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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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that car isnt even real just like your s2k and m3 isnt real. its a cartoon car from gt4 the video game lol and whats amuse? clown? hey mav you have a clown exhaust, prolly sound funny too. lol
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fitforlifester
that car isnt even real just like your s2k and m3 isnt real. its a cartoon car from gt4 the video game lol and whats amuse? clown? hey mav you have a clown exhaust, prolly sound funny too. lol

LOL Now that is funny.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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...my poor little son, that car is laughing at you.
Not your son, not poor, not little, and no, the car isn't laughing at anyone. That makes you 0 for 4.


I don't know if you aware of who Amuse is or not but they are one of the most elite premier tuners for the S2000. Believe me the owner of that car is very lucky and probably very happy
I know exactly who Amuse is. Ugly is ugly.

A mere name hasn't prevented BMW from releasing an entire line of ugliness either.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Before you start making fun of that S2000 and sound like an ignorant dumbass, learn who Amuse is.

Amuse is an elite tuner, who specializes in titaninum exhaust systems and ECU's for the Supra, S2000 and 350Z among some other high end JDM sports cars. They were the first who developed an aftermarket ECU for the S2000 which is quite an accomplishment itself. I run their exhaust system and header on my S2000 and I can tell you that the quality is unbelievable.

The Amuse S2000 GT1 was developed to be the wolrd's fastest time attack S2000. Amuse coupled the amazing F20C engine with an HKS GT3240 Turbo and JUN internals, raising the overall engine capacity to 2259cc while decreasing the compression ratio to 8.8:1. Power output is somewhere around 550PS and to put the power on the ground, a BNR34 GTR rear end replaces the stock S2000 rear end. The widebody is developed for function, not form. Every single piece has an aerodynamic function.

Amuse has made this kit available to its customers but if you want the real thing, you have to ship your S2000 to them to have them fit the custom GT1 exhaust.

So don't cry, it laughs at your ignorance.
You too. Ugly is ugly, and the only ignorance on display here is your belief that you can determine my intelligence through ability to quote statistics from some random aftermarket car.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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The new Mitsubishi i, only available in Japan. I wonder if Mitsu has any plans to bring it to the US?
TALK ABOUT UGLY.....DID ANYBODY WATCH FAMILY MATTERS BACK IN THE DAY...IT LOOKS LIKE STEVE EARKLE'S OLD CAR HAHHAHA
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman
I know exactly who Amuse is. Ugly is ugly.

A mere name hasn't prevented BMW from releasing an entire line of ugliness either.
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You too. Ugly is ugly, and the only ignorance on display here is your belief that you can determine my intelligence through ability to quote statistics from some random aftermarket car.
You don't know shit, like some of the other idiots on this forum. If you did, you would know that Amuse's focus is function not form.

And with regards to BMW... you call it ugly, I call it modern automobile design. If ugly is a bad thing, their revenue numbers surely hasn't reflected it. If ugly is undesirable, then why has other car companies jumped onto the BMW design bandwagon? Even the new 07 Toyota Camry is a rip of BMW's design.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mav
You don't know shit, like some of the other idiots on this forum.
Like I was saying, the only ignorance here is your resorting to insult, piled on top of using taste in cars as some kind of barometer of intelligence. What kind of a joke is that?


If you did, you would know that Amuse's focus is function not form.
Yeah, great, we got that. We're talking about how it looks, not how fast it is.


And with regards to BMW... you call it ugly, I call it modern automobile design. If ugly is a bad thing, their revenue numbers surely hasn't reflected it. If ugly is undesirable, then why has other car companies jumped onto the BMW design bandwagon? Even the new 07 Toyota Camry is a rip of BMW's design.
The new Camry is disgusting. It looks more like a retardation of a stretched Mazda 3 than a BMW.

