the hell happened to this thread?

 

I asked the dealership parts dept to compare the parts numbers for front struts and rear shocks and they are indeed different between 2010 and 2012 sport mt. The springs are the same though.

I am still trying to figure out if my 2012 has some issues or all 2012s are so much softer and have much more roll.

 

interesting. the swifts match the stock dampers on the '12 pretty well. im interested now how the swifts feel on 09-11 dampers... hummmm...

12's are definitely soft in stock form (sport MT).

 

That is indeed very interesting. I felt that the suspension on my '10 was a bit stiff for stock when I got it, but I liked it. They probably softened the dampers up a bit for the more comfortable "refresh" with the sound deadening and all that. I'd be interested to see some data on the differences.

 

Are the welds at the ends of the anti roll bar intact( full circumference ), or broken? Or forgotten?

They are visible from the front edge of the rear wheel well. The base has a clearance hole with nothing in it. The sport should have a full weld on the bar that sticks thought the hole enough to support the weld with tolerances.

 

After reading all of this thread it appears to me that the difference in tires and shocks on the 2012 Sport models is the primary cause of the less than sporting feel in comparison to the earlier models..

 

i think im going to get bils next season...even if they aren't adjustable dampers.

hope koni makes a set for GE's before that though...

 

They do ---> https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-interest.html

I was set on the Bilsteins, but now I'm holding out for the Koni's. You can get the Koni's with Swift coilover springs, and any rates you want. Although the Bilsteins might be a better choice for me since I won't be tracking the car that often (tops 2-3 times a yr).

 

thanks, yah, i saw that thread a while back and not much progress since.

the other thing about koni's is they are notorious for leaks (quality control issues).

 

Ken the Koni GE8's are done... the GD3's are still in R&D.


hmmmm, so you say... I do like the Bilsteins as well. Can't decide.

 

cool thanks for the info.

on the koni's, is one able to make any adjustments for the front through the little service hole? i dont think you can fit that koni dial adapter thingie unless you take the cowl off..which would suck just to make an adjustment.

given that, might be just better off getting the fixed damper bils....

 

Ah HA! Very interesting. I guess when my shocks start wearing out in ... like ... 7 years or whatever, I'll have to remember to come back here and remind myself that if I want a slight stiffening I can spec 2011 shocks instead of 2012

That is very useful info. Also because, I had been wondering about Swift springs BUT I really don't want to lower the car. (In my experience losing ground clearance is something you regret in the winter months, or drive up to VT for some swimming or skiing or something, and I just can't imagine paying extra $ to get less of it ... not on a car that's already only like 6 inches of the ground or something ...)

So maybe 2011 shocks would be the ticket!

 

I had Swift Springs and loved everything about them except for the relatively small amount of drop.... I have coilovers now and the ground clearance back at stock height... I also have an aftermarket one piece front bumper to replace the stock one that was constantly being torn from the front fenders even when on stock suspension.

 

on the GD's you have plenty of clearance on the front to access the piston shaft for damper adjustment... on the GE's you only get that service hole unless one removes the cowl. that kinda sucks.

does HKS still offer coilovers with damper adjustment on the bottom? or any other manufacturer?

 

The Buddy Club N+ set I have adjust damping on the bottom.. A couple of clicks make a big difference. At the 3rd click on front and 4 or 5 on the rear the ride and handling works well for me.

 

I've owned both an 09 and a 12 and honestly didn't notice the difference. The spring part numbers are the same but the shock absorber unit and assembly are different though!

 

Don't forget the difference in tires also.

 

that's awesome! is that the same for the GE model?

 

Here's a link. ---Buddy club OFFICIAL USA WEB SITE--- Bean Garage is where I got mine during a group buy... I would think there isn't any difference in the adjustments between the models for the GDs and GEs.

 

thanks texas. wish they had more details on application and individual product info at the buddy site.