it looks "ghetto." Is that to be interpreted that the car is only good enough for someone who lives in a low income or crime ridden neighborhood??????? NO! It's just a term...that quite frankly adds a little spice to the conversation. :-)
As long as everyone is respectful to each other and not throwing out insults directly to individuals, let's not take wording so literally.
As a wise man once said to me..."Lower your standards and have a good time!"
There are lots of words thrown around on these forums that although not in good taste, are not meant to degrade a particular group of people.
For example, if you see a crappy body kit or some kind of mod done to a car that appears shoddy, you might say it looks "ghetto." Is that to be interpreted that the car is only good enough for someone who lives in a low income or crime ridden neighborhood??????? NO! It's just a term...that quite frankly adds a little spice to the conversation. :-)
As long as everyone is respectful to each other and not throwing out insults directly to individuals, let's not take wording so literally.
As a wise man once said to me..."Lower your standards and have a good time!"
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From: Sydney, Australia
From Wikipedia:
Pejorative usage
When used with a derisive attitude (e.g. "that film was so gay"), the term gay is purely pejorative and can be deeply offensive. The derogatory implication is that the object (or person) in question is inferior, worthless, effeminate, or stupid. This usage has its origins in the 1980s, when homosexuality had already become mainstream but was still taboo. Beginning in the 1990s and especially in the 2000s this usage is common among young and/or uneducated people, who may or may not link the term to gay people.
Pejorative usage
When used with a derisive attitude (e.g. "that film was so gay"), the term gay is purely pejorative and can be deeply offensive. The derogatory implication is that the object (or person) in question is inferior, worthless, effeminate, or stupid. This usage has its origins in the 1980s, when homosexuality had already become mainstream but was still taboo. Beginning in the 1990s and especially in the 2000s this usage is common among young and/or uneducated people, who may or may not link the term to gay people.
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From: Plainwell Michigan
Originally Posted by FaceYogurt
To be fair in "dougiepants"'s defense (depending on his age group), the expression "gay" does not necessarily mean "homosexual". Similar to how some people describe something “cool” to be “sick”.
NO DEFENSE - using Gay as a non-derogatory term is no different than these same young people saying the "N" word is OK as long as it ends with the spelling "AZ"
BS Face Yogurt- your tolerance of such behavior brings to question your true nature.
Yet another good forum goes biggot...
Last edited by Jonniedee; Feb 10, 2006 at 08:24 AM.
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From: USA
Originally Posted by Jonniedee
NO DEFENSE - using Gay as a non-derogatory term is no different than these same young people saying the "N" word is OK as long as it ends with the spelling "AZ"
BS Face Yogurt- your tolerance of such behavior brings to question your true nature.
Yet another good forum goes biggot...
BS Face Yogurt- your tolerance of such behavior brings to question your true nature.
Yet another good forum goes biggot...
If you think this forum is biggoted, find another forum. If you don't like free speech, move to China.
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From: USA
ok guys, everyone take a deep breath and calm down.
Please realize that FitFreak comprise of people from all over the world with an age range from 15 year olds to seniors. There will be cultural as well as generation clashes. I remember when this forum first started, there were some heated words exchanged because of someone in the USA misunderstanding someone from the Philippines for saying “get a room or take it to the track”.
I PMed the following to Jonniedee, but it may help the situation if I copy it here as well:
Here is a comment another admin sent me:
In any case, I’ll look to see if I can filter out the word “Gay” or other potential offending words in the forum configuration for current and future postings.
I hope this helps the situation.
Lets get back to the topic at hand: “New Hyundai Rally car”.
Please realize that FitFreak comprise of people from all over the world with an age range from 15 year olds to seniors. There will be cultural as well as generation clashes. I remember when this forum first started, there were some heated words exchanged because of someone in the USA misunderstanding someone from the Philippines for saying “get a room or take it to the track”.
I PMed the following to Jonniedee, but it may help the situation if I copy it here as well:
“I will PM the user who used that term because it is personally offending another one of our members.
Since I do deal with a lot of kids just FYI: In the USA, from Junior High school up to and including the end of college years, for the past few years, kids have been using the term "that’s gay" when they want to describe something that they think is tasteless or they disagree on.
One good example I see in school. If a kid walks up to another kid and shoves him into the lockers as a joke, another kid may say "stop being gay". I see that the user who used this same term on the forums is himself in college and after reviewing all his posts, his use of terms is consistent with his age group. I do not think he indented any reference to the gay community.
I also do not believe the word "gay" is a bad word compared to some of the example words you have given.
Before I responded, I checked with my co-worker who happens to be a homosexual male in his late 30's. He did not take the posting to be offensive.
But once again, it *IS* affecting you personally, so I will take care of it. I just wanted to clarify the situation so that there are no ill feelings between the users due to a misunderstanding in language use.
Please feel free to write me back if you think I should take different measures other than a PM warning to the user.”
Since I do deal with a lot of kids just FYI: In the USA, from Junior High school up to and including the end of college years, for the past few years, kids have been using the term "that’s gay" when they want to describe something that they think is tasteless or they disagree on.
One good example I see in school. If a kid walks up to another kid and shoves him into the lockers as a joke, another kid may say "stop being gay". I see that the user who used this same term on the forums is himself in college and after reviewing all his posts, his use of terms is consistent with his age group. I do not think he indented any reference to the gay community.
I also do not believe the word "gay" is a bad word compared to some of the example words you have given.
Before I responded, I checked with my co-worker who happens to be a homosexual male in his late 30's. He did not take the posting to be offensive.
But once again, it *IS* affecting you personally, so I will take care of it. I just wanted to clarify the situation so that there are no ill feelings between the users due to a misunderstanding in language use.
Please feel free to write me back if you think I should take different measures other than a PM warning to the user.”
“Have I missed something but I have gay friends that use the word to describe something "un cool".”
In any case, I’ll look to see if I can filter out the word “Gay” or other potential offending words in the forum configuration for current and future postings.
I hope this helps the situation.
Lets get back to the topic at hand: “New Hyundai Rally car”.
Last edited by FaceYogurt; Feb 10, 2006 at 10:56 AM.
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From: Danville/Tahoe, CA
Originally Posted by ekek888
what does***mean? ive seen also**** and ***** and *******. can u give all the meanings and also all possible meanings so all my post will be politically correct.
Ditto, I had no clue about any of this - I am getting quite a social education here!
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