Still, ugly is ugly, regardless of who is copying it or who is buying it. New BMW cars will always sell well, not because people find them attractive, but because people need to buy the latest BMW to show their neighbors that they have money.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman
Like I was saying, the only ignorance here is your resorting to insult, piled on top of using taste in cars as some kind of barometer of intelligence. What kind of a joke is that?
Hey I call it as I see it. I still think you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by watermelonman
Yeah, great, we got that. We're talking about how it looks, not how fast it is.
Looks is subjective, I was simply pointing out some of the real facts. Ugly is not a fact, ugly is your opinion. I happen to love the way it looks. Most S2000 owners back my opinion as well.

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Still, ugly is ugly, regardless of who is copying it or who is buying it. New BMW cars will always sell well, not because people find them attractive, but because people need to buy the latest BMW to show their neighbors that they have money.
More of the typical blind hatred due to jealously speak. Why can't people buy an expensive car, not because they are showing off to the Jones', not because of status, not because of compensating for something lacking, not because they are trying to impress others, not because they are trying to get girls, but because they simply want to? They like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche or Ferrari and can afford one. You can't so boohoo on you but others can. Get an education, get a better job, make more money. Do something, anything, just don't criticize others because you're a jealous hater.
 

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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Getting back to the true point of this thred.
That is another of the cool city cars that are over in Japan.
the SMART car is a MBZ..just FYI and pretty cool car at that.
If you have ever drivin in Europe or Japan(I have) then you can see why there is a need for small nimble cars.
I think they kick ass for what they are.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman

Still, ugly is ugly, regardless of who is copying it or who is buying it. New BMW cars will always sell well, not because people find them attractive, but because people need to buy the latest BMW to show their neighbors that they have money.

The word "ugly" is a subjective point-of-view. Your point-of-view, which means just about dick on here. So instead of getting all riled up and arguing about something you think is ugly lets just accept it for the facts.

Fact being, it is a purpose built race car aside from form. People who are truly passionate about race cars think it looks good based on the simple fact that they know the design is based on function. And that is what is beautiful to them (me). You think it is ugly because you are obviously a face value shallow person who can't see the forrest past the trees.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Hey I call it as I see it. I still think you're an idiot.
Well, that really speaks volumes about you.


Looks is subjective, I was simply pointing out some of the real facts. Ugly is not a fact, ugly is your opinion. I happen to love the way it looks. Most S2000 owners back my opinion as well.
Right, ugly is not a fact. Mis-fit, poorly color-matched, and exorbitant are facts.


More of the typical blind hatred due to jealously speak. Why can't people buy an expensive car, not because they are showing off to the Jones', not because of status, not because of compensating for something lacking, not because they are trying to impress others, not because they are trying to get girls, but because they simply want to? They like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche or Ferrari and can afford one. You can't so boohoo on you but others can. Get an education, get a better job, make more money. Do something, anything, just don't criticize others because you're a jealous hater.
I'm not a jealous hater; I think the cars are ugly based on their appearance and nothing else. Many people do buy a new BMW to show off money.

Those are facts. Feel free to argue with them until you are blue in the face.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony@NewTypeGarage.com
The word "ugly" is a subjective point-of-view. Your point-of-view, which means just about dick on here. So instead of getting all riled up and arguing about something you think is ugly lets just accept it for the facts.
Don't look now, but other people said it is ugly too.


Fact being, it is a purpose built race car aside from form. People who are truly passionate about race cars think it looks good based on the simple fact that they know the design is based on function. And that is what is beautiful to them (me).
No. Fact is, it is not a purpose built race car but rather a highly modified street car. Modified to the point that it is useless on the street. If you're going to build a race car, why not start off with a better platform? Don't get me wrong, I love the S2000, but it's hardly a race car.


You think it is ugly because you are obviously a face value shallow person who can't see the forrest past the trees.
You are simply wrong and there is no better way to say it.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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That s2k is ugly, doesn't matter how functional the ugliness is. Its just an opinion, not sure why everyone is arguing over it.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman
Many people do buy a new BMW to show off money.
How is this fact? If fact, then prove it.

Originally Posted by watermelonman
No. Fact is, it is not a purpose built race car but rather a highly modified street car. Modified to the point that it is useless on the street.
Your lack of knowledge is simply shocking and downright embarrassing. Perhaps you didn't read or lack the reading comprehension to do so correctly, so I'll repeat...

