Overall I like the Fit/Jazz. However the 109hp doesn't look to good on first impression and I heard that it takes off slow. I also heard it's bumpy.

 

I came from a 280 horsepower WRX....and i'm freaking really impressed with this car, in stick or auto. I've driven both with 5 fullsize males in the car, and there are NO ISSUES with acceleration.
Granted, 109 HP isn't going to get you to 60 or down the strip faster than many cars, but if you are interested in track racing or autocrossing, i think the Fit has a lot of potential because of its rigid chassis and great suspension setup. Do some research on the Spoon Fit and you can learn about how unimportant horsepower numbers are in a properly set up track car.

Tre

 

Oh yeah, i forgot to mention the "bumpy" comment.
For me, the suspension is perfect. It's responsive and it handles great, and its not jarring or uncomfortable ever. Compared to other cars in its price range and class, in my opinion it handles better and rides just as well on bumpy roads.
Tre

 

Read these articles (they're pretty much the same) if you're shopping in this price range:

Car and Driver
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...a-yaris-s.html

Automobile Mag
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ol_small_cars/

 

Of course it would not be a good drag racer, but should be a decent H stock car in SCCA autox. The base Mini is one of the top HS cars and its only 116hp.

 

I think there is a video out there where Spoon President Tatsuru Ichishima explains why the Fit is so good as a "potential" race car. But when asked how much it was to make the Spoon Fit as good as it was, Ichishima kind of conveyed that it was not worth what he spent.

 

not here in america lol

 

Faster in the slalom than a Z06.

 

i don't think it was the slalom. C&D said it was faster than the Z06 in the lane change test, which (im guessing) is a shorter slalom. I don't know why C&D don't just use a slalom for their tests, whould be easier for us to compare what was said in a different mag.

 

No, it's not a shorter slalom. It's a lane change. They use it because Car And Driver's focus is on real world performance and cars. That test better represents something that could happen in the real world on the street.

As far as the Fit as a racecar, it needs a tremendous amount more power. The Spoon car was basically a rolling chicane. I know many people that were on track with it.

 

fit is a good performing car for what it is, a b segment wagon that's easy on gas.

it's not good for anything performance related in the overall sense. will it out handle a f150? yes. will it out accelerate a toyota prius? yes. but so what? in the grand scheme of things, fit is not a fast car, any crown vic taxi cab will run circles around it.

and there is no potential. it's the wrong wheel drive, no power, and the brakes as big as a bitesize waffle.

if you are after performance, you are looking at the wrong car. in any type of racing, fit is going to be among the worst.

be real. the fit is a good car for what it is, plenty of room, easy on the gas, very verstile, affordable, enough power to get from point a to point b.

but a race car? let's not kid ourselves.

 

In general I agree with you, but I think i read an article a few months ago from a big car tuner mag, like Sport Compact Car or something in which the spoon fit beat a 450 HP turbo 350Z on a track by 3 seconds. Granted it depends a lot on the course configuration and the fact that the spoon fit is probably way more modded than any of ours will ever be and a few other factors, but i think to say straight up that there is no potential is a bit of a quick bite. I think it would be safer to say there is potential but most of us will never own or see impressive fits on a track, especially one with a lot of straight road on it. That's not to say we can't make our fits handle well and be fun to drive anyways

Tre

 

There have been many cars in automotive history that started out as lightweight economy cars and became successful racers with proper development. Look at the Mini and the Cortina...
As Colin Chapman used to say, "to go faster, add lightness"
Spoon Fit is down on HP from our stock USDM Fit but #550 lighter. The Fit may be best suited for autocross and endurance racing. In sports car racing, everything is grouped by class for comparable performance. We all know it is not a WRX/Evo and so does SCCA.

 

Well said.
Tre

 

SCCA HS is a great place for it

 

I'll be doing that this coming Sunday!!!

No mods of any kind, just add air pressure and have fun!!

I'm curious about how the AT is going to be - depending on the size of the course I may be doing either "S" or "S-manual"

 

Good luck against the Mini's. I'm going to autox the Fit when I get mine just to see how it compares.

 

I need to interject here. I know you have a WRX and you probably think it is the be all and end all of cars. Well I had one for just over a year and was impressed with its overall speed. However, the it handeled like a pig. It was so sloppy and had an incredible amount of body roll. I also used to autocross a modified Prelude. The Fit is more fun to drive than the WRX and I would take it autocrossing in a heartbeat. I actually want to take it autocrossing. I never cared to autocross the WRX. Just didnt seem fun.

 

Fit - not great for acceleration, but good for going around the corners.

 

So in order for a fit to be useful at all you have to be modest. Nothing to make it heavier than it already is for example... no body kits?