The Amuse S2000 GT1 is not meant to be a daily driven car, but a dedicated track car. You can't drive it to work, take it to the grocery store, can't go out on a date in it. Amuse built it as a RACE CAR, not a street car.
Of course it is useless on the street, its NOT meant to be a street car.

Here is what the Amuse S2000 GT1's sole purpose for existence...



Similar to the following...

BMW E46 M3 GTR


Nissan 350Z


Take away the sponsor decals, they are the similar, built with one purpose in mind.

Originally Posted by watermelonman
If you're going to build a race car, why not start off with a better platform? Don't get me wrong, I love the S2000, but it's hardly a race car.
Wow. Research x-frame, then come back and try that argument again.

The S2000 has dominated its autox class for years since its introduction.

More recently, the ASM S2000 recorded the fastest time for an Front Engine, Rear Wheel Drive, Naturally Aspirated Car at 58.0 seconds in the Tsukuba Lap Battle.



The S2000 was created with racing in its DNA.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony@NewTypeGarage.com
The word "ugly" is a subjective point-of-view.

People who are truly passionate ... think it looks good based on the simple fact that they know the design is based on function. And that is what is beautiful to them (me).
So function=beauty. Glad we got that out of the way.

Guess we won't find you oggling the boothbabes with narrow waists and hips and silicone-plugged mammories, then? Oh, wait...

Good to meet someone else who finds that there's nothing more beautiful than a corpse that's been in the ground for 3 weeks - nature working it's beautiful, elegant, incredibly efficient cycle of renewal.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Like the "Amuse" you can't drive this car to work either
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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How is this fact? If fact, then prove it.
My neighbor bought a BMW primarily as a status symbol and cheerfully admits it. Next.

Are you really so out of touch with reality as to fail to realize that people purchase certain objects as symbols of status?


Your lack of knowledge is simply shocking and downright embarrassing. Perhaps you didn't read or lack the reading comprehension to do so correctly, so I'll repeat...
I imagine you're resorting to the childish banter because you just don't have a better response. At least on some level you have to understand that a street car modified for racing and a purpose-built race car are not the same thing.


Of course it is useless on the street, its NOT meant to be a street car.

Here is what the Amuse S2000 GT1's sole purpose for existence...
Yes, racing. That's where purpose-built race cars will readily best these modified street cars. Sorry, I just don't see the point of modifying a street car to the point where you can't drive it on the street. You're better off both in terms of money spent and potential performance if you start off with a platform that is not made for the street.


Wow. Research x-frame, then come back and try that argument again.
Oh I know all about the S2000 frame. It's still not a race car.


The S2000 has dominated its autox class for years since its introduction.
Yes, it has dominated within its class. A class that does not include race cars.


The S2000 was created with racing in its DNA.
Great marketing phrase. Still not a race car.
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman
My neighbor bought a BMW primarily as a status symbol and cheerfully admits it. Next.

Are you really so out of touch with reality as to fail to realize that people purchase certain objects as symbols of status?
Surely people buy objects as status symbols but on the other hand there are some others that buy for personal pleasure not to show off their status or impress anyone. Having a Honda and BMW in my garage and a Mini in my driveway doesn't impress any of my neighbors in a neighborhood filled with Mercedes, BMW, Audi, several Porsche's, a few Ferrari's, a couple of Lambo's and one BMW M5. I'm an optimist and I hope America isn't THAT shallow. Are you so out of touch with reality that you cannot acknowledge this?

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Sorry, I just don't see the point of modifying a street car to the point where you can't drive it on the street. You're better off both in terms of money spent and potential performance if you start off with a platform that is not made for the street.
Obviously you still don't get it that the [b]Amuse S2000 GT1 IS NOT BUILT FOR THE STREET[b/].

Originally Posted by watermelonman
Oh I know all about the S2000 frame. It's still not a race car.

Yes, it has dominated within its class. A class that does not include race cars.

Great marketing phrase. Still not a race car.
I'm not claiming that the S2000 is a race car, however I'm disputing your opinion that the S2000 is not a great racing platform because it is. The S2000 excels best in autox and on the track. I know, I have autoxed and tracked my S2000. Do you own an S2000? If so, have you ever autoxed or tracked it?

If you still don't think the S2000 is a great racing platform, then explain how the ASM achieved the fastest time for FE RWD NA car in the Tsukuba Lap Battle. How did the AJ Racing S2000 win the Limited FR Class Super Street Time Attack? How did Amuse, J's Racing, Spoon, C-West build race cars using the S2000 platform? Please explain this...
 
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mav
You going to nail me for a mis-spelling/mis-wording while typing at 6 in the morning? Give me a break.



The owner compensating for something, huh? That is the typical response from the typical jealous little boy. Try harder to write something intelligent next time.



The only amusing thing here is your obvious lack of knowledge. The Amuse S2000 GT1 is not meant to be a daily driven car, but a dedicated track car. You can't drive it to work, take it to the grocery store, can't go out on a date in it. Amuse built it as a RACE CAR, not a street car.



If you were a diehard race fan as you claim then surely you can appreciate a car like this. Regarding the screws on the rear panels, you may want to do some research on why is that before you ignorantly criticize. The S2000's rear panels are part of the frame structure, meaning the rear fenders cannot be removed. The widebody kit had to be screwed on because there simply isn't any other way to do it. Again, This is a race car, not a street car and Amuse built it for one sole purpose... be the fastest time attack S2000.



More money than brains? Would you say the same for a Ferrari Enzo or Porsche Carrera GT? Sounds more like blinded jealous hatred to me.
Ignorant of somethings, maybe. But definitely not a dumbass. You say you call them as you see them, but what can you really see through the internet? With the same digitally induced blindness, I (and I know I am going to get censored for this) see you as a typically status-conscious asian punk. You spend all your parent's money on your toys, because you think that makes you better than everyone else. You also attempt to bolster your own self-esteem by putting everyone else you deem to be inferior down, while you think they must be jealous of you and all your toys. I have lived in asia for almost seven years, and have seen it. The Chinese are the worst of all, and are basically hated by all the other asians in the region. We see you for what you are. Get over yourself, grow up.
 
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All pointless insulting aside:

Originally Posted by watermelonman
At least on some level you have to understand that a street car modified for racing and a purpose-built race car are not the same thing.


You're wrong. BTCC, ETCC, Speed GT, JGTC/SuperGT GT300 class, just to name a few, all run cars that are modified street cars. None of those cars are street-legal and all are considered purpose-built race cars, irrespective of the fact that they ALL started out as standard production cars purchased through regular dealer networks. Also, no one can deny that any of the series named above are considered professional racing series' with large international fanbases. If you really want to get picky, you could even consider JGTC GT500 class cars as modified street cars because per the rules, the basic frame -- mainly the driver's cage -- from the production car must be used, though the rest of the car can be fully fabricated. That's cutting a fine line though. Still, JGTC GT500's are considered the fastest GT cars in the world, even faster than DTM rides, though DTM cars are true completely fabricated race cars that happen to look like a street car from the outside.



Originally Posted by watermelonman
Yes, racing. That's where purpose-built race cars will readily best these modified street cars.


There are MANY modified/tuned street cars that can match/better their racing counterparts, it's just a question of what classes we're compairing here. Amuse S2000 vs. Le Mans LMP1 or LMP2 class? Umm no, no match. Amuse S2000 vs. JGTC GT500 class? Pretty similar. Amuse S2000 vs. JGTC GT 300 or BTCC/ETCC car? Definitely a winner. Replace "Amuse S2000" w/ Mine's R34 or Top Secret R35 GT-R, or any number of similar tuned cars, and the formula still works.



Originally Posted by watermelonman
Sorry, I just don't see the point of modifying a street car to the point where you can't drive it on the street.


Simple, depends what you want to do with it. If you solely want to track it, and many people fall into this group, then there you go. Amuse built their's for Time Attack. What's not to understand?
 